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RECREATION. 



Will some readers tell me how the U. 

 M. C. 32-40-150 smokeless cartridge, with 

 a 150 grain, metal patched, hollow, soft 

 point bullet, compares with the 25-35 and 

 the 25-36-117 smokeless cartridges with 

 soft point bullets, in killing power, say on 

 deer and similar game? Is the first men- 

 tioned cartridge more accurate than the 

 other two? 



Why don't some of the manufacturers 

 make box magazine rifles for these cart- 

 ridges? When soft nosed cartridges are 

 passed through a tubular magazine they 

 come out unfit for accurate shooting, the 

 soft lead being jammed back all out of 

 shape. A box magazine rifle for these 

 cartridges should not weigh over y J /i 

 pounds. Let us hear from others on this 

 subject. 



Canadian, Dunkirk, Ont. 



I would say to Nimrod, Indian Head, 

 N. W. T., that my experience with differ- 

 ent length barrels has been large. Have 

 used 36, 32, 30 and am now using 28 inch 

 barrels. I never had a closer shooting 

 gun than my little 28 inch, Baker hammer- 

 less, weight 7 pounds. I would say to 

 A. R. Brown, Boston, Mass., that the 

 shooting qualities of the Batavia gun are 

 all right, as are the others he mentions; 

 but the safeties on them all are a delusion. 

 The Batavia is made by the Baker Gun 

 and Forging Co., at Batavia, N. Y. It is 

 cheaper than the Baker and has a safety 

 which, like those on many other guns, 

 may be jarred off. The Baker costs a 

 few dollars more, but is worth it because 

 it is both safe and smart. 



D. T. Tuthill, Orient Point, N. Y. 



In March Recreation T. F. Toby asks 

 for a good oil for his gun. In my hunting 

 days my favorite gun oil was made from 

 chicken fat. To make the oil, cut the fat 

 into small pieces after stripping off the 

 skin. Put fat with a little water in a por- 

 celain vessel and place on back of stove 

 where the water will simmer, but not boil. 

 When the water has evaporated and the 

 fat turned to oil, pour into a clean bottle 

 to cool. When cool decant the clear oil, 

 leaving the sediment in the bottom of bot- 

 tle. To the clear oil add a little kerosene 

 to prevent gumming. 



Seth Dickey, Mercersburg, Pa. 



The Savage Rifle Club has recently been 

 organized in Martin's Ferry, Ohio, the 

 name indicating the make of rifle used. 

 There were 10 charter members, with a 

 membership limit of 20. The following 

 officers have been elected: President, Dr. 

 F. S. Morrison; vice-president, Dr. J. G. 



Parr; secretary, Dr. A. W. Diven; treas- 

 urer, George Hipkins; captain, James 

 Ralston. A good range has been secured, 

 with targets and proper equipments. It is 

 the purpose of this club to have a weekly 

 shoot each Saturday; and an annual or 

 semi-annual tournament will be arranged. 



I will give A. R. Brown, Boston, Mass., 

 my experience with a Batavia Leader 

 hammerless. I have used one for some 

 time, and find it O. K. Mine has 30 inch 

 barrels and is choke bored. It .has been 

 shot thousands of times with all kinds of 

 smokeless powder, and is as tight as the 

 day I got it. For duck shooting one must 

 have a gun that will shoot close and hard, 

 and the Batavia gets there every time. It 

 shoots too close for quails. 



M. A. Kiger, Cates, Ind. 



Does the 25-20 cartridge outclass the 

 32 W. C. F. or the 22 long rifle in accur- 

 acy? Will someone using a '92 model, 

 Winchester 25-20 tell me of its killing 

 powers? Would the 25-20 be a good cart- 

 ridge for quail, squirrel and rabbit hunt- 

 ing? What is the best black powder for 

 reloading the 25-20? 



H. F. L., Washington, D. C. 



I am reloading 32 caliber S. & W. re- 

 volver cartridges and have a great deal 

 of trouble with the No. o U. M. C. prim- 

 ers. They do not go off unless hit by the 

 firing pin 5 or 6 times. What is the mat- 

 ter! E. L. Warren, 



St. Paul, Minn. 



Will some reader of Recreation kindly 

 advise me as to accuracy, steadiness and 

 good and bad features possessed by mod- 

 ern small bore, high power rifles like the 

 U. S. Navy and the 25-35 size? 



F. D. Clark, Prattsburgh, N. Y. 



Is the Savage 303 better than the Win- 

 chester 30-30? Have heard that the Sav- 

 age will not always work when you want 

 it to? L. G. S., Brooklvn, N. Y. 



Have you seen those beautiful gun 

 racks, made by E. W. Stiles, of polished 

 buffalo horns? They are useful, unique 

 and attractive additions to a sportsman's 

 den. For 5 subscriptions I will send you 

 one of these racks. 



I have added Lovell plates to my pre- 

 mium list. If you use plates, read my 

 premium offer and supply yourself by 

 sending me a club. 



