188 
and 1% No. 6 gave 842 feet. A 1o-bore 
with 44 drams and:14 ounces No. 6 gave 890 
feet. . 
The velocities with nitro powder are much 
higher, but the proportion remains nearly the 
same. . 
The same author also says: ‘‘With a first- 
class 12-bore it is possible to get patterns of 255 
in a 30-inch circle at 40 yards, and with the 
same charge a 10-bore will not often do better.”’ 
He considers a pattern of 275 an excellent one 
for a 1o-bore with its proper load. He adds, 
however, ‘‘When shooting large shot the 10- 
bores show a marked superiority over the 12- 
bore.”’ ‘The 1o-bore, fully choked and weighing 
at least 83 pounds, will make a pattern of 270 at 
40 yards, with shot running 270 to the ounce, 
the charge being 4 drams of powder and 13 
ounces of shot. The 1o-bore shows to greatest 
advantage when shooting shot ranging from 
No. 1 to No. 5 inclusive.—ED. ] 

_ Old-Fashioned But Loyal 
I trust the readers of RECREATION’s Gun 
and Ammunition Department will not mind 
an old subscriber and one who has had a Jitile 
experience (having commenced burning powder 
back yonder in the times when the old ’73 
model, .44 calibre Winchester first came into 
use—and a good one it is yet, smokeless powder 
and high velocity, notwithstanding) coming into 
their discussions. 
Now, I do not intend to find fault or make 
light of any one’s views or notions in regard 
to their favorite arm. We all have our pet 
theories and like to ride our hobbies. I do not 
wish to say one word that would have a ten- 
dency to defeat the purpose of the brother who 
wants to get his New Model .38 S. & W. 
Special, single action swingout, six pistol. 
But, on the other hand, will the brother agree 
to not advocate the retirement of my old 
favorite, viz.: the Colt’s .45 calibre as now 
manufactured ? | 
I wish to say that I fully agree with Walter 
Kenly, Cripple Creek, Colo. I know there never 
was, and I do not believe there ever will be, a 
better weapon made for offense and defence 
than the Colt’s .44 and .45 caliber pistols. 
I have one, a .45 caliber with 54-inch barrel 
for belt use, that I would not lay down for any 
thing I ever saw; for I know it will knock a 
mad bull down and keep him down, just as 
quick as it will a man. What odds if it is a 
little over weight, as some one has said, there 
is the added satisfaction of knowing it is there 
with the goods and will deliver them in a 
manner that leaves no room for argument. 
Speaking for myself, for a belt gun, give me 
RECREATION 
the Colt’s .45 with its heavy frame, plain 
sights, multitude of clicks, wide sweep of 
hammer and all. If I am ever called upon to 
use it in self-defence and fail to disable my 
antagonist with the first six shots and don’t 
happen to have an extra gun in my clothes, I’ll 
sure take to the brush—and that’s what you, 
my brother, with your modern .38 caliber 
Ss. a. s. 0. had better do under the same 
circumstances. 
Perhaps you will laugh when I say that at 
close quarters I can “fan” six shots out of a 
pistol quicker and with greater accuracy than 
can possibly be pulled out of a double action, 
but I know hundreds of the old-time Western 
men who will back my statement. 
To M. H. Cale I will say the Remington 
derringer is a powerful and accurate arm, 
although a little slow and awkward in raising 
the hammer. By extending the index finger 
along the barrel and using as if pointing at 
some object, the pistol can be fired with accu- 
racy without paying attention to the sights 
at all. I have one of them, and for a pocket 
pistol for self-defence I am well pleased with 
it, as it is light in weight and takes up but 
little room in the pocket. 
Coming to rifles, I have at the present writing 
three of them, and I like them all. They are 
a ’92 model .22 calibre Marlin; a ’93 model 
.22 calibre Winchester, and a ’92 model .25-20 
calibre Winchester. I do but little shooting 
now, a very little at small game. Still, I believe, 
were I to go after large game, I would pin my 
“faith to the old black powder rifles. I don’t 
want any of your light-weight rifles in mine, 
and none of your drilling machines that will 
send a lead pencil bullet through a deer and 
kill or cripple a man in the next county, while 
the poor animal runs away and hides in some 
thicket and dies a lingering death. To my 
mind there never was and never will be a 
better all-round big game rifle built than the 
’86 model .45-70 or .45-90 Winchester rifle. 
Of course it takes a man to tote one of these © 
rifles and do the best work with it that it is 
capable of doing. For deer alone, or small 
game of that kind, the .44-40 Winchester or 
Marlin is plenty large enough, and the .32-20 
suits me better. The main point is to know 
where you want to place your bullet to make a 
killing shot, and then when the time for action 
comes to put your bullet there. And most 
any old bullet will do the work, and it don’t 
need to have a metal jacket and be backed by 
smokeless powder, either. 
Another thing that surprises me is the 
_willingness of so many to purchase foreign- | 
made arms. There are no better shooting or 
finer looking arms, and none that will stand 
