462 INVESTIGATION" OF THE FUR-SEAL INDUSTRY OF ALASKA. 



Mr. Patton. Yes. In the Dr. Hornaday matter that is just what 

 you condemned him for, and now you turn around and do not give 

 him the same privilege. 



The Chairman. I did not condemn the witness at all. I examined 

 him to show his bias, if he has any, and that is the reason for my 

 questions. 



Mr. McGuire. I misunderstood the Chair. I thought the Chair 

 was criticizing the witness because he called attention to discrepancies 

 in the majority report. 



The Chairman. No; it was just to show that he is biased when 

 under oath. 



Mr. Patton. That is proper, but I think the witness should be 

 treated courteously and given a fair show. 



The Chairman. Of course. 



The Chairman. Now, Mr. Clark, you filed your report on Septem- 

 ber 30, 1909, and sent it to the Department? 



Mr. Clark. Yes. 



The Chairman. When did you see it next? 



Mr. Clark. When it appeared in Appendix A. 



The Chairman. Were you at the meeting of the advisory board 

 when your report was considered with Mr. Lembkey's report ? 



Mr. Clark. I was present at the meeting of the advisory board. 



The Chairman. Well, where was your report then ? 



Mr. Clark. I suppose it was in the hands of the bureau. I believe 

 that each member of the advisory board had a copy of it. 



The Chairman. Well, you said a moment ago that you did not see 

 it until it was print •<!. 



Mr. Clark. I did not see it at the meeting of the advisory board. 



The Chairman. Were you there when they considered it? 



Mr. Clark. Yes, sir. Each one of them had had a copy of the 

 report and apparently had read it, and then the discussion was on 

 what should be the advice of the board. 



The Chairman. Then they substituted Mr. Lembkey's report for 

 your report, did they not, or some parts of it? 



Mr. Clark. I was not aware of that. 



The Chairman. You say on page 888 of your original report, that 

 is, the Appendix, this: 



Fifteen animals — young bulls — too large for killing and nine shaved heads were 

 exempted, but no small seals whatever. As the end of the killing season approaches 

 it i* plain that no seal is really too small to be killed. Skins of less than five pounds 

 weight are taken and also skins of eight and nine pounds. These latter are plainly 

 animals which escaped the killing of last year because their heads were shaved. 

 Otherwise it does not seem clear how they did escape. 



Did you say they killed seals that had their heads shaved ? 



Mr. Clark. No, sir. 



The Chairman. Then is this statement in your report false? 



Mr. Clark. No, sir; we clipped the heads of 2,000 animals . 



The Chairman (interposing). Now, one moment. You say, 



These latter are plainly animals which escaped the killing of last year because 

 heir heads were shaved. 

 Now, did you see that? 



Mr. Clark. There was no shaved marks on the heads of those 

 animals that were killed. 



The Chairman. Well, why did you say that here ? 



