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and altering a quotation, while the reference itself disproves the 

 charge. This charge of falsification against Dr. Jordan is not founded 

 in fact, and is untrue. 



The Chairman. Then would you suppose that there is one side of 

 this that supports Mr. Elliott's theory and another side that supports 

 the Jordan theory ? 



Mr. Clark. There is nothing here to indicate that. 



The Chairman. Now, I am informed by Mr. Elliott that he has the 

 original letter here, and that he can translate it himself, and knows 

 just exactly what it contains. 



Mr. Clark. I had a Russian scholar by the name of M. Lippett 

 Larkin, an instructor in Stanford University, translate this letter 

 from the fac simile 



The Chairman. Mr. Clark, you see we get into interminable trouble 

 by going along the way we do. 



Mr. McGuire. But here is the point. Mr. Elliott makes a direct 

 accusation against Dr. Jordan, and the most favorable construction 

 that can be placed upon it, so far as Mr. Elliott is concerned, is that 

 it is simply a disputed question as to the proper translation. Either 

 that is true or Mr. Elliott willfully makes a misstatement. So that is 

 the idea developed on these two points. There are two translations; 

 Mr. Elliott takes one and Dr. Jordan takes the other. Mr. Elliott 

 takes one translation and says that Dr. Jordan was willfully falsifying 

 in making a certain statement, when reference to the translation used 

 by Dr. Jordan makes his statement absolutely true. 



The Chairman. Yes; and the witness would like to convince the 

 committee that Mr. Elliott makes willful misstatements; so that we 

 are getting out the same end either way. 



Mr. McGuire. Well, we can argue that later, when we come to 

 make our report — and I have some well-defined ideas about that. 



The Chairman. Well, I only made that remark because we are 

 getting at nothing. 



Mr. McGuire. But this is certainly important, Mr. Chairman, 

 because it shows that Mr. Elliott took one translation and Dr. Jordan 

 took the other. 



Mr. Stephens. I would like to ask, for my own information, 

 what is the difference between a "bachelor" and a "young breeder" ? 



Mr. Clark. A "bachelor" is a young male; and a "young breeder" 

 would mean either a male or a female. 



Mr. Stephens. You would have to couple the two when it says 

 "the breeding animals remain"; that means both male and female? 



Mr. Clark. The statement is — only the "old breeding animals 

 remain " ; then, that if not killed in the autumn, the "young breeders" 

 are sure to be killed in the following spring. 



Mr. Stephens. What is a young animal ? 



Mr. Clark. One under 4 months old. 



Mr. Stephens. Suppose they are 3 or 4 years old ? 



Mr. McGuire. Excuse me, Mr. Stephens, but I think members 

 of the committee do not clearly distinguish between a bachelor and 

 a young breeder. Will you explain that, Mr. Clark. 



Mr. Clark. The point is that the "young breeder" would be either 

 a female or a male, where a "bachelor" would be just a male, and 

 could not be anything else. 



