GUNS AND AMMUNITION. 



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I am glad to find that some people are 

 beginning to see the folly of using cheap 

 shot guns with smokeless powders. It is a 

 wonder to me that more people are not 

 killed through overloading junk firearms. 

 I should like to hear from others on this 

 subject. What is your idea about making 

 every person who carries a gun pay a li- 

 cense? We have many Italians here who 

 shoot with $4 guns. If these fellows had 

 to pay $5 a year for the privilege of carry- 

 ing scrap iron they would soon stop shoot- 

 ing. 



Your stand regarding the automatic gun 

 is commendable. 



Wilfred Wheeler, Concord, Mass. 



I am heartily in favor of resident hunt- 

 ing licenses in all States. Unnaturalized 

 foreigners should be required to pay at 

 least $10 a year for the privilege of hunt- 

 ing. — Editor. 



I note the articles in your magazine in re- 

 gard to the shooting power of various pow- 

 ders. In my opinion .none excels Dupont 

 for hard shooting. I have shot this powder 

 the last 4 years. Last. season I had a shell 

 left over from the previous season and 

 dropped a duck at 60 yards with No. 6 shot, 

 3/4 drachms powder. Only one shot hit the 

 bird, but it penetrated d:ep enough to in- 

 flict a mortal wound. The shot struck in 

 the left side. I shoot a 12 gauge hammer 

 gun, do all my hunting on the bars in the 

 Missouri and Mississippi rivers, and only in 

 a sportsmanlike way. The sportsmen out 

 here shoot double barrel guns and the pot 

 hunters use pump guns, but most men here 

 are sportsmen. 



Chas. F. Wagner, St. Louis, Mo. 



Can you give me any information regard- 

 ing the double barrel guns made by F. 

 Dumcurlin & Co., at Liege, Belgium? 



A. A. B., Columbus, O. 



ANSWER. 



I have seen guns of the make you refer 

 to. but have never used one nor have I ex- 

 amined them carefully. Those I have seen 

 were of cheap, low grade character, and 

 I do not know whether or not these people 

 make a high-priced gun. 



If you want a good gun, buy one of 

 American make and one that is advertised 

 in Recreation. Then you will be on the 

 w inning side if you know how to hold. — 

 Editor. 



Recreation is with us yet, though for 

 years the game hogs have said it would be 

 short lived. It looks now as if the hogs 

 would go under first. 



I have used many rifles, but my latest is 

 the best yet. It is a Savage 25-35, 20-inch 

 half octagon barrel. I use Ideal tool No. 

 3 and reload with either the metal patched 

 or the 90-grain lead bullet. The latter I 

 use with 4 grains Dupont shot gun smoke- 

 less at a cost of about 30 cents a hundred. 

 Savage 'rifles and Ideal tools are about 

 perfection. 



We do not need the automalic shot gun, 

 and I have no use for any concern that will- 

 manufacture it. 



G. E. Young, Malaga, Wash. 



In July Recreation J. D. Magee, Temple- 

 ton, Ore., says he has killed deer at 62 

 yards and black bear at 54 yards with No. 

 4 chilled shot. As a reader of Recreation 

 I should like to know why such stuff is pub- 

 lished. If Mr. Magee had said 10 or 12 

 yards, I might have believed him, but the 

 statement as he makes it is preposterous. 

 I am willing to wager that no deer or bear 

 was ever killed that distance with No. 4 or 

 any other shot. 



F. L. Haight, Cedar Rapids, la. 



I printed McGee's story to give you a 

 chance to roast him. — Editor. 



Has any reader of Recreation ever used 

 either a Winchester or a Hotchkiss 6 shot 

 carbine, bolt action, or a Vetterli 13 shot 

 repeating rifle, sporting model? If so 

 please let me know through Recreation. 



Keep up your war on the game and fish 

 hogs. You have the hearty co-operation 

 of all decent sportsmen. 



R. Dewing, San Francisco, Cal. 



Your answer to James Turner, Barry- 

 ville, N. Y., is not entirely correct. By 

 standing behind a rifleman on a clear day, 

 one with good eyes can easily see the course 

 of a bullet fired from rifle with full charge 

 of powder. It may not be the bullet one 

 sees, but a flickering streak is casilv seen, 

 and standing behind a soldier at the range 

 I have been able to tell nearly where he 

 has scored on the target. 



F. G. Legg, Coldwater, Mich. 



Will some one please tell me the pene- 

 tration of the 25-10-65 Stevens rim fire 

 cartridge? Also the penetration of the 38- 

 55-255 high pressure smokeless Savage? 



I see you are knocking the automatic gun. 

 If they keep on using automatics and pump 

 guns a few years will see the finish of our 

 birc|s and small animals. 



John Kauck, Portage, Wis, 



