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Ga.ii/lard Sporting Club — Editor Forest and Stream — It 

 is a custom with as to require each active member of our club 

 to keep a record of game killed during the year— say, from 

 the I5f.li Sep!,, to 15th Sept. To encourage this we offer a 

 prize to the member making the best record. We rate game 

 as follows: Deer, 100; turkeys, 50; geese, 25; ducks, 15; 

 partridge, 5; dove, 5 ; snipe, 10; woodcock, 10; squirrel, 10; 

 rabbit, 10; wild pigeon, 5 ; rail, 1; according to circum- 

 stances, scarcity of game, difficulty of taking, size, etc. Will 

 vou inform me, through your columns or otherwise, if there 

 IB any prescribed rule for rating game as above. If so, will 

 ot please give us the benefit of your - knowledge on the 

 subject. W. T. J. 



Natchez, Mks., Oct. 30, 1877. 



We have, seen various tahles of this character, but think the 

 Gaillard Club have the points quite right However, we shall 

 be pleased to hear from other quarters on this subject. 



A LARGE BUCK. 



Helena, Montana, Oct, , 1877. 

 Editor Forest a-nd Stream : 



As "Sycamore" and "Antler" have regaled your many 

 readers with what they know about deer, their habits, etc., I 

 thought an item from this region concerning them might not 

 be uninteresting. "Antler" relates, with pardonable pride, 

 that he once killed a buck weighing two hundred and twenty- 

 seven pounds. 1 desire to tell you of one that was killed in 

 . i . trinity by Sir. Wm. Ewing (a deer hunter since the days 

 •of the Hint lock) that for size and weight surpassed anything 

 of the kind ever seen or heard of by the "oldest inhabitant," 

 tin anci stor of "Looking Glass" not excepted. 



It was a large buck of the mule (Cervusmacrotis) species, and 

 tipped the beam at two hundred and sixty -three pounds nett. 

 It was a veritable "monarch of the glen," and fought fiercely 

 Bnto the death after being shot. It had a large, splendid set of 

 horns, and its skin when dressed would have made a hunting 

 suit for an average sized man. A great many deer of this 

 species are now being killed within a few miles of this city. 

 At this season of the year vast numbers come down from the 

 high range of the Eocky Mountains (their summer resort), 

 cross the Missouri River near the Bear Tooth Mountain, and 

 seek the low country of the Judith Bas'm and Mussel-shell 

 Eirer to winter in, and there have their young., 



A. P. Piokett. 



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—In Messrs. Remington's window maybe seen a fine eagle, 

 measuring five feet across the wings, shot by Judge Gilder- 

 sleeve this summer in the Green Mountains of Vermont. The 

 king of birds was laid low with a single barrel of a 10-gauge 

 Remington, with a charge of 4^- drachms powder and i^ 

 ounces of BB. 



—All hunting and fishing stories sent to this office must be 

 accompanied by the fish as a guarantee of good faith.— Shen- 

 ango Valley {Pa.) Argus. 



Capital idea. And send him lively proofs of your snake 

 yarns too. 



—Captain Bogardus paid us a visit on Monday. The Cap- 

 taiu is preparing for his greatest effort, proposing to shoot 

 5,000 glass balls in 5,000 minutes,or in 8 hours and 20 minutes. 

 That is, Captain Bogardus is to fire ten shots a minute, be- 

 sides making up for the misses. One gun with two sets of 

 barrels will be used. To accomplish this f usiiade, fifty pounds 

 of powder and upwards, and 500 pounds of shot will be used. 

 One active man in loading up shells would furnish about the 

 requisite amount in three days. We will announce later 

 when and where this-wonderful performance, is to take place. 



Blue Rooks. — Mr. Ira A. Paine has been shooting blue 

 rocks in their native coves off the coast of Ireland. A couple 

 of these handsome birds, in all the lustre of their rainbow 

 tinted necks, came to our office to be forwarded to Green 

 Smith, Esq. The blue rock is the^ personification of a swift 

 flying bird. 



PIGEON MATCHES. 



Dexter Park. L. L, Nov. 5 — Grounds of the Long Island 

 Shooting Club. — Sweepstakes pigeon shoot ; 15 birds each, 25 

 yards rise, 80 yards boundary, X\ ounces of shot ; Long 

 Island club rules' to govern ; 



cwiiiiams l loiitiiiioiii 1—13 



Br Wynne 1 11 I11O0111I11 0—12 



Burroughs t lOllooliliiio 1—11 



idway 1 1101111* 00 1* Oil 1— 11 



Dusten 1 11110* 01110101 o-lo 



GUUeraloeva 1 01110111011000—9 



KWUtiatna 1 011100111*0 1*01 0—9 



Lonsato 1 10 11110* 000101 0—8 



1 0011011001100 0—7 



Hughes 0011110* 0010010— 6 



Same Day— Sweepstakes ; 25 yards rise, 80 yards boundary; 

 Long Island rules to govern ; five birds each s 



I Broadway 1 l 1 1*0—4 Hughes Oil 1—3 



Dr Wyune 10 11 1—3 Burroughs *0 o 1 1—3 



'Sleeve 1 10 1 1—4 Coster 1 10 0—2 



Miles Johnson 1 l t 1—4 Selover u 110 0—2 



Dusten 1 1 1 1—4 Woods 1 1—2 



Ben West 1 1 1 1—4 Williamson 0-0 



* Fell dead out of bounds. The ties divided money. 



^nsweyfr to ijsotirexgondmts. 



No Notice Taken of Anonymous Communications. 



&f~ A number of anonymous correspondents will understand why 

 ! h Ties are not answered, when they read the lines at the head of 

 tolunm. 



Ju . W„ Warren.— Have written to the party and await his reply. 



A. C. J., Rlack Hawk:.— Is Stanley, of the N. T. Mn-ald. n Welshman 

 or an American ? Ans. Stanley was born near Denbigh, Wales, in 1S40. 



<). E. S., Twin Lakes.— Where cau shooting jacks be bought, and what 

 fe the price 7 Ans. Address White Manufacturing Company, Bridge- 

 tonn. 



B. (5. M., Attteboro.— What nook eUall I get in order to learn how to 

 handle a gnn and to lo.id carl ridges ? Ans. " The Spoilsman's Gazet- 

 teer," or '• The Breech-loader" by Gloan. 



S. C, Alpena— All the names yon give are those of first-class makers. 

 Ir becomes a choice simply of action. Good length of barrel is thirty 

 e wrote you about the binding. 



C. W., Boston.— In Torm a subscriber where lie can purchase the juni- 

 per tar soap spoken of in the paper, and the price per dozen or pound ? 

 Ans. $2.25 a dozen ; any wholesale druggist hi this city sells it. 



R. R., Syracuse.— Having read "Hallock's Camp Life in Florida" do 

 the laws there require on steamers an engineer, fireman and pilot? 

 Ans. The law is unchanged. You must have engineer, ilreman and 

 pilot. 



C. S, p„ Lexington, Ky.— WOulrJyou recommend the Orvis rods? Can 



I receive one by mail ? Ans. Ye.s, they are good rods. EoJs in wood 

 cases are sent by mall to any part of the country ; the postage is from 

 thirty-live to tll'ly-live cents. 



3. E. Le O., Philadelphia.— Please give good place for quail -within 

 twenty miles of Philadelphia ; also the best point for duck-shooting on 

 the Delaware within the same distance. Ans. Go to Quakertown, or 

 Sellersville. You will mid good duck-shooting at Lewes, Del. 



F. W. C, Boston.— We are informed by Fish Commissioner Stillwell, 

 of Maine, that the fish taken from the outlet of Ship Pond,at Elliotsville 

 Me , was not the young of the true salmon, as wo surmised in our an- 

 Bwer of October is, but of the land-locked salmon, SaZtno glvrrri. 



It. F. C, East Saginaw.— Do you know of any books which give in 

 atrtustion tor building a small sailing yacht ? Ans. We do not. We are 

 now publishing a series of articles on this topic. Vanderdecken's Yacht 

 Manual instructs in marine architecture, but English modes and size 

 older from ours. 



Crescent, New Orleans.— Pawnbrokers' goods are exceedingly hard 

 to judge. Have seen excellent guns picked up at, times in such places. 

 Pin-fire guns are out of date and are not as good as centre fires. Would 

 not advise your purchasing one. if not so at present, in time pin-fire 

 cartridges will be hard to procure. 



C. H. L., Spring Lake, 111.— What parts of Washington Territory ef- 

 ford the best shooting? What kind of game would I find there? Ans. 

 You will find deer about Vancouver and Port Townsend ; deer and w,ld 

 fowl about Cowlitz ; great numbers of water fowl at Shoalwater Bay. 

 Game is abundant, throughout the territory. 



Clifton Springs.— Please decide the following point as soon as por- 

 sible : A is at the score, has misfire, is challenged, and on examinath n 

 of shell (metal) no fulminating powder is found in cap, which is a Ber- 

 dan primer. Referees decide lost bird. Was decision correct ? Ans. 

 The decision was not correet. A can call for a new bird. 



C. H. W., Croton Landing, N. Y.— 1. In Albemarle Souud is December 

 a good time to go 7 2. What kind of ducks will I find there 7 3. If I 

 go in a schooner could I get good sliootina? Ans. 1. Yes. 2. Canvas- 

 backs, black duck, widgeon, teal, red head, broad bill, with geese and 

 swans. 3. Yes, plenty of good places where cluos do not interfere. 



E. F, II., Alleiitown.— 1. Do you know a remedy for weak eyes ? 2. 

 Who manufactures the Whitney breech-loading shot-gun ? 3. Where 

 are T. Rodger's & Son's knives made 7 Ans. Bathe them in cold water. 

 Do not expose your eyes to glare. Try glasses ; but better consult doc- 

 tor. 2, The Whitney Arms Co., New Haven. See advertisement. 3. 

 Sheffield, England. 



Lieutenant, Baton Rouge, La.— 1. When does my subscription ran 

 out ? 2, In an average breech-loading shot-gun what proportion of the 

 cost of the whole gun is represented by the cost of the barrels ? 3. In a 

 pin-fire, positive action, breech-loader, if the barrels (laminated) cost 

 fifty dollars alone about what is the value of the gun ? Ans. 1. Nov. 24. 

 2. About one half. 3. $100. 



B., Brooklyn.— 1. Is Wisconsin a good place for wild pigeons? 2. 

 How are net traps worked 7 3. Could a young man make a living by 

 hunting and trapping there? Ans. 1. Yes, among the best. 2. The net 

 traps are worked with a cord which is pulled by the snarer ; or are set 

 like the figure four trap. 3. Yes, a living by general hunting and trap- 

 ping, but not more than that. 



J. W., Quincy— I have a 10 gauge gun that shoot3 paper shells ; 10 A 

 brass will not go in, will the 10 B ? or will I hive to have the chamber 

 bored out ? Ans. in A brass shells ought to go into a gun chambered for 

 10 gauge paper shells. 10 B would probably be too small. You might 

 have your chamber enlarged, providing you are sure that your gun will 

 use 10 gauge paper shells now. 



Forest and Stream Sportsmen's Cum op Scranton, Pa.— It is by 

 no means an uncommon occurrence for a young bitch to make bag after 

 her first heat, no matter how privately she may be kept during the three 

 weeks, In Mr. Shepard's case we would advise that the bitch be serv- 

 ed at the next period. It is not a common freak of nature, but there 

 are mauy such cases on record. 



K. K., Haw Branch, N. C— 1. For hunter's tool-chest, address H. K. 

 Sanderson, care Springfield Union, Springfield, Mass. 2. Whitehead's 

 " Camp Fires of the Everglades " gives much useful information about 

 the country of which it treats. 3. The Scientific American iB the b !J 8t 

 publication of its kind. 4. For information about farms near Wi'ming- 

 tpn, write to the editor of the Wilmington Star. There is plenty of 

 sport in the neighborhood. 



Walter, Newark.— By taking a letter of introduction to lower Dela- 

 ware or; Maryland you will find good quail and woodcock shooting in 

 their season. The country is nearly all posted. Take 7 a.m. train fiom 

 Wilmington, Delaware, to Dover, Smyrna, Harrington, Saulsbury, Ber- 

 lin and other places. Board at hotels $1 to $2 per day. Capt. Ayers at 

 Ocean City, six miles below Berlin, has a nice house, and so has Capt. 

 Coffin on Sinapuxent Bay, near Newark, Md. , 



E. T. B., Richmond.— 1. Doyouconsiderthe " Allen" rifle, chambered 

 for the long 38 centre-Are cartridge, a reliable target rifle up to 300 yards? 

 2. Do you know anything about the firm of Turner & Ross, Boston, who 

 advertise a $5.00 rifle in your columns ? Are they responsible ? Ans, l_ 

 It is a good rifle and reliable at the distance you inquire about with the 

 cartridge mentioned. 2. The firm you ask about is perfectly reliable, 

 and for a cheap arm their rifle is quite good. 



A. P. P.— 1. What is the use of the sub-orbital openings ? Does the 

 elk use them when be bugles ? 2. Why does the Winchester rifle, model 

 of '76, no longer use the slide ? Ans. 1. The sub-orbital openings are 

 issues from the lachrymal ducts, and have possibly no other function 

 than to drain eff excess of moisture, or the fluids which lubricate the 

 eyes. No sound could possibly issue from them. 2. This question is 

 answered in the last Issue and In the present number. 



W. D. K , New York.— A setter dog seven years old is troubled with 

 a severe cough, and while coughing tries to vomit, but can very seldom 

 It is a yellowish slime or froth which he vomits. He is a little short 

 winded, also, which I think is the cause of it; he has been troubled 

 with it for about three years. He eats well, and is always willing when 

 Hake the gun. Ans. Your dog evidently has some trouble with his 

 lungs, "and as it is of three > ears duration it must be chronic. From 

 what you say about his short breath and sputa, we should think it 

 might be chronic bronchitis, but it might be Phthisis Pulmonate or con- 

 sumption. If you value your dog verj. much, have his lungs carefully 

 examined by a regular physician, and then give him tonics, etc., accord- 

 to his mala'dy. 



W. W.— t. Can you tell me of any place within ten miles of New 

 York where there is shooting of any kind ? Ans. Snipe and beach birds 

 at Oanarsie and Rockaway. 2. In loading a gun, what effect does it 

 have on t he charge if you put two wads over the powder Instead of one ? 

 Ans. Shoots closer. 3. Is there any place in the city where I could hire 

 a hunting dog for the day or week? If so, where, aud at about what, 

 expense ? Ans. Go to Walter Humphrey, 81 Fulton st. 



.1. S. B., Macon, Ga.— ITow can chalk spots on the cloth ot a billiard 

 table be removed without injury to the texture or color ? Can you give 

 me an authority on making the surgical operatjnn oi^ caponing ? Ana, 

 1. Mr. Phelan informs us that the only way Is to use a brush, out that 

 the fine particles of chalk which get ground into the body of the cloth 

 never can be entirely removed. 2. The Poultry World, Hartford, would 

 be a leading authority. They have published the best process we 

 know of. 



S. C. S., Warren Co.— When does my subscription expire? Is the 

 first week in January a good time to visit Currituck Sound ? What is the 

 cost per week there ? What markings are the handsomest in a lemon 

 and jvhite setter? Ans. 1. We can't find your name on our books; 

 will you please write us again ? 2. Yes, a good time. 3. About $3 to $4 

 a day, all included, if you know how to manage. 4. A subject of great, 

 difference of opinion. Not too much color on the head, we like ; or, if 

 colored, the patches equally distributed. A white and lemon is always 

 an easy dog to see in dim lights. We can not honestly give an ex cathe- 

 dra reply. 



C. L., Phlla.— My two Newfounland pups have been feeding on milk, 

 bread soaked with same, and occasionally a little meat well cooked. 

 They cared little for the milk or bread, out ate ravenously of the meat, 

 gnawed over bones, and after getting a little meat could not be in dnc- 

 ed to eat anything else. A few days since I noticed the male very much 

 distended about the abdomen. Shortly after he vomited considerably, 

 and to-day he vomite ! two worms. Since then he has refused food al- 

 together, moans considerably, is restive, can't find an easy place or po- 

 sition, cries nearly all the time. Ans. Try formula No. T.-of the ' 

 "Sportsman's Gazetteer, ".if it does not succeed go to a good apothecary 

 and have him pulverise and sift very caret ally some common glass, 

 give a tea-spoonful, and in a few hours follow with some laxative. 



A. B. C, Boston.— 1. Does a thoroughbred spaniel have as fine a 

 nose, as a pointer or setter? 2. Can spaniels be taught to stand on . 

 game generally, or only in exceptional and Individual cases ? 3. If they 

 cannot be taught to stand, can they be trained so as to be controlled 

 from flushing the bird— say woodcock or snipe— when their motions 

 show that they are near a bird? 4. Is not the scent of the English 

 snipe weaker than that of most so-called game birds ? 5. Is the spaniel 

 apt to give tongue when striking scent, aad if so, can he be broken of 

 it? Ans. 1. They have. 2. Any dog may be taught, though in the case 

 of the spaniel, it is contrary to their instincts. 3. A well bred spaniel 

 can be controlled. Break him, so that he comes in to call. Of course 

 they will not stand. 4. The question of scent is purely speculative, 

 and impossible to determine. This question has often been fought over 

 in this paper. 5. He does give tongue, but maybe broken, or trained 

 to still hunt. 



PAPER SHELLS. 



Manufactured by the Union Metallic Car- 

 tridge Company, are Superior to any 

 Shells of the Same Grade in this Country 

 or Europe. 



They are sure fire, will not burst to the gun, and are warranted to 

 shoot as well with the same charge of powder as any ghell in the 

 market. A letter published in the Chicago Field, Sept. 22, giving the 

 result of a trial made with No. 12 St. Louis Shells which are claimed to 

 save 25 per cent, of the powder, and give almost no recoil to the gun* 

 and No. 12 Bridgeport Paper Shells, says :— 



" Four of each loaded with 3, 3,y and %% drachms of Laflto & Rand'a 

 powder, and all with IV ounces by weight, or 363 pellets to the charge 

 counted, of No. 7 Chicago shot. Distance 40 yards to muzzle of gun, 

 target a circle 30 inches in diameter, a bull's-eye center, 1% inch circle 

 penetration pads 9y s inches by 11J£, 30 sheets to pad, made of heavy, 

 hardware paper, 30 sheets large enough laid on each other making 24 

 pads. The gun was shot resting across a bag filled with straw. The 

 following is the result : 



ST. LOOTS PAPER SHEEI.S. 



Pellets in 



Pellets in Penetration Pellets in Sheets pene- 



Bnll's Eye, Pad, 9>, by 30 in. circle, tratiou by 3 



IX inch. WA inch. Pellets. 



3 Dr. Powder. 



i K. B 



2 R.B 



f L.B 



U. B 



3!i Dr. Powder. 



1 R. B 



2 R. B 



1 L. B. 



2L. B 



S\i Dr. Powder. 

 2 r! b'.'.'.'.'.'.'.. ".'.'. 



1 L. B 



2L. B.... 



3 Dr. Powder 



1 R. B 



2 R. B 



1 L.B 



2 L. B 



3V Dr. Powder. 



1 R, B 



2 R. B 



1 L. B 



2 L. B 



8 



54 





240 



2 



37 





233 



3 



54 





243 



3 



43 





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7 



18S 





966 



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48 





225 



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30 





210 







16 





120 



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249 











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224 



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561 







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229- 



-572 



993—2,753 



BRIDGEPORT papek shells. 



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25(5 



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248 



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218 



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249 



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215 





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fill 



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2R B 1 6° KM 1* 



1 L. B 1 M *l« IS 



2 L. B ■ ■■• I 48 233 IS 



6—26 220— C18 856—2,762 72—219 



All the shells were loaded prec'aely the Baiue aB near as I could load 

 them, with one black and one pink edge wad over powder, and one black 

 edge wad over shot. I have no comment to make on the relative 

 merits of either shell, the figures stand for themselves. I could see no 

 difference ia the recoil of the paper shells. I think the reliability of 

 the. Bridgeport paper shell is worthy of mention, having used a large 

 number in the past three years without havlngone misuse. X ■ 

 as much for any other paper sheill ever used, - 



