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Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. You say they were weighed on heavy scales. Were 

 the scales tested to see whether they were accurate as to ounces ? 



Mr. Gallagher. They were not tested in my presence. 



Mr. McGuire. Do you know of any way in which they were tested— 

 by any sort of means ? 



Mr. Gallagher. No, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. You never heard anything said about that ? 



Mr. Gallagher. No, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. But you did hear some conversation as to the 

 character of the scales to bo used ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. 



Mr McGuire. Did Mr. Clark object to the scales used? 



Mr. Gallagher. Mr. Clark claimed that the scales were not the 

 particular scales on which the green weights of the skins had been 

 previously taken by Mr. Lembkey. 



Mr. McGuire. And he wanted to use the previous scales ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. Mr. Elliott refused to do that ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. I think Mr. Elliott's contention was 

 that these particular scales were not large enough to take the com- 

 bined weight of the two skins when put in a bundle. 



Mr. McGuire. Whatever may have been his purpose, he refused 

 to use the scales on which they were weighed green, but took a 

 heavier pair of scales ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. Do you know the capacity of the scales on which he 

 weighed those hides ? 



Mr. Gallagher. No, sir; I do not. 



Mr. McGuire. You indicated to the committee in your testimony 

 that the twine lying over there on those records [indicating] is about 

 the size of the twine that was used, in wrapping up the skins ? 



Mr. Gallagher. I think that "'s about the size of the twine, 

 although I think the twine used there was slightly harder. 



Mr. McGuire. That would be natural, would it not, after it had 

 been in the salt ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir; I should think so. 



Mr. McGuire. How many feet of twine, did you say, were in each 

 double skin tied together ? 



Mr. Gallagher. I did not measure that twine, but I have heard 

 there was 10 feet of twine used. 



Mr. McGuire. You only know that in a general way ? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir; that is, from hearsay. 



Mr. McGuire. Was or was not the twine with which they wrapped 

 the skins at that time, or just prior to their weighing them, the same 

 twine that had been around them before, or had there been any 

 twine around them ? 



Mr. Gallagher. There had been no twine around them pre- 

 viously; and, by the way, this was fresh twine; it was not soaked in 

 wet salt. 



Mr. McGuire. It was not soaked twine, but they used fresh twine? 



Mr. Gallagher. Yes, sir. 



Mr. McGuire. Mr. Gallagher, what did you weigh those skins for? 



Mr. Gallagher. What did I weigh them for ? 



