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Mr. Clark. I do not know who made that statement, therefore I 

 do not know anything about its truth. 



The Chairman. Crowley was there on the island, was he not ? 



Mr. Clark. That does not connect Dr. Jordan with it. 



The Chairman. You were there with him, were you not ? 



Mr. Clark. Yes. 



The Chairman. Did you see Crowley there ? 



Mr. Clark. Crowley was the agent of the Government in charge. 



Mr. McGuiRE. Mi'. Clark, you were interrupted a while ago when 

 you were making a statement as to the authority of Dr. Jordan and 

 what he did. Were you through with that statement ? 



Mr. Clark. No. I want to make this final remark about the 

 killing of 1896 and 1897. As I have already pointed out, we had a 

 keen British commission there, prejudiced in favor of the idea that 

 land killing was responsible for a pait, at least, of the diminution of 

 the heid. That is why we struggled with this question of the quota. 

 On page 243 of volume 1, of the Jordan commission's report, is the 

 joint agreement on the question of land sealing of this American- 

 British Commission, of which Dr. Joidan was the head for the United 

 States, and Dr. Thompson, of University College, Dundee, Scotland, 

 head for Great Britain. It is in section 9 of this report, which begins 

 at page 240 of this volume No. 1 : 



The methods of driving and killing practiced on the islands, as they have come 

 under our observation during the past two seasons, call for no criticism or objection. 

 An adequate supply of bulls is present on the rookeries; the number of older bachelors 

 rejected in the drives during the period in question is such as to safeguard in the 

 immediate future a similarly adequate supply; the breeding bulls, females, and pups 

 on the breeding rookeries are not disturbed ; there is no evidence or sign of impair- 

 ment of virility of males; the operations of driving and killing are conducted skillfully 

 and without inhumanity. 



Dr. Jordan studied the question of killing, and that is his view of 

 it; and not merely Ins view, but it is the view of the British commis- 

 sion uniting with him. I submit to this committee that that must 

 answer the charge against Dr. Jordan of responsibility for killing 

 yearlings or for any form of illegal killing that is alleged to have 

 occurred in 1896-97. 



The Chairman. Was it agreed that the lessees should do the 

 killing ? 



Mr. Clark. That was a matter with which we had nothing to do. 



Mr. Stephens. Who did control that? 



Mr. Clark. The agent of the Government controlled the killing 

 and was present at every killing. 



The Chairman. Who was he ? 



Mr. Clark. Joseph B. Crowley; and he ordered the drives and was 

 on the killing field, but of course the representative of the lessees was 

 there also. 



Mr. Stephens. Was not Mr. Crowley the agent of the lessee him- 

 self? 



Mr. Clark. No, he was not. Joseph Stanley Brown was the agent 

 of the company. 



Mr. McGuire. On page 58, as to "indisputable fact No. I," there 

 are some observations. What have you to say about those ? 



Mr. Clark. This indisputable fact entered as No. I, on page 58, 

 and repeated at page 183 of this hearing, is the keynote of the whole 



