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me that it might be better if we have that which might be termed 

 cross-examination after we have heard what Mr. Lembkey has to say, 

 and that I will examine him on these statements, together with some 

 other things that I want to bring in. 



The Chairman. You would rather interrogate him as we go along? 



Mr. McGuire. Yes; I should like to. 



The Chairman. Then he may proceed with his statement, and you 

 may ask such questions as occur to you. We will proceed in that way. 

 I only mention that because I thought perhaps we could gain time. 



Mr. McGuire. I am perfectly willing to wait until the last, after 

 the other members of the committee have examined him. 



The Chairman. I think it is all right to interrogate him as you 

 suggest. 



Mr. McGuire. Mr. Lembkey, who is Mr. Gallagher? 



Mr. Lembkey. Mr. Gallagher, so far as I know, was the agent of 

 this committee, and arrived on the seal islands in 1913, in company 

 with Mr. H. W. Elliott. 



Mr. McGuire. Do you know by what authority he was there? 



Mr. Lembkey. I have this knowledge on that subject. When Mr. 

 Elliott arrived on the island he exhibited to me a letter, which I 

 believe was signed by the chairman of this committee, authorizing 

 him or directing him to proceed to the seal islands, and I think in 

 that letter Mr. Gallagher was mentioned; I had had the idea he was 

 mentioned as a stenographer, but I am not certain. 



Mr. McGuire. You do not know whether Mr. Gallagher was ever 

 on the islands before ? 



Mr. Lembkey. He was not on the islands previously during the 

 period I was there. 



Mr. McGuire. He never had been on the islands while you were 

 there ? 



Mr. Lembkey. Previous to 1913; no. 



Mr. McGuire. Had he ever been connected, so far as you know, 

 with seal killing ? 



Mr. Lembkey. Not to my knowledge. 



Mr. McGuire. Or as an expert in seal handling and seal killing? 



Mr. Lembkey. I never heard of him before in that connection. 



Mr. McGuire. Mr. Elliott makes a statement there that while you 

 were in San Francisco you were a frequent visitor of Mr. Liebes. 

 Who was Liebes ? 



Mr. Lembkey. Who was he ? I understood he had some connec- 

 tion with the North American Commercial Co , but beyond that un- 

 derstanding I could not say. 



Mr. McGuire. You were at that time an employee of the Govern- 

 ment on the Pribilof Islands ? 



Mr. Lembkey. I was. 



Mr. McGuire. And connected with seal killing and seal manage- 

 ment in general? 



Mr. Lembkey. Yes, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. Is that statement of Elliott's that you, in 1900, 

 visited Liebes frequently while vou were in San Francisco, true or 

 false ? 



Mr. Lembkey. False. 



Mr. Watkixs. Mr. Chairman, I suggest, in order to conduct the 

 proceedings in a dignified and legislative way — that is, a manner in 



