FOREST AND STREAM. 



255 



N Washburn. 



4 5B5446E>B6B555 0-68 

 544565345 5554 5— C4 



5 5 4 3 5 55554555 5-66 



Total 19* 



Jlomer Fisher. 

 0055 5 3 45544555 5—60 

 i 6 5 9 S 4 4 4 5 4 6 4 6 5-69 

 5 3 4 5345544454 4—64 



L I Hepburn. 



5 5 5 4 5 5 5 5 3 5 5 5 5—62 

 55 53454 55444 54 5—07 

 5 5 403435535543 5—68 



Total 187 



F A Dugro. 



5 4 5 5 4 5 3 5 5 5 5 5— 6t 

 3 5 5 3 5 5 5 3 4 5 5 4 3 6 4— «4 

 5045530245K34 2 3—45 



J W Gardner., 

 John Ross...., 

 C B Trnslow.. 



Total r9S Total 1T0 



Au event which attracted a great deal of attention was 

 'Mho skirmishers match," the prize being a gold medal, pre- 

 sented by General H. Duryea. The method of firing is as 



follows: 



The competitors were formed in squads, opposite three 

 targets, at 500 yards distance, and one competitor tool; his 

 place at each of the three tiring points. At a blast from a 

 whistle by tile superintendent each man advanced toward 

 the target until a second blast, when they took auy position 

 agreeable to them, and tired. This was repeated by the 

 several squads until all had fired the requisite number of 

 times. There were many misses, as very few had ever prac- 

 ticed that mode of firing". The scores were as follows: 



,-.tt.7.„..,„ (Advance 2 5 4 5 4— 20 



C II Eagle \ Retreat 5 5 5 *-49—39 



v -r, «-' , (Advance 3 o 2 5 4-14 



NDWard \Ketreat 4 5 3 5 2-19-33 



wtro „ ..,„. <, Advance 4 2 3 5-14 



EHSanlord J Retreat 4 5 4 4—17-31 



.„,.„„,„„ 'I Advance 4 5 3 5—17 



AB Van Benson ".Retreat 4 3 2 5 0—14—31 



„„.,., ... \Advauce o 4 4 5-13 



M PitagibDons -. -j Retreat 3 4 4 2 4-17-30 



•or b„k.*™ (Advance 3 4 2 5 0-14 



W Robertson "(Retreat 4 3 2 3 2-14-28 



n„^„„-o„„ OT (Advance 4 5—9 



GeorgeRover /Retreat 5 5 3 3-10—25 



,„.,,.,„.. I Advance 2 3 4 5-14 



rw Linton 1 Retreat 4 2 4 0-10-24 



T ,.„,-., „„„ >. (Advance 3 3 4—10 



John Cavanagli 1 Retreat 4 4 2 3-13-23 



I Advance 5 4—9 



"i Retreat 5 2 2 4—13—22 



fAnvance 4 2 3 4—13 



) Retreat 2 4 2 0-8-21 



j Advance 4 2 5 2-13 



r "(Retreat 5 0—5—18 



At the conclusion of this contest the first competition for 

 the "Wingate" rifle was held at the "running deer target." 

 The conditions differed slightly from former matches at the 

 deer, only one shot being allowed during the transit of the 

 animal. Kepeating rifles were thus placed on an equality 

 with ' 'single loaders." The distance covered was 100 yards, 

 and each competitor was allowed four runs. The scores 

 were as follows : 



George Rover 16 James Ross 5 



WM Farrow 10 F A Dugro 4 



W Robertson ".....A n Ge rge Wood ?....... 3 



EHSanford ."... 5 DP Austin 2 



A B Van Heusen 5 



The Irish-American Club badge was shot for at 300 and 

 600 yards distance, and won by Dr. M. M. Maliby, upon the 

 score of 75 out of a possible 100 points. Tlie Seventh Regt 

 meut Eifle Club shot for the "shells" and a Remington rifle. 

 Private C. H. Eagle won the former trophy upon the score 

 of 21 out. of a possible 25 points at 500 yards distance, and 

 Corp. J. W. Gardner carried off the rifle upon the score of 

 45 out of an attainable 50 at the same distance. 



Geantj Tkukk Rifle Association.— The first annual match 

 took place at Montreal, six teams entering. The following 

 are the winning figures. Distance, 400 and 500 yards ; teams 

 of five, seven shots at each range. 



TEAM PRIZES. 



-mo yds. 500 yds. Total. 



1st or Prince of W. Rifles 143 128 271 $16 



Victoria Rifles .4 134 126 260 10 



titnFusilliers 155 104 259 5 



Private A. Ross won the first prize with 65, and the total of 

 the winning team was 271. 



Connecticut— Willmc Brook Range, Oct. 27.— Semi-monthly 

 shoot. Afternoon very favorable tor good shooting. There 

 was considerable practice at the long ranges, but no regular 

 match. There were live entries for the championship badge 

 at 500 yards, and it was won for the second time by C. Smith, 

 of Hartford, with a score of 49 out of 50. Several members 

 have won it twice. Mr. Smith used the "Old Reliable" 

 Sharp's rifle. 



—The resolution of the N. R. A. which was not a resolu- 

 tion, the same having not been passed : " That, while for 

 several reasons it may be for the interest of rifle shoot- 

 ing that the match for the championship should be reduced 

 to contests between an American team and one representing 

 the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, yet, 

 tJiat this association deems it inexpedient that a match other 

 than that for the Centennial Trophy should be instituted by 

 them for that purpose. " 



The Nevada Silver Baogb.— On Monday last, Company 

 I, Seventh Regiment, held its annual contest for the "Ne- 

 vada " badge at Creedmoor. The conditions governing the 

 match make it necessary for each company contesting to in- 

 clude thirty-five members, aud the company making the 

 greatest aggregate acore is entitled to hold the trophy for one 

 year. Tlie distances covered were 200 and 500 yards, five 

 shots at each range. Following is the record, the highest at- 

 tainable individual score being fifty points, and the highest 

 possible aggregate 1,750 : F. Harper. 34 ; G. F. Merchant, 

 33 ; C. J. Byrd, 33 ; J. D. Condict, 31 ; F. P. Marshall, 31 ; 

 S. A. Lathrop, 29; D. Chauncey, Jr., 29; E. R. Young, 29; 

 W. F. Englis, 28 : S. J. Gorman, 27 ; G. W. Chauncey, 27 ; 

 W. M. Bangs, 27 ; J S. Kfous, 27 ; E. E. Sage, 27 ; F. S. 

 Bangs, 26 ; J. T. Pyle, 25 ; Lieut. W. G. D uninick, 25 ; E. 

 W. Candee, 25 ; J. C. Ogden, 24 ; G. H. Gould, 24 ; J. L. 

 Carr, 23; J. W Kilbreth, 23; O. Wiswall, 22; J. Williams, 

 22 ; \V. N. Vail, 22; C. F. Sheldon, 22; W. W. Falcon, 21; 

 .1. T. Harper, 20; S. C. Martin, 20; F. C. Thomas, 18; L. 

 H. Berrian, 17; Capt. W. C. Casey, 16; H. Fell, 13; L. H. 

 Schultz, 6 ; total, 847. The badge will therefore go to Corn- 

 pan v A, Forty-eighth Regiment, Oswego, which made 1,171 

 points in the contest on Sept. 1 last. The Seventh Regiment 

 also shot for the "California" badge, at. 200, 500 and (300 

 yards: five shots a j each distance. Sergt. Daniel Chauncey, 

 Jr., of Company I, was the winner upon the remarkable score 

 of 65 out of a possible 75 points. In the contest for the "An- 

 flTBws" diamond badge, which took place at 200 and 300 

 yards, oil" hand, 10 shots at each distance, Capt. Ch ales F. 

 Bobbins -was the successful competitor upon the score of 72 

 put of au attainable 100 points. Major-Gen. Shaler and four 

 members of his staff, who had not previously qualified for 

 " Marksmen's " badges, shot for the trophies yesterday. The 

 n'inne.rs were as follows: Col, H. A. Gildersleeve, 36; Col. J. 



C. Barron, 29 ; Major Post, 35. Lieut. Col. Frank Wrisley 

 failed to quality. Gen. Shaler and Col. Sandford had previ- 

 ously won the trophies. 



New Youk— Rochester.— The second contest, between the 

 members of the Amateur Rifle Club for the bronze medal of 

 the National Rifle Association and the aneroid barometer 

 given by the club, came off on the 24th of October at the 

 range. The prizes were won at the first contest by R. B. 

 Yates, who at. that time made the finest score that has ever 

 teen made on the range— 94 out of a possible 100. The. 

 shooting was not perhaps quite up to the average. Mr. Rods 

 was the winner. The following is the score : 



800 yds. 1,000 yds. 



ARortn 4 4 5 4 5 r. 5 5 5 4—40 2 'J 5 5 5 3 4 4 3 4—37-83 



I ! G Ride*, ... .5554 4 4 5 5 S 5-41 345452445 0-3ti-S3 

 W S Smith, J*.-.. 5 5 3 3 5 4 5 4 4 5—13 8 B S 4 t, S . r > 8 9-38-81 

 R It YftteS - ;; B 5 5 3 5 4 5 5 5-45 2 4 8 5 6 5 2 5-31 — 1 6 

 9 A Servls'. 4 6553 3554 5-44 5— 5-4!) 



Rochester.— On the 25th the prize of $100 Tor superior 

 marksmanship by teams in the companies of the Seventh Di- 

 vision, N. Y. S.'N. 6., was won by Ob. E, Of the Fit'tv-biurih 

 Regiment; the second prize was awarded to Co. -G, ltOth 

 battalion. 



The Hbi.vktia. and Zetti.kk Matou.— Tins event, took 

 took place. on Monday last. On the 1st of October the 11. Ive- 

 tias had beaten the Zettlers : but the latter not being satisfied, 

 determined in the most, plucky way oner more to tempt the 

 fortunes of war. Notwithstanding some fine shooting on the 

 port i of the Zettlers, Helvetia was again the conqueror. The 

 match took place at the Schutzen Park. We append the 

 totals : 



HELVETIA. ZETTLER, 



Philip Klein .217 W Klein 205 



Fred Rosier 211 C Zetltcr 208 



A Gllellwlg 208 J. Bird 186 



F WFIiedner 194 Mb Klggs 184 



J^elpnn Lewis 100 J Grohmau 1R1 



John M'tfhz IBS M Kugel 177 



Jac. Acschbach 181 D Miller 175 



KobFaher • 1S1 I> L Beekwkli 17?, 



Fridolm I.andolt 178 P, pettier 172 



FeterMejer ITS M Dorr] or . 172 



John Eein 177 F Patterson 170 



Lewis Preyer 175 Th Ivleisrattl 166 



,JJ Tobler 178 r Fanuine 167 



Aug- Brmiseh.... 170 LG Beatea 186 



Aug Kuoeplli 163 C Jadson 135 



TRIAL OF THE WINCHESTER RE- 

 PEATING SPORTING RIFLE. 



Total 2,772 



Average, 184 .75 In ten 6liotB. 



Total % 



Average, 172.76 in ten shots; 



Zkttmcr Rifle Gali/ehy.— B. Zettler, shooting master of 

 the Zettler Rifle Club, offered a gold medal on Friday even- 

 ing, Oct. 25, to any member making the best score ; Creed- 

 moor target reduced for distance ; one trial ; entrance free ; 

 possible 50. The following are the scores i 



(' Jurlson 50 Oris Sc.hurman 47 



WB Eugel 49 CG Zettler 47 



I) L Beck 49 B Zettler....' 49 



1) jiiiler 48 W jM Farrow 46 



LG Bfntse .43 W Klein 46 



PFenning 41 C Va'lers 44 



L M Riggs - .47 Geo W Connors 4:: 



LBird... 47 MDorrler 42 



The Yoekville Rifle Club. — This club met on the 27lh 

 of last month, and the following business was transacted : A 

 constitution and by-laws were adopted. Mr. George MeCleish 

 was elected Vice-President. Messrs. J. J. Reilly, W. AY. 

 Dodge and A. Smart were elected on the Executive Com- 

 mittee. The Executive Committee met, and arranged con- 

 ditions and matches for November 6, 1877. Competitions for 

 Tuesday, Nov. 6, 1877, Berrians vs. Long Island, at 11 a. m. 

 First competition for a belt revolver, presented by Mr. J. L. 

 Paulding. Open to all members Y. R. C. ; weapou, any rifle 

 within the rules ; distance, 200 yards ; rounds, five, and two 

 sighting shots allowed. To be won three times before becom- 

 ing personal property of winner (not necessarily consecutive). 

 Highest aggregate score to take 1 5' per cent, of entrance money, 

 second, 10 percent. Eutrance fee, ten cents, at 1:30 p.m. 

 First competition for the gold champion badge of the club, 

 open only to active members Y. R. C. ; to be shot for monthly. 

 Winner to hold until next competition; weapon, any rifle with- 

 in the rules ; distance, 200 yards ; rounds, fifteen, and two 

 sighting shots allowed. Entrance fee twenty-five cents, 15 

 per cent, to highest score and 10 per cent, to second. 



— The Newark Amateur Rifle Club shot a match with the 

 South Orange Amateur Rifle Association on the range of the 

 latter, at South Orange, on the 25th of last month. The 

 match was a very close one, the Newark Club winning by 

 only two points. At the conclusion of the match the South 

 Orange Club were entertained by the gentlemen from New- 

 ark. The following is the score : 



NEWAEK AMATEUR SIFI.E CLUB. 



fm, O. Gardner, captain of the team, not shooting. 



ASFowle 



John Bayer.. 



Wm P McLeod. . . 

 James L Tobin.... 

 James D Terrill.. 



44544 3 544 4—41 



..3 4 B 4 4 4 4 5 4 5-40 



..4 54 454444 4—42 



..845444844 4-: J .9 



..444555434 4—42—204 



SOUTH ORANGE RIFLE ASSOCIATION. 



Robert, A. Halliday, captain of team, not shooting. 



CNGardner 5 34444454 5—42 



D J Terrill 3 4 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4—10 



MCrowell 5 443 5 5434 4—41 



WDecker 5 4 4 4 1 3 4 5 3 4—40 



Frank Brown 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4—39—202 



Considering that, the Newark Club has only been in exist- 

 ence some three months, the record is an excellent one. 



Pbize Shooting in the Schuetzkn Pap.k, Fnion Hill. — 

 The Zettlsr Eifle Club, after their match with the Helvetian on 

 Monday, Oct. 24. had a match among themselves with ten 

 prizes. The following is the score : 



D Miller .69 rings $10 John Raschen 05 rings $4 



C Zettler ...68 " S Th Kliesraih 04 " 3 



J Manz 68 " 7 P Myer .- 04 " 3 



W M Fanow 06 " 6 A Kaber 04 « 3 



LBird 65 " 6 Win Klein 63 " 2 



C. Zettler and J. Mauz divided their two prizes, as did 

 Messrs. Bird and Raschens. S. O. V. 



Louisiana— New Orleans. Oct. 24. — The Lilienthal trophy 



was shot for the iif th time at. Froginoor. The terms upon which 

 this trophy was presented require it to be shot for once 

 esch month until it is won three times, when it becomes the 

 pi iva'e property of the triple victor. So far it has been won 

 by Messrs. Renaud, Arms, Mailing, Eyrich; and on the 24th by 

 Mr. Glynn. The following is the best score : Distances, 800, 

 900 and 1,000 yards.— Glynn, 66, 69, 08, total 105. 



So many questions are put to us in regard to the excellence 

 of various arms, that long ago we declined giving an opinion. 

 In the first place, it would be impossible for us to handle the 

 infinite variety of weapons which come under our notice ; 

 and, secondly, we claim no infallibility of judgment. A good 

 many models and plans for arms have been forwarded to us, 

 and in these cases we have been sometimes willing, as far 

 as lay in our power, to judge of their practical usefulness. 

 When we consider the amount of responsibility we must 

 assume in passing judgment on these intricate subjects, and 

 how the lives of our readers may be endangered, it can 

 readily be understood why we are chary of deciding in an ex 

 cathedra way, in regard to the merits of any arm, especially 

 when the safety of a gun or rifle is questioned. 



Some time ago, as may be seen by tlie correspondence 

 which we publish, a gentleman iu Michigan submittsd to 

 our judgment the delicate question of the safely of a rifle 

 made by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company (model 

 of 1876). Though we felt perfectly satisfied of the excel- 

 lence of the arm, we preferred addressing the company 

 directly o i the subject. With this preface the subjoined 

 correspondence explaius itself : 



October 20, 1S7T. 

 Chablks Hallock, Esq.: 



x y Deyr Sir— Being aware of the existence of your very necessary 

 rule, to express no opinion iu the Forest and Stkkaai couotu'uing the 

 relative merits of different arms, it, is with much hesitation that I ven- 

 ture to address you with the request that if yon should not deem it, im- 

 proper to do so, and should I not presume too far as a stranger In ask- 

 ing your advice, you would do me the very great kindness to give, me 

 your opinion by letter as to the safety of the new model (Ueutsnnia) ' 

 1876) Winchester repeating sporting rifle. I have recently pnichased 

 one of these rifles (using T5 grain • of powder ami 350 of lead), and while 

 much pleased with it m other respects, am absolutely iifraid or it by 

 reason of what seems to me, after enteral examination, the weakness 

 of the breech fastening. I should judge that the force of the explosion 

 must be resisted mainly by certain small pins, the breaking of one of 

 which would involve certain and serious tojury to the person using the 

 arm. It is proper for me to add that J ask this information solely for 

 my own personal. benefit and safety, and should not feel at lib.rty u> 

 communicate your opinion to any other person to the Injury of the 

 manufacturer. Yours truly, Wilson H, Ghat. 



New Haven, Conn., Oct. 27, 1S7T. 

 Charles Hallock, Ksq.: 



Hear Sir— Your letter of 23d instant is at hand enclosing letter fjpm 

 W. H. Gray, in which he expresses his apprehension of the want of 

 strength to resist tne force of the explosion, as upon his examination 

 it appears the force of the explosion was resisted mainly by certain 

 small pins. 



As we had never submitted this arm (model of 1S76) to any trial to 

 this end, we had no data upon which we could express a decided 

 opinion, and decided to tubmit one of them to a thorough trial with 

 increased charges up to the bursting pjint. 



This resulted— on the seventh trial, when fired with a charge of 203 

 grains of United States Government powder and six Martini bullets of 

 480 grains each, total, 2.SS5 grains— in bending the breeeh pis, blow- 

 ing out the side plates, etc., leaving the links and small pins, where Mr. 

 Gray apprehended danger, intact and in perfect oruer. 



We trust this demonstration will serve to give your correepon lent 

 more confidence than the opinion of any man. Yours, very truly, 

 WINCHESTER KEPEATING AKMS CO.,' 



O. F. Winchester, President. 



P. S.— You will please note that the question for us to answer was 

 the capacity of the links and the pins whieh take the lull force of the ex- 

 plosion to resist that power. We commenced the trial by removing 

 one of the links, or one-half of the strength, and fired twenty charges 

 with only one link or half the resisting power. Then we restored the 

 missing link and proceeded with the test as described, using in the flnnl 

 trial a heavier bullet, weighing 4S0 grains. 



There is no possible mechanism that gives snch powerful resistance 

 to the recoil, or the breaking force of the charge, the links being, when 

 the gun Is in position to be fired, iu a direct fine with the bore of the 

 barrel and coincident with the centre. 



We shall be pleased to reply to any specific inquiries of this kind, and 

 in all such as are capable of demonstration by experiments we have no 

 doubt of being able to give equally satisfactoi-y replies. 



This gun was taken from stock without any selection or attempt to 

 discriminate. Respectfully, O. F. WINOHESTEfi, Pres. 



WINCHESTER RIFLE MODEL 1870, 



TESTED FOR ENDURANCE. 



First Test. Fired twenty times with the left link removed— only one 

 used. Charge, the regular cartridge. Worked well. 



Second. Fired with a charge of 105 grains of Government powder and 

 two bullets. Weight of lead 700 grams. Worked well. 



Third, Fired with a charge of 165 grains of same p&wder and three 

 bullets. Weight of lead, 1,050 grains. Worked well. 



Fourth: Fired with a ch irge of 203 grains of same powder and four 

 bullets. Weight of lead, 1,400 grains. Worked well. 



Fifth. Fired with a chaTge of 2U3 grains oi same powder and five 

 bullets. Weight, 1,780 grams of lead. Worked well. 



Sixth. Fired with a charge of 203 grains of powder and six bullets. 

 Weight of lead, 2,100 grains Breech pin slightly bent. Ann working 

 stiff. 



Seventh. Fired with a charge of 203 grains of same powder and siz 

 Martini bullets of 4S0 grains each. Weight, 2,880 grains. This charge 

 bent the breech-pin, ble^ out the side plates, sprit The frame and 

 otherwise disabled tne arm. RICHARD F. Barb, 



in charge of trial. 



Personally appeared, Richard F. Hare, signer of the foregoing state- 

 ment, who acknowledged the same to be true. 



DAVID H. VEADER, Notary Public 



New Haven, Conn., Oct. 27, 1S77. 



AKW HA.VMN, Conn., Oct. 29, 1S77. 

 CHARLES HALLOCK, ESQ, : 



My Dear Sir-l omitted in my letter of Saturday, to explain why the 

 gun gave out on the seventh trial. It was due to the weakness of tlie 

 cartridge she )1, which is only made and required to stand a charge of 

 75 grains of powder and 360 of lead; a slight increase of weight would 

 mv» made it sufficient lp stand a still larger charge at powder. r n 

 th *'"?smh trial the sheil was burst into fragments, and the escape of 

 ga -i the breech of the gun did all the mlscHief. These biielis can be 

 mi 3e so strong as to resist any amount of powder and ball, but at an 

 entirely uncalled for cost ; the gun would stand the charge. 



Respectfully yoursj O, F. Winchester. 



President Winchester Rep. Arms c»; 



