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How many pellets from a charge of i]4 

 ounces No. 8 shot should a 12 gauge cylin- 

 der bore gun put in a 30 inch circle at 30 

 yards? How many pellets should a full 

 choke gun of the same gauge put in the cir- 

 cle at 40 yards, using iy% ounces No. 6 

 shot? Trojan, Troy, N. Y. 



ANSWER. 



I have no data at hand relating to pat- 

 terns of cylinder bore guns at 30 yards. A 

 well made true cylinder barrel should place 

 about 40 per cent, of its charge in a 30 

 inch circle at 40 yards. Most so-called cyl- 

 inders are slightly choked. A choke bore 

 should put from 50 per cent, to 75 per cent, 

 of its charge — depending on amount of 

 choke, etc. — in the same circle. 



In answer to R. J. Boynton, as to Kings 

 semi-smokeless powder, would say: It 

 gives better penetration than E. C. smoke- 

 less; costs much less; makes more noise; 

 and its smoke is hardly noticeable. It gives 

 a poorer pattern and greater recoil. I 

 have used one can and am highly pleased 

 with it. I killed a pigeon on the wing, at 

 about 20 yards with 2 drams Kings and 7-8 

 ounce No. 12 shot. If any reader of Rec- 

 reation uses a muzzle loader, I would be 

 pleased to mail him a sample of a cartridge 

 1 use with mine. They are simple, handy 

 and easily made. 



Comet, Box 577, Newton, N. J. 



I have used a .40-72 Winchester, both 

 with plain lead and metal patched bullet 

 and found it a most powerful weapon. Out 

 of some 12 deer killed with it during several 

 seasons I recovered only one bullet. All 

 others passed through the animals and on 

 in their course. The one recovered was 

 fired at a range of 75 to 100 yards, went 

 through several twigs, struck the buck in 

 his right hind quarter and cut it up badly. 

 Then it traversed the entire length of body 

 and lodged in skin of neck just under the 

 left ear. This was a metal patch bullet. 

 Arthur James, Baltimore, Md. 



I have a queer cartridge the name of 

 which I hope some reader of Recreation 

 will be able to tell me. It is 3 7-8 inches 

 long and about .45 calibre. The case is of 

 brass, twisted to form a cylinder, and the 

 head is drawn brass with an enameled 

 flange. It is center-fire and the primer 

 about No. 2. The bullet is paper-patched 

 and has a copper cap on the point like an 

 express bullet. Will some one give a de- 

 scription of the Krag-Jorgensen and Mau- 

 ser rifles, and their ammunition? 



.40-82, Syracuse, N. Y. 



suits, but that is no longer made. Then I 

 tried E. C. but will try it no more. Was 

 obliged to use a rod to get the shells out 

 and could not put them in the chamber 

 again, and the balls dropped 18 inches in 

 100 yards more than when black or wood 

 powder was used. My .38 makes a good 

 all round gun. 



Buffalo Stubb, Orwell, O. 



The best rifle for the game mentioned by 

 J. Hauser, in October Recreation, is the 

 .25-21 Stevens Ideal, No. 44. It is accurate 

 up to 200 yards, and the shells can be re- 

 loaded at a cost of 25 cents a hundred, 

 either with the regular or with smaller 

 loads. I use this rifle for target practice 

 at 200 yards; also as an all-round gun. 

 Fitted with Lyman sights it gives perfect 

 satisfaction. 



W. H. Whitney, Spokane, Wash. 



I have noticed several articles in Recrea- 

 tion in reference to the Winchester repeat- 

 ing shotgun. I had one, a good hard-shoot- 

 ing gun, but unsatisfactory in that the shells 

 invariably stuck in entering the barrel. It 

 was annoying to have to stop and push the 

 shell in with my hand. Otherwise I like the 

 gun, and believe it will kill farther and of- 

 tener than any other shotgun. 



S. W. Siddall, Azusa, Cal. 



Tell C. M, Grover that he can reload the 

 .32-20 c. f. cartridge and get better results 

 than from factory loaded shells. I use Du- 

 pont f.f.g. rifle powder, and the Winchester 

 No. 1 primer. The Ideal reloading tool I 

 have found satisfactory. A friend tells me 

 •30-30 shells can be reloaded at a cost of 25 

 cents a hundred. Recreation is getting 

 better all the time. 



Thomas Trebilcock, Houghton, Mich. 



What nitro powder is best adapted to the 



38-40-255 Remington, the rifling being 1 



to 16? I used wood powder with good re- 



When you are shooting and would like 

 to experiment a little, cut one of your 

 shells in half just below the powder wads, 

 place both parts in the gun and fire. With 

 a light gun this is a dangerous experiment, 

 as the shot explodes, sometimes in the gun 

 and sometimes rods away. Will someone 

 tell me why the shot explodes. 



D. M. R., Syracuse, N. Y. 



I want to buy a double barrel breech 

 loading gun, for use at the trap and for 

 Christmas shooting matches on turkeys, 

 geese, etc. What is the best gun in the 

 market for such purposes? Please state 

 gauge, length of barrel, choke, etc. How 

 would the A grade Baker do? I mean the 

 one listed at $42.75. 



John J. Harris, Niagara Falls, N. Y. , 



In June Recreation O. A. F., Tioga, Pa., 

 asks information regarding the Winchester 

 repeating shotgun. I have used many guns, 

 but have yet to find one that will shoot har- 



