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copper patch bullet with 35 grains (meas- 
ure) King’s semi-smokeless. ‘This result- 
ed in the powder burning on in a hard 
ne just forward of chamber. Shooting 
wild. 
(b.) Same, only with black rifle powder. 
Same result. ; 
(c.) One hundre’ and ten grain bullet, 
as in No. 5, with any amount of King’s 
semi-smokeless greater than 20 grains. 
Result as in a and b. Also same result with 
a paper patch bullet of 117 grains. The 
poor results of these loads I laid to the 
high initial pressure caused by the heavy 
bullet taking the quick twist, as the 86 
grain bullets, both copper patch and lead, 
dc not cause the King’s semi to burn on. 
This powder is fine in a slower twist rifle, 
as it is clean and its velocity high. I have 
not tried a paper patch with the high pres- 
sure powder, but have seen a I12 grain 
conical slug, pure lead, shot from a .32-40 
16-inch twist, using 55 grains Hazard F. G. 
powder. This was loaded from muzzle, 
with a round linen patch. After slug was 
pushed through the barrel and the patch 
taken off, it barely showed the marks of the 
rifling. The velocity must have been nearz- 
ly 2,000 f. s., yet it was accurate and did 
not lead or strip. So I see no reason why 
a paper patch would not hold in a .30 or 
.25 caliber smokeless. 
Oye cD: 

THE .22 CARTRIDGES. 
Seattle, Wash. 
Editor RECREATION:—In June RECREA- 
TION H. D. Barnes makes inquiries con- 
cerning point-blank range of .22 short 
cartridges. The editor replies that this 
cartridge will do good work at 100 yards, 
and that 25 yards would be about right for 
point-blank shooting. I think the word 
‘yards’ must be a misprint and that “feet” 
was meant. Stevens and other makers rec- 
ommend the .22 short as doing good work 
“up to 125 feet;’ beyond that manufac- 
turers make no claim for it. 
I use a 26-inch, ’97 model repeater, and 
can do monotonously good work with it 
and U. M. C. short, smokeless cartridges. 
The .22 long rifle cartridge has great range 
and power, reaching a fair-sized target over 
200 yards, but I have not been able to do 
as fine work with it at short ranges as 
with the .22 short smokeless. The .22 Win- 
chester R. F. cartridge is a superb little 
load for small game, but I think the cart- 
ridge better than the gun which was made 
for it. The Winchester, model ’90, is a nice 
shooting and effective arm, but it is too 
much of a “boy’s gun” in dimensions and 
appearance. If one could get a 26-inch bar- 
rel, half octagon, many would prefer it to 
any other .22., 
RECREATION. 
I regret exceedingly to miss the Mar- 
lin’s adv. from the best sportsman’s jour- 
nal extant. It pains me to think that the 
firm whose guns I have always considered 
above reproach should be so losing ground 
in public favor that they can no longer 
afford to stand side by side with other well- 
known firms. 
C. H. Stonebridge, in June RECREATION, 
has some interesting things to say about 
his experience with a .30-30. If he had 
told us what ammunition he used we 
should have much light on the subject. I 
use a .30-30, and find a great difference in 
effects of the Winchester round point, 
scit-nose ball and the U. M. C. flat point. 
Naturally the latter is the more destruc- 
tive, and I doubt if any game hit fairly 
with the flat-nose, soft-point bullet would 
get away from a hunter who knew his 
work. BoE. 

A KRAG-JORGENSON SHOT. 
In March RECREATION “‘.40-82” asks for 
a description of the Krag-Jorgenson and 
Mauser rifles and ammunition. Though 
both rifles are familiar to me, I hardly 
know how to describe them, but if the 
gentleman will give me his address I will 
‘mail him a cartridge of each. The guns 
are very similar and are both good shoot- 
ers. I saw a wonderful shot with one the 
other day. I was out with my camera 
and met 3 corporals with their Krags, out 
for a holiday. One offered to let me shoot 
his gun, and in looking around for some- 
thing to try it on, I saw a buzzard perched 
on the rocks of one of the cliffs through 
which the Yumuri river flows. I set the 
sights for 300 yards, but the bullet threw 
dust at what looked to be 6 inches below 
the mark. The corporal then took the 
gun and set the sights for 500 yards. His 
bullet bored a hole through the unfortu- 
nate bird. It is against the law to kill 
these birds here. They certainly are a 
blessing to this climate. If I had thought ~ 
there might be a fatal result I should not 
have set the example to the soldier b 
firing the first shot. | 
“RECREATION ’S Friend,’ in January 
number, wants to know something about 
the .22 Colt repeater. I should like to tell 
him some of the things this gun will do, 
but will not, as I am a friend of RECREA- 
TION, too. Before I went into the army I dis- 
posed of my Colt, but when I get back to 
the States I intend to get another, if thev 
have an ad. in RecrEATION. If not, I will 
get one that is advertised in this magazine. 
This is not pretty spite talk; it is’ simple 
business. If a firm does not advertise in 
the magazine for which I pay my money, 
the publisher cannot give me as much mag- 
azine for that money. Therefore, I support 
the firm that does pay the publisher to give 



