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that firm is on a par with their shot gun 

 ammunition, which is inferior to the Win- 

 chester and U. M. C. 



Last fall several of us used a case of 

 Peters, black powder cartridges at the 

 trap because we could get no others.. 

 We had 20 to 25 per cent, misfires; 

 whereas out of 4 cases of Winchester 

 shells, with the same guns, we did not 

 have one per cent of misfires. To my 

 mind this experience alone condemns 

 Peters shells, though there are many 

 other things to be said against them. 

 Small dealers, as a rule, recommend this 

 shell for the reason that their profits are 

 greater than from standard makes. A 

 Winchester gun and Winchester factory 

 loaded shells are, I believe, the best com- 

 bination a man can strike. 



I hope the readers of Recreation will 

 in turn take a fall out of the Peters Cart- 

 ridge Co. for their conduct toward you. 

 John J. Bower, L. A. S. No. 4639. 



REMINGTON SPORTING RIFLES. 



I note Mr. Nelson's praise of the Rem- 

 ington rifles, and I fully agree with him. 

 The Remington is a splendid weapon, and 

 I am sorry it does not receive more atten- 

 tion in Recreation. But Mr. Nelson 

 must remember that the Remington Arms 

 Co. has always made a specialty of mili- 

 tary rather than sporting rifles. How well 

 it has succeeded in its line is shown 

 by the fact that its Flying Lock Single 

 Shot Military Rifle has been more exten- 

 sively used by the armies of the world than 

 any other breech loader, about 2,000,000 

 having been sold. It was adopted by the 

 governments of South America, Central 

 America, Mexico, Spain and by almost all 

 the semi-savage tribes of Asia and Africa. 



The large caliber Remington-Lee maga- 

 zine rifle was the pioneer of box magazine 

 and multiple loading arms, and was 

 adopted by the navies of the United States 

 and Great Britain, and by the army and 

 navy of China and other countries. With 

 a few changes in detail, the Remington- 

 Lee, adapted to modern small bore cart- 

 ridges, is now the service arm of England 

 under the names Lee-Metford and Lee- 

 Speed. Its system has been copied, but 

 not equalled, in all the best military arms 

 of to-day — the Mannlicher, Mauser, Dal- 

 tean and others. The bolt action Rem- 

 ington tube magazine rifle was the best 

 and simplest of the Lebel, Murat and 

 Kropatschek type in use respectively by 

 the armies of France, Japan and Portugal. 

 All Remington sporting rifles except the 

 No. 3 (Hepburn) are fitted with the same 

 actions as their various army rifles. 



For any purpose to which modern small 

 bore arms are adapted, the Remington-Lee 

 is, in my opinion, the best of all. It can 



be had for No. 6 m. m., 7 m. m., 30 U. S. 

 A. and 7.65 m. m. cartridges in the mili- 

 tary model with 29 inch barrel, weighing 

 8^2 pounds; and in the sporting model for 

 all the above mentioned and in addition 

 the 30-30 cartridge, with 24-26 (standard) 

 or 28 inch barrel, weighing about 6^4 

 pounds. The lightest 30 rifle of any other 

 make with 26 inch barrel is the Blake, 

 which weighs 7 l A to 8 pounds. The 6 m. 

 m. Lee-Winchester weighs 7^> and the 30- 

 30 extra sight model '94 Winchester with 

 26 inch barrel weighs 7 pounds; so the 

 Remington-Lee is lighter than anv other 

 30 or 6 m. m rifle; quite an advantage on 

 a long tramp. Its military record is all 

 the recommendation as to strength, sim- 

 plicity, rapidity of fire and accuracy that 

 any arm needs. 



The No. 5 single shot high power rifle 

 has the same action as the flying lock 

 military and is inferior to no gun of its 

 class, though I prefer Winchester S. S. 

 Nos. 1^2, 2 and 4. All have the same ac- 

 tion as the No. 5, but are made only for 

 small or medium sized rim and central fire 

 cartridges. I do not see why they should 

 not be as popular as the Stevens; they are 

 without doubt as good as that arm. The 

 No. 3, or Hepburn, has been a leader for 

 long range target shooting until recently, 

 when the modern small bore took the 

 supremacy away from, such cartridges as 

 the 40-90, 44-77- 44~90, 45-100 and 45-120-550 

 for that purpose. 



Mr. Nelson says the Remington Arms 

 Co. neglects the aesthetic in the appear- 

 ance of their product. There I differ from 

 him, for I know of no more beautifully 

 shaped and better finished weapon than the 

 No. 5 Remington rifle. 



Jack Pattern, Jersey City, N. J. 



WHICH IS BEST? 

 Will you kindly inform me how the 

 38-72 Winchester Smokeless, model '95, 

 compares as a game gun, in killing power, 

 with the 30-40 or the Savage 303? 



Vindex, Pittsburg, Pa. 



I referred this question to the Winches- 

 ter Arms Company and append its reply: 



We are in receipt of your letter of the 

 14th concerning the relative killing powers 

 of the 30-40 and the 38-72 cartridges, used 

 in our model '95 rifle. We consider the 

 30-40 cartridge far superior to the 38-72. 

 At short range the shocking power of the 

 38-72 compares favorably with that of the 

 30 Government, owing to its having a 

 heavier bullet, but as the distance in- 

 creases its effectiveness diminishes, and 

 while it is an effective cartridge at the 

 ordinary ranges at which large game is 

 killed, we consider the 30-40 much su- 

 perior, say from 25 yards up. 



