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NOTES. 



In the " Ideal Hand Book/' No. 9, there 

 is an article on " Patched Bullets in .30 

 Calibre Rifles," in which several writers 

 claim to have obtained entirely satisfactory 

 results from the use of paper patched lead 

 ts with full charges of smokeless pow- 

 der. 



I understand the metal jacket on the 

 bullets wears out the rilling in a compara- 

 tively short time, and the question arises: 

 Why have the factories jumped over the 

 well-tried paper patch for the metallic one? 

 Is it because it was thought that paper 

 would not stand the quick twist and high 

 velocity? And was it jumped over without 

 giving it a trial? I have been a close reader 

 of Recreation for 4 years, but this ques- 

 tion has not been brought up, so far as I 

 can remember. I should like to hear from 

 your many readers on this subject. 



A. Kennedy, Missoula, Mont. 



I have done some remarkable shooting 

 with my .30-30 Winchester. With a party 

 of friends on a quail hunt in Western Ne- 

 braska, I killed a *rolf at 240 yards, the first 

 shot passing through his heart. The sec- 

 ond day I shot 3 times at a wolf running. 

 The first shot missed; the second broke a 

 leg and the third passed through him. This 

 shot was at something like 150 yards. On 

 the rifle range of the local shooting club, I 

 shot at live turkeys, tied by their legs, at a 

 distance of 300 yards on open ground, and 

 killed 2 out of 17, there being 12 persons 

 shooting. All the members of the club 

 used fancy peep and globe sights, my gun 

 being the only one with open sights. On 

 the same range at the same distance, I got 

 2 birds out of 20, 14 shooters. 



John Combe, St. Joseph, Mo. 



Will say in reply to C. M. Grover, in De- 

 cember Recreation, that the cost of re- 

 loading .30 caliber shells is $1.20 per 100, 

 figured as follows: One pound can Dupont 

 military powder, which contains, by weight, 

 15^4 ounces and will load 230 shells, $125; 

 jacketed bullets, full or s.p. 230, at .54 c, 

 $1.25; primers. 230, 25 cents; total, $2.75. 



If powder is weighed for every charge 

 you can get greater accuracy than with 

 factory cartridges. In the first and only 

 10 shot group with my loading — 30 grains 

 Dupont military powder, U. M. C. shells, 

 No. ()\\ primer and 170 s.p. bullet, Marlin 

 rifle, telescope sight, muzzle rest, distance 

 too yards — I put 9 inside a 2^/4 inch circle. 

 The 10th shot was 7-8 inch from circle, 

 which deviation was caused by an acci- 

 dental movement as the trigger was pulled. 

 E. A. Pottier, Kansas City, Mo. 



smokeless powder, and have never yet failed 

 to get any deer shot at. I never shot one 

 that ran over 250 yards, and have never 

 killed one that had been hit more than once. 

 Y. M. C. A. will make no mistake if he 

 buys a Marlin or a Winchester .30-30. Both 

 are good guns and are made by good peo- 

 ple; but I prefer the Savage because of its 

 hammerless and circular magazine features. 

 The most deadly ammunition I know of is 

 soft nose bullets driven with smokeless 

 powder. 1 should not advise the use of full 

 metal patched bullets for any but target 

 use. L. A. S., No. 150, 



Grand Rapids, Mich. 



Will you or some of your subscribers tell 

 me which is the best gun for all-round 

 shooting, on open plains and thick timber. 

 Also if .30-30 smokeless shells can be re- 

 loaded, and how. 



Recreation is the best sportsmen's 

 magazine I ever read. 



L. M., Mendocino, Cal. 



Read back numbers of Recreation. It 

 has given many pages of information on 

 these subjects within the past 2 years. 



I own a .30-30 rifle and would not ex- 

 change it for any gun made. In reloading 

 shells use the Ideal mould and loader. Set 

 the adjustable chamber high enough to 

 slightly crimp the shell around the bullet. 

 Load with 7 or 8 grains of Walsrode pow- 

 der and a 140 grain ball. Harden the lead 

 with one to 20 of antimony, and no factory 

 loaded shell will give better results. I have 

 repeatedly put 5 out of 8 shots in a 4 inch 

 ring at 100 yards. For big game and at 

 long range I should use the jacketed ball 

 and 28 or 29 grains of high pressure smoke- 

 less powder. 



Charles N. Murray, M.D., Ivoryton, Ct. 



I have been obliged to part with my 

 cherished .38-55 rifle, because of inabil- 

 ity to take it to the game-fields. I ex- 

 changed it for a .25-20, same make. This, 

 like its predecessor, is fitted with Lyman 

 sights. The new weapon, however, is a 

 stranger to me as yet. I've not been intro- 

 duced, and don't know what it will do. 

 Can I reload profitably? 



W. H. N., Washington, D. C. 



I should like to hear, through Recrea- 

 tion, how the Winchester .32-40 compares 

 with .30-30 caliber guns. 



F. H. Campbell, Lexington, Pa. 



Y. M. C. A., Findlay, O., wants to know 

 which is the best gun for deer. I use a 

 Savage .303 with soft nose bullets and 



A 2 pound can of Laflin & Rand's cele- 

 brated smokeless powder, listed at $2, for 4 

 subscriptions to Recreation. You can 

 get these 4 subscriptions in half an hour 

 without interfering with your regular busi- 

 ness. 



