818 INVESTIGATION" OF THE FUR-SEAL INDUSTRY OE ALASKA. 



The Chairman. Where did you get the letters, Mr. McGuire ? 



Mr. MoGuire. If the chairman remembers the testimony of Mr. 

 Clark, who testified before the committee some time ago, he will 

 remember about these letters. These are the letters with respect to 

 which Mr. Clark testified, the Amos Allen letters ; that he had turned 

 them over to Mr. Redfield and that they were now in Mr. Redfield's 

 possession. I first obtained the consent of Mr. Clark to get these 

 letters, and I wrote to Mr. Redfield for them. Their first reply was, 

 I think, that the letters were before the committee, but that they 

 would get them immediately. I have the letter here transmitting 

 these letters, signed, I think, by the chief clerk of the Department of 

 Commerce, stating that they had obtained them at my request. I 

 got them from the Secretary of Commerce. 



Mr. Elliott. That is right. He had them and took them away 

 with him or left them, as I did all my papers in opposition to Smith; 

 I left a large number. I withdrew my opposition to Mr. Smith solely 

 on the ground that the secretary stated he would carry out the plans 

 of this House committee ; that being pledged to the Senators by Mr. 

 Redfield, I told him 1 did not care then whom he appointed, and I 

 do not now have any care about it. I said I would rather have Mr. 

 Redfield's word that he would carry out the plans of this committee 

 than to have any man of my own appointment. Then a great deal 

 more passed between the Secretary and myself, and we came to a 

 perfect understanding. 



Mr. McGuire. Did you ever write any letters to which you signed 

 the name "Julius" ? 



Mr. Elliott. No. 



Mr. McGuire. You heard the testimony of Mr. Clark before the 

 committee? 



Mr. Elliott. Yes. 



Mr. McGuire. And the reference he made to the letter written 

 and signed "Julius"? 



Mr. Elliott. Yes. 



Mr. McGuire. You were not the author of those letters, I believe 

 yon stated? 



Mr. Elliott. Xo. 



Mr. McGuire. Xow, you stated the other day that the reason } t ou 

 weighed those skins, salted them for shipment, and tied them up in 

 2's and weighed them that way was because that was the way they 

 weighed them when they reached London. Is that right ? 



Mr. Elliott. Oh, no: that is the way they reach them. When 

 they reached London they were opened out, and weighed in hun- 

 dreds, not individually. 



Mr. McGuire. One hundred at a time? 



Mr. Elliott. Yes. 



Mr. McGuire. You stated that they were weighed with the salt 

 on them. 



Mr. Elliott. Yes. 



Mr. McGuire. You stated the other day that the salt was on there? 



Mr. Elliott. Oh, yes; there is a good deal of the curing salt on 

 them as they open them out and ''book" them for sale in London; 

 nearly all of it. 



Mr. McGuire. I have here a letter in reply to a letter from Mr. 

 Lembkey to Mr. Fraser, dated January 28, 1914. I will read it: 



