652 INVESTIGATION OF THE FUR-SEAL INDUSTRY OF ALASKA. 



which was indicated by a leather tag, which tag was attached to the 

 skin. Mr. Whitney 



Mr. Stephens (interposing). Were these tags numbered? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. Mr. Whitney had a record of Mr. Lemb- 

 key's weights which were taken green, that is, before they were put in 

 the salt. And Mr. Whitney would then call off Mr. Lembkey's green 

 weights, Mr. Clark would take a note of that, and so would I. Then 

 the" natives would take a somewhat smaller skin and place it on top 

 of this skin which had been weighed, and they would put this smaller 

 skin, flesh to flesh, on top of the bigger skin, and then bundle it. Mr. 

 Hatton would then put the bundle of skins on the scales and weigh 

 it, and I verified those weights, and either he or I would call off the 

 weights, and Mr. Clark would note down those weights, and so would I. 



The Chairman. Did they take the larger skin and smaller skin and 

 bundle them together 1 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir; and that is when the weights were taken. 



Mr. Bruckner. They were weighed in pairs ? 



Mr. Gallagher. They were bundled and then weighed ; yes, sir. 



The Chairman. At that time Mr. Elliott, Mr. Whitney, Mr. Clark, 

 you, and somebody else, were all together ! 



Mr. Gallagher. And Mr. Hatton; yes, sir. 



The Chairman. And the weights and sizes were called out ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. 



The Chairman. Did you compare notes at the time as to correct- 

 ness ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Well, I verified Mr. Hat ton's weights, and if at 

 any time there was any doubt as to the measurement as called off by 

 Mr. Hatton, sometimes Mr. Clark would ask me what it was, and 

 sometimes I would ask him, and we checked notes in that way and 

 made them agree. 



The Chairman. Did you have any disagreement about anything at 

 any time with Mr. Clark ? 



Mr. Gallagher. In the salt house ? 



The Chairman. Yes. 



Mr. Gallagher. Only at the very beginning of the proceedings 

 that day. Mr. Clark took exception to the scales on which we were 

 to weigh the skins, claiming that they were not fine enough. 



The Chairman. What was done then ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Mr. Elliott wanted a larger pair of scales, and it 

 seemed, from Mr. Elliott's statement, that the matter of fractions of 

 ounces did not mak ) any difference. So we got the larger scales and 

 weighed them on the larger scales. 



Mr. Bruckner. Who owned the scales ? 



Mr. Gallagher. They were taken from the storehouse on the 

 island. 



Mr. Bruckner. Who owned them? Whose property were they? 



Mr. Gallagher. The Government's property, as far as I know. 



The Chairman. State whether you noted any blubber on some of 

 the skins. 



Mr. Gallagher. I did; yes, sir. 



The Chairman. I wish you would describe that in your own way 

 without having me ask you any questions in detail. 



Mr. Gallagher. When I went to the salt house that morning with 

 Mr. Elliott, I went there with the expectation that we were to take 



