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Mr. Clark. This is the final hearing I am using. At page 171 

 you say further that there are from 750 to 800 bulls. 



Mr. Elliott. In active service. 



Mr. Clark. In active service ? 



Mr. Elliott. Yes, sir; the others were practically null and void. 

 They were not doing much. 



Mr. Clark. Then on page 66, where Mr. Elliott has given a daily 

 record of his count, they foot up 1,860. Now, gentlemen, . you 

 can take your choice. 



Mr. McGuire. One thousand eight hundred and sixty what? 



Mr. Clark. Bulls. 



Mr. Elliott. Of all classes. 



Mr. Clark. In this census we have all those figures. I do not 

 want to lay any stress upon these things, but I want you to understand 

 that this census is not like the census which I have prepared for you. 



Mr. McGuire. You state that the final figures and footings made 

 by Mr. Elliott amount to eighteen hundred and some bulls ? 



Mr. Clark. The census estimate he gives on page 27 is 1,550 bulls, 

 but if you will go to the field notes at the end of each day's work and 

 foot up his bulls they will number 1,860. 



Mr. McGuire. So that the discrepancy is where ? 



Mr. Clark. Between 1,550 and 1,860 in his own figures. 



Mr. McGuire. That is, his field notes show eighteen hundred and 

 something and his totals there show fourteen hundred and something. 



Mr. Clark. Yes; and I have called attention to various other 

 estimates in this report. 



Mr. McGuire. I am asking you now wherein there is any difference 

 in your computations and Mr. Elliott's or anybody else's. Do you 

 find an}' other differences in the count, in your count and Mr. Elliott's 

 and Mr. Gallagher's count? 



Mr. Clark. In the item of cows 80,000 is the figure given by Mr. 

 Elliott. Three weeks later we counted 92,269 pups. Therefore 

 there must have been 92,269 cows, and that is a difference of 12,269 

 in the matter of cows. 



Air. McGuire. Between your figures and Mr. Elliott's ? 



Mr. Clark. Yes. 



Mr. McGuire. For the purpose of this examination, as to these 

 different parties I v»dll simply desigante you as one count and Mr. 

 Elliott as the other, with the understanding that Mr. Gallagher was 

 with Air. Elliott, and you had other parties with you. Now, then, in 

 your judgment which is the easier to count, the cows or the pups ? 



Air. Clark. The cows can not be counted. At the time Mr. Elliott's 

 estimate was made not half of the cows were present on land and 

 not half of the pups were born, so that at that time neither of the 

 animals could be counted. 



Mr. McGuire. Then which is the more accurate way of getting a 

 correct count, by counting the cows or by counting the pups ? 



Mr. Clark. The count of pups is the only accurate way of enumer- 

 ating the cows. 



Mr. McGuire. There must be one cow for each pup ? 



Mr. Clark. Yes. 



Mr. McGuire. You mean to say the cows are coming and going 

 continuously ? 



Mr. Clark. Yes. 



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