690 INVESTIGATION OF THE FUR-SEAL INDUSTRY OF ALASKA. 



Mr. McGuire. In that event we are violating the treaty right now? 



Mr. Clark. That is certainly what we are doing. 



Mr. Stephens. Why should we not be expected to do that? 



Mr. Clark. If the treaty is violated, the persons who are interested 

 in this treaty and who stood back of pelagic sealing may say, "You 

 have violated your contract and we will repudiate the treaty/' This 

 done, the pelagic fleets will reassemble themselves and begin, again, to 

 kill the female seals at sea. 



The Chairman. If they should accept your version of it; but if they 

 are satisfied, that is the end of it. 



Mr. McGuire. Oh, yes; if they are satisfied. 



Mr. Elliott. They are satisfied. 



The Chairman. One other question. You said a moment ago that 

 Congressman Sulzer asked for help from Dr. Jordan, and that was the 

 reason he sent that telegram. What was the help he asked for? 



Mr. Clark. I mentioned that fact merely to call attention to the 

 fact that Dr. Jordan did not strike out of a clear sky with his telegram 

 to Mr. Sulzer. 



The Chairman. Well, what did Congressman Sulzer ask him to do ? 



Mr. Clark. I do not recall that telegram. I do not think I saw it; 

 but Dr. Jordan received a telegram from him and responded. That 

 is all. 



Mr. Patton. It was in answer to a telegram from Congressman 

 Sulzer that he sent his telegram ? 



Mr. Clark. Yes, sir. 



The Chairman. That is the reason I asked the question. He said 

 he asked for help, and I thought he could probably clear that up. 



Mr. Clark. I do not think I saw the telegram. My understanding 

 was that Mr. Sulzer had found himself up against a dead wall, that 

 something had to be done, and he asked Dr. Jordan to help him. 



By unanimous consent the committee adjourned to meet Wedes- 

 day, February 25, 1914, at 10 o'clock a. m. 



committee on expenditures in the department of commerce. 



House of Representatives, 

 Washington, D. C, Wednesday, February 25, 1914- 

 The committee met at 10 o'clock a. m., Hon. John H. Rothermel 

 (chairman) presiding. 



Present: Hon. John H. Stephens, Hon. John T. Watkins, Hon. 

 Henry Bruckner, Hon. Bird S. McGuire, and Hon. Charles E. Patten. 



TESTIMONY OF ME. WAITER I. LEMBKEY. 



The Chairman. Mr. Lembkey, have you a written statement that 

 you wish to submit '. 



Mr. Lembkey. I have not a written consecutive statement, Mr. 

 Chairman. I have some notes here, to which I wish to refer and 

 which I shall follow rather closely, but I have no written statement 

 to submit to the committee. 



The Chairman. You may be sworn. 



(The witness was duly sworn by the Chairman.) 



