GUNS AND AMMUNITION. 



Anybody can keep on shooting all day, but it takes a gentleman to quit when he gets enough. 



CENSURE PETERS. 



Clarksville, N. Y. 

 Editor Recreation : 



From a careful perusal of your honor- 

 ably conducted department of Guns and 

 Ammunition, one can hardly find much to 

 add. Still, an even modest sportsman 

 sometimes likes to say a little. 



I exceedingly regret that the Peters peo- 

 ple take the stand they do. Surely if they 

 want only favorable comment, .that would 

 signify weakness on their part; and if they 

 accept the favorable comments, it is only 

 fair to have the weak points pointed out 

 to them by your subscribers. Instead of 

 offense, I should judge it would be a ben- 

 efit to them to know where to improve. 

 My experience has taught me that by being 

 criticised we gain strength, and surely few 

 things are perfect. Are not the Peters 

 people still striving to improve ? If so, 

 then why be offended at a criticism and 

 blame an innocent party? Mr. Shields 

 simply published the opinion of a subscrib- 

 er. He would extend the same courtesy 

 to Peters or to any other reader of 

 Recreation. I would not subscribe to 

 any periodical that would not treat sub- 

 scribers and advertisers alike. 



I have used Peters' ammunition with 

 good success ; still it can be criticised as 

 well as others. It is not perfect, while I 

 frankly admit it is good. I might say the 

 same of others. I trust this difficulty will 

 soon be adjusted. We all get hot at times, 

 and I should be only too glad to shake the 

 Peters people by the hand when they come 

 back. 



Have been interested in guns and ammu- 

 nition for 20 years. Have tried many guns 

 as well as different kinds of ammunition. 

 Have shot both American and English 

 guns of good grades, but have become 

 content with a Parker, of which make I 

 have had 3 within a year. 



I would say to the old rifle cranks, 

 "Never get in front of a gun until you see 

 it shot." I have a Winchester 30-30 take 

 down, with full Lyman sights, and until 

 you try one conscientiously you are un- 

 able to judge. I could win many a little 

 wager from the older sportsmen, on pene- 

 tration and distance, before they see the 

 gun shot. I killed 2 deer in 1899, and no 

 one would have asked, "Are they dead?" 

 Notwithstanding, the guide repeatedly 

 wished me to take his old rifle to be sure 

 we secured the game if I got a shot. My 

 most satisfactory arm out of a collection 

 of 5 is a Stevens 25,' also fitted with Ly- 

 man sights, which is with me on the road 



every day. For a small gun, it is a de- 

 light and a surprise. Having a horse that 

 does not mind the report, I have had some 

 great sport while riding over the country, 

 when I could not find the time to go out 

 with a gun otherwise. 



Fred. Sauerbrie, M. D. 



I am greatly surprised at the action of 

 the Peters Cartridge Company in with- 

 drawing their ad. from Recreation for a 

 trivial cause. I consider the Gun and Am- 

 munition a leading department in your 

 valuable magazine for the free use of your 

 readers and the benefit of brother sports- 

 men. Should you print only one side of a 

 question, I should cancel my subscription 

 at once. If I do not like a certain part of 

 a gun, or see room for improvement in a 

 powder, cartridge, etc., I should be al- 

 lowed to mention it. The Peters Cartridge 

 Company make a mistake, for there is no 

 better way of a company's finding the 

 faults of their goods and what the sports- 

 ment want, than right through these pages 

 of Recreation ; and the manufacturers 

 could better their goods accordingly. 



No advertiser should take offense when 

 something is mentioned as imperfect, but 

 should rather appreciate it and improve the 

 weak point. No manufacturer advances so 

 far that he can not improve his goods, and 

 there is no better way to find an imper- 

 fection in an article than by general use. 

 Hope I may soon see Peters' ad in Rec- 

 reation again. 



J. W. Fream, Harney, Md. 



I send you, under separate cover, one 

 of Peters' shells that was used by a mem- 

 ber of the Independent Gun Club. The 

 shell is enough in itself to disgust the lov- 

 er of good goods, for the gun was a Le- 

 fever and the primer is no good or the 

 shell would never miss fire. 



Jacob Yovwig, Phillipsburg, N. J. 



ANSWER. 



The cartridge was received at this of- 

 fice. The primer is deeply indented, show- 

 ing that the firing pin has struck k a hard 

 blow, and evidently the primer was defec- 

 tive. This, however, is not a serious 

 charge against the Peters Company, for 

 any factory that makes primers will occa- 

 sionally turn out one that is defective. — 

 Editor. 



Oakland, Cal. 

 Peters Carl ridge Co., 



Cincinnati, Ohio. 

 Dear Sirs: I think the attitude you 

 have taken with Recreation is doing you 



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