GUNS AND AMMUNITION. 



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3 inches in diameter at breech and 8 feet 

 long. It weighs 80 pounds and is in good 

 condition. I also have 50 or 60 other relics 

 in the gun line. If anybody can beat the 

 above let us hear from him through Rec- 

 reation. C. W. Hard, Medina, O. 



I saw an article in a cheap magazine by 

 a person whom you undoubtedly branded as 

 a hog. It said the reason Marlin did not 

 advertise in your magazine was because he 

 would not pay the double price for his ad 

 which you asked of him. Marlin probably 

 has no idea of the cost of advertising in a 

 first class magazine and being a cheap con- 

 cern advertises in magazines of a like class. 



All departments of your magazine appeal 

 to me; the hog department being exception- 

 ally good. 



James Wilson, Lyman, la. 



It will be noticed that the patch on 

 Peters bullets extends to the end of the 

 lead, the bullet being flat on the end, while 

 on Winchester bullets the lead extends 

 nearly 3-16 inch beyond the patch. 



My experience leads me to think the 

 Peters bullets do not mushroom so much 

 as the Winchester's, thus not having so 

 deadly an effect. 



I should be pleased to hear, through 

 Recreation, from any one who has noticed 

 this. 



Walter K. Atchison, Grayrocks, Wyo. 



What are the comparative values of the 

 following cartridges in regard to their ac- 

 curacy, trajectory, and killing power? 22 

 long rifle, rim fire ; 22 Winchester, rim fire ; 

 25 Stevens, rim fire ; 22 Winchester single 

 shot, center fire; 22-15-60 Stevens, center 

 fire, 25-20 center fire, and 25-21 Stevens, 

 rim fire? I should like to hear from read- 

 ers who have used the Stevens Ideal, No. 

 55, ladies' model. 



Charles Burns, Beverly, Mass. 



What is the largest number of No. 6 shot 

 a 16 gauge gun will put in a 40 inch circle 

 at 40 yards ? 



H. E. Campbell, West Windham, N. H. 



ANSWER. 



Depending on the amount of choke, a 16 

 gauge gun will put 60 to 70 per cent, of the 

 charge into a 30 inch circle at 40 yards. 

 Exceptionally good guns will do even bet- 

 ter. I have no records of shooting at a 40 

 inch circle. — Editor. 



I agree with J. B. Knapp in regard to the 

 killing power of black powder. I find I can 

 kill at greater range with black than with 

 smokeless powders. 



Will some one who has used high power 

 loads in a 32-20 rifle, tell me if the metal 



jackets injured the rifling? Are the hollow 

 point bullets effective on small game? 



W. B. Sweet, Ithaca, N. Y. 



Can you tell me the difference as regards 

 pattern, penetration and carrying power, of 

 the following shot gun bores : full cylinder, 

 modified cylinder, full choke, modified 

 choke and any other forms or varieties of 

 bore there may be? 



Forrester H. Scott, Philadelphia, Pa. 



Will the readers of Recreation please an- 

 swer. — Editor. 



We have reached an age of great variety 

 in arms and calibers, enough, it may seem, 

 to satisfy the most exacting, but let me put 

 in a plea for just 2 more. First, Harring- 

 ton & Richardson or a Forehand revolver 

 to use the 32 rim fire cartridge, both short 

 and long. Second, a model 1903 Savage to 

 use the 25 rim fire. 



G. W. McKay, Kelsey, Minn. 



In December Recreation H. R. von Som- 

 mel, of Pleasantville, N. Y., says a bullet 

 from a small caliber can be driven through 

 a 6 foot oak tree. I am somewhat of a 

 small bore rifle crank myself, but I think 

 Mr. von Sommel lacks experience, or the 

 oak up there is different wood from what 

 it is here. 



E. G. Pettel, Marietta, Ohio. 



I notice Mr. Peregrine condemns the 

 Savage, while admitting he never owned 

 one. I have used a Savage 3 years, and 

 consider it superior to the Winchester 30-30 

 and 30-40. Have killed a number of deer 

 with my gun, some at 600 yards, and never 

 had to fire a second shot. 



E. H. Ream, Vacaville, Cal. 



Which will give the greater penetration 

 at a given distance, a full choke or a cylin- 

 der bore? 



G. W. Nolan, Middletown, N. Y. 



ANSWER. 



Other things being equal, the full choke 

 has the advantage in penetration. — Editor. 



I should like to hear through Recreation 

 froiii someone who has used the Elterick 

 patent rifle bullet shell. Can they be used 

 in repeating shot guns? Will a repeating 

 shot gun last as long as a double barreled? 

 G. D. Earll, Great Barrington, Mass. 



All game is scarce here except ducks and 

 geese. These can not be reached on the 

 lakes by a shot gun. I should like to hear 

 the experience of brother hunters with 

 rifles for such game ; especially the 25-20. 

 Lew A. Rippey, Sturgis, Mich. 



