GUNS AND AMMUNITION. 



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TRY COLT'S. 

 Has anyone seen the Mauser and Luger 

 automatic pistols used together, so that a 

 comparison as to action, killing power, 

 penetration and range can be made? I 

 should also like to read in Recreation 

 some experiences as to the accuracy of the 

 .25-35 Winchester. I intend buying one 

 of the pistols, and wish to get the best. 



F. H. Scott, Philadelphia, Pa. 



ANSWER. 



I know of no one who has made such 

 tests as you mention of the Mauser and 

 Luger pistols, so can not answer your ques- 

 tion. I shall, however, be glad to print it 

 in Recreation, and it will no doubt call 

 out some replies. 



I have printed articles in Recreation re- 

 garding the accuracy and effectiveness of 

 the 25-35 Winchester. If you have a file 

 of the magazine you can look up these let- 

 ters. If not, I can supply you with back 

 numbers or bound volumes. 



I advise you to examine and test the Colt 

 automatic pistol before buying either of the 

 others. In my judgment it is a much bet- 

 ter weapon. It is much simpler in its 

 mechanism, it is neater and more compact 

 in form, and much more pleasing to the 

 eye. I placed one of these in the hands of 

 an army officer who is an expert in small 

 arms, and he made a strong report on it: 

 The fact that the Ordnance Board of the 

 United States Army has adopted this pistol 

 for use in the army, and that it has bought 

 and issued a large number of these weapons 

 to the troops, is a strong endorsement of it. 



Strangely enough, the Colt people do not 

 advertise in Recreation, but all the same 

 I believe they make the best automatic pis- 

 tol in the world. — Editor. 



KILLING POWER OF THE 30 CARBINE. 



In reply to H. W. Frost's inquiry regard- 

 ing the killing power of the Winchester 

 30-30 carbine, will say that I killed 2 deer 

 last fall with one. The first, a 4-pointer, 

 was hit in the neck between the spine and 

 the skin, at 150 yards. He went down 

 partly paralyzed, but soon jumped up and 

 ran 20 feet, when a bullet through the left 

 shoulder, cutting a large artery and com- 

 ing out behind the right foreleg, killed him. 

 The heart was not touched, yet the buck 

 expired after a few kicks. 



Another deer, a small spike, dropped like 

 a rock when hit, at 60 yards/ in the spine 

 above the shoulder. The bullet came out 

 under its left foreleg. 



The striking power and penetration of 

 the carbine equal that of the rifle except 

 perhaps at extreme long range. You can 

 not expect to put a grizzly to sleep by a 

 bullet in his hind leg with any rifle, 



Have met several men who claimed to 

 have killed deer by head shots at 100 and 

 150 yards with the 22 W. R. F. I do not 

 think this improbable, considering the won- 

 derful penetration and accuracy of the little 

 cartridge. 



Some portions of this State are verita- 

 ble pens of game and fish hogs which 

 thrive under inefficient wardens. The 

 laws are all right, but there are few who 

 enforce them to the letter. 



Edw. Pickersgill, San Francisco, Cal. 



SAVAGE SHOOTS LIGHT LOAD. 



Those who say the Savage 30-30 will not 

 shoot a light load accurately are mistaken. 

 I send a target to show the regularity with 

 which the Savage throws the Kephart bullet 

 with 10 grains of powder. To hold the 

 grooves the bullet must be 1-10 tin. Use 

 any primer that will fit the shell. 



I have used the same load in the 30-30 

 Winchester with equal accuracy ; also in 

 the 25-35 Winchester. Now I am using 10 

 grains of powder behind the 165 grain pin 

 lead bullet in the 32 special, which equals 

 the full load of black powder. I also use 

 Ballastite. 



I should like to see something from any 

 one who owns a 32 special Winchester. I 

 find it perfection for range, accuracy and 

 killing power. 



The light loads are excellent for rabbits r 

 squirrels and coyotes, while the factory load 

 will stop anything that lives in America. 



My neighbor, Frank Dupries, loads brass 

 shot gun shells with 3^2 drams of powder 

 and one ounce of No. 6 shot. He applies 

 60 pounds pressure to the powder and uses 

 •the common No. 2 primer. That load is 

 entirely satisfactory, both behind the trap 

 and after ducks. 



Milton Prichard, Vancouver, Wash. 



SAVAGE IS THE BEST. 



Anyone wishing a gun and not knowing 

 what caliber to get, can decide by reading 

 a few copies of Recreation, as the gun and 

 ammunition department gives good advice. 

 The .303 Savage is the best all around gun 

 made, and the 38-55 Winchester is a good 

 caliber ; but for hunting grizzlies and large 

 game in the North, I prefer the 45-70-405 

 smokeless Government soft point. I have 

 a 45-70 Remington, Model 74, that is a fine, 

 hard shooting gun. It has good steel in it, 

 as it was made before manufacturers knew 

 how to make cheap or bad guns. It is built 

 about like an old log wagon ; can not be 

 broken. Another man with a Savage might 

 shoot 3 times to my once, but I prefer one 

 well aimed shot to 6 wild ones. 



I should like to see the Savage Arms Co. 

 put out a 45-500 smokeless. I believe it 

 would be a great gun for big game. The 



