226 RECREATION. 
should be invented and placed on the mar- 
ket that would fire a cartridge making no 
noise whatever, thus enabling a_ foot- 
pad to shoot down a man at night on 
a lonely street or road, without any possible 
danger of being caught in the act, I should 
be in favor of prohibiting the use of such 
weapon by law. 
Dynamite is one of the most impor- 
tant inventions of the 19th century, and has 
proved of great’ value to commerce in 
many ways; yet when a man uses it to fish 
with, we say he should be punished by 
law, and nearly all the States have laws 
prohibiting the use of dynamite in that way. 
I regard the man who would hunt game with 
an automatic gun. in the same light as I 
regard the man who fishes for trout or 
black bass with dynamite. Many thousands 
of the best sportsmen in this country agree 
with me in this—-En1Tor. 

LOADS FOR THE 32-40. 
Would say to S. B. that I have a 32-40, 
with nickel steel barrel. I think it is about 
as near an all around rifle as there is on 
the market. It is a matter of choice be- 
tween that and the 38-55 with nickel steel 
barrel. 
The velocity of the 32-40 is about 1,400 
feet a second at muzzle, with black powder; 
with high pressure smokeless, about 2,050 
feet. The 32-40 high pressure is a little 
more powerful than the 30-30, about the 
same as the Savage .303 and the 32 Win- 
chester special, and about 34 as powerful 
as the 30-40. It is as accurate as any cart- 
ridge, whether black or smokeless. The 
Savage rifle is made for the 32-40-165. The 
other 32-40s mentioned are practically out 
of use. 
I use Laflin & Rand’s Sharpshooter 
smokeless. Twelve grains by weight will 
give the same power as 40 grains black and 
costs about the same. This may be used 
with lead bullet. For high power load with 
metal cased bullet use 20 to 23 grains of 
the same powder, giving velocities from 
1,925 to 2,050 feet. For the miniature, I 
use the 99-grain sharp pointed bullet, of No. 
31,049 in Ideal Hand Book, and 5 or 6 
grains of any shot gun smokeless. This 
does not tear small game. Use short range 
shells with groove. For the medium load, 12 
grains, I use Ideal bullet No. 321,232. It 
will seat with regular 32-40 tool and has a 
groove for shell to crimp into. Make bul- 
lets I part tin to 16 or 18 parts lead. 
The butt stock is a matter of choice; I 
prefer the shot gun butt for a hunting rifle. 
Do not use wadding or any method of fill- 
ing the shell in the medium loads; leave 
the powder loose in the shell. Never ailow 
bullet to rest on smokeless powder in shell. 
If black powder is desired for miniature 
loads, 13 to 15 grains is correct, These 
loads are all accurate and cheap. Always 
use great care in cleaning any rifle after 
using smokeless powder with metal cased 
bullets. 
Ernest A. Dunn, Boston, Mass. 

DEFENDS THE PUMP GUN. 
(Printed verbatim.) 
I have been a subscriber to Recreation since 
Nov o1 and my subscription is paid up to 
NOV o$1 read all of the stories there in with 
much pleasure and in fact read a;1 there in 
there is many things that make me tired. now 
lam about 30 years old and have hunted Bob 
Whites more than half of that time in season 
and have used most oll kinds of guns, this fall 
I sold $40 00 I.C. Smth and bought a Win- 
chester pump gun. I have killed ‘‘203 Quails 
since NOV 1 6 to Jan 1/. I find on page 57 in 
Jan number of Recreation your crazy bill to pro- 
hibit the use of all magazine guns, If a man 
ever lerns to shoot a Winchesyer pump gun he 
cah never be satisfied with any thing else? It 
is more than foolish for a man to pay from 
$50e00 to $500 for a Parker I.C. Smith or any 
other make of gun when for $20 oo or 25 oo he 
can buy Winchester pump gun that will out last 
and out shoot any of all of them. 
Now as I have said my subscription is paid upto 
Noc 04 it would please me verry much to have 
mt money refunded taling out pay for what cop- 
pies I have recd , ?I will, not help even ever 
so little to support a magazine that is or is going 
to take steps to prohibit the use of the best 
cheapest and handist shooting gun on resord espe- 
cialy one that I prefer above all others you are 
verry strong in using your pet name of Gamf 
Hog and I in this letter am saying just what I 
think I am not-a game hog never sold a quail in 
my life am not taking offence at your game goh 
on my account. : 
Please print this letter and do as you say you 
do every body and give the Winchester people 
what they so justly deserve I am going to send 
them a coppynof this letter As you must klnow 
Mr. Shields I have nothing against you or Rec- 
reation only you are against the bestn gun in 
the world and a shoot that gun A Winchester 
Repeating Shot Gun fl. Plet me heare that you 
have taken a moer sensible view of this subjevt 
and burned all of the matter pretaining ti this 
crazy bill or please drop merfoomrom your list 
Yours Respt 
Clifford.S. Atkinson 
ANSWER. 
Here is my check for $1. It affords me 
great pleasure to drop your name from my 
subscription list. All such illiterate, un- 
washed, unkempt critters as your letter 
shows you to be may be safely counted as 
defenders of the pump and automatic guns. 
The educated, cultivated people are all op- 
posed to such weapons. The Winchester 
people will of course feel proud of you as 
a champion.—EpIror. 

THE ELTERICH SHELL. 
In your November issue G. D. Earll asks 
for a report from some one who has used 
the Elterich patent rifle shell. I can give 
him a little light on its possibilities. Two 
years ago, when on a vacation, I made an 
exhaustive test of one. It was one of the 
first made, and I used it solely in a repeating 
shot gun, so that Mr. Earll’s question as 
to whether it can be used in such a gun may 

