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FOREST AND STREAM. 



SOFT SHOT AND IMPROVED CHILLED 

 SHOT. 



A SERIES OF INTERESTING EXPERIMENTS. 



On Thursday last, at the invitation of Messrs. Tatham, the 

 well-known manufacturers of shot, a representative from the 

 Forest and Stream and Rod and Gun was present at White- 

 stone to witness experiments made with their new improved 

 chilled shot. The trial was with various kinds of guns, and 

 the endeavor was to obtain not as much pattern, but to arrive 

 at some relative comparisons between the penetration of soft 

 and chilled shot. In order that the experiment should be 

 carried out with the utmost fairness the samples of soft shot 

 were made up of brands of No 7 shot taken indiscriminately 

 from various makers, and the Tatham soft shot was mixed 

 with other shot. This method precluded the chances of the 

 selection of any particular shot which might be softer than 

 the Tatham shot. 



Dupont's powder, No. 1, a coarse-grained powder, with 

 'slow-igniting and but moderately-propelling powder, was 

 purposely used. The idea entertained was to place the shot, 

 both soft and hard, with powder most in use, such as is ob- 

 tainable anywhere at a low cost. The charge of powder was 

 4 drachms of powder with a Dixon's charger, and 1{ oz. of 

 No 7 shot, both hard and soft, with 2 pink cartridges over 

 the powder and one over the shot. Eley's shells were loaded in 

 the presence of the representative of this paper, and the 

 measures examined and adjusted by him. In the 1\ oz. of soft 

 shot the pellets averaged some 384, in chilled shot the num- 

 ber of pellets by measure were the same. All the varieties of 

 special makes of guns were used, there being one muzzle- 

 loader the rest being breech-loaders. The pads were manu- 

 factured by Messrs. Dennison & Co., of Boston, and of No. 

 188 Broadway, New York. These pads were 30x30, having 

 a face of thin black tissue paper, the remaining portions of 

 the target being made up of sheets of brown paper, of uni- 

 form thickness and fibre, containing fifty sheets. The dis- 

 tance between the shooter and the pad was exactly 40 

 measured yards. The guns were supported on a wooden 

 tripod, and were adjusted at the pleasure of the person shoot- 

 ing. The following persons were present: Messrs. Wood- 

 ward, Mien, Eddy, Madison, Wingert, Eoster, King, Farrow, 

 Squires, and Comstock. Mr. Richards, a gentleman attached 

 to the 'firm of Messrs. Tatham, and a sportsman himself, 

 superintended all the arrangements. It should be distinctly 

 remembered that this series of experiments was not intended 

 in any -way to bring out pattern, or the character or special 

 qualities of any gun or maker of guns, but rather to get at the 

 penetration of chilled shot when compared with soft shot. 

 Of course some deductions may be made as to the idiosyn- 

 cracies of guns, though of how much value we are not pre- 

 pared to state. Purposely the method of loading the charge, the 

 quality of powder, and the wads were fixed arbitrarily. This 

 was the only plan by which a philosophical deduction could 

 he arrived at. Triia jjo. i-m * Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



S umoer of pellets penetrating wttMn SO-inch circle. 



I s s § s s 



gH,g 



5=5 0$s" 228 215 196 136 



IB'"!? W 2*2 201 112 



££i,"465 453 437 396 24S 



Av^e.2321-2 2261-2 2181-2 198 124 



Percentage of penetration. 



37 1 



40 18 

 77 19 

 381-2 91-2 



97 4-10 94 



RB... 200 184 186 



LB... 203 201 194 



Both. 403 395 380 



Ivge8011-S 1971-2 190 



85 3-10 53 4-10 16 3-10 3 8-10 

 SOFT SHOT. 



155 17 5 



179 101 25 5 



334 178 



167 



15 



RB...255 

 LB... 197 

 Both.. 452 

 AVge 226 



RB...236 

 LB... 173 

 Both.. 469 



262 



440 

 220 



228 

 170 



393 



AVge' 204 1-2 199 



RB... 220 

 LB... 118 

 Both.. 338 

 AVge 169 



30# 



27* 



31H 



RB... 95 

 LB... 105 

 Both.. 200 

 Av'ge 100 



94 

 87 

 181 



53 



139 



80 



54 



52 



100 57 

 . 50 281-2 26 



Percentage of penetration. 



90 5-10 69 5-10 50 28 5-10 3 5-10 



Mr. Wm. King, of Brooklyn, L. I— Muzzle-loader ; 10-bore ; 34-inch 

 barrel ; 9)£ lba. weight. 



Trial No. 5— No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



97 91 53 7 .. .. 28 



160 132 46 9 .. .. 28 



257 223 99 16 .. .. 56 



1281-2 1111-2 491-2 8 .. ..28 



Percentage of penetration. 



RB... 98 

 LB... 166 

 Both.. 264 

 AV'ge. 132 



166 

 264 

 132 



RB... 171 

 LB... 175 

 Both.. 346 

 Av'ge. 173 



100 



158 

 166 

 324 

 162 



37 



45 

 72 

 36 



26/ 2 



97 7-10 84 



SOFT SHOT. 

 158 110 



147 113 



305 223 



152 1-2 111 1-2 

 Percentage of penetration. 

 93 6-10 90 7-10 641-10 20 810 2 

 Chas. Wingert, Secretary of L. I. Club, Brooklyn— W. & C. Scott & 

 Son's gun ; Premier quality ; 10-bore ; 8% lbs. ; 30-inch barrel. The 

 shells used in the RB were not crimped. 



Trial No. 6— No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



22s 



RB... 97 

 LB... 232 

 Both.. 329 

 Av'ge 164 1-2 161 1-2 



93 



67 



160 



17 



RB... 171 

 LB... 154 

 Both.. 325 

 Av'ge. 162 1-2 



218 160 28 



311 227 45 



_ 1551-2 1131-2 221-2 



Percentage of penetration. 



981-10 914-10 68 8-10 13 4-10 



SOFT SHOT. 

 171 

 148 

 319 

 159 1-2 154 



141 

 73 



47 5 



28 1 



75 6 



37 1-2 3 



Percentage of penetration. 



981-10 95 66 22 5-10 1 S-10 



Schoverling & Daly— Daly Gun ; 10-bore choke ; 8% lbs. weight; 30- 

 inch barrel. 



Trial No. 7— No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 

 225 220 191 66 4 .. ..27 



214 204 156 69 22 5 3 38 



439 424 347 135 26 .. .. 65 



2191-2 212 173 1-2 671-2 13 .. .. 32y 2 



Percentage of penetration. 

 9S6-10 95 5-10 77 9-10 30 4-10 5 8-10 11-10 6-10 

 SOFT SHOT. 

 193 189 148 51 3 .. ..29 



206 189 154 71 10 1 . . 30 



399 378 302 122 13 .. .. 59 



1991-2 189 151 61 61-2 .. .. 29# 



Percentage of penetration. 

 97 5-10 92 1-10 74 30 31-10 5-10 



Mr. A. Eddy, President'of L. I. Club, Brooklyn, L. I.— Nichols & 

 Let ever gun ; 10-bore ; 30-inch ; 9 lbs . 



Trial No. 8— No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



RB... 229 

 LB. . . 215 

 Both.. 444 

 Av'ge. 222 



RB... 201 

 LB... 208 

 Both.. 409 

 Av'ge 204 1-2 



RB... S3 

 LB.. . 123 

 Both.. 206 

 Av'ge 103 



79 



69 



27 4 



1 



19,1 



98 



59 20 



2 



9,(10 



167 



S6 24 



3 



100 



831-2 



43 12 



11-2.. 





Percentage of penetration. 





97 



81 



417-10 116-10 



14-10 





SOFT SHOT. 





118 



93 



54 5 



2 



124 



120 



100 41 



5 



242 



213 



154 46 



7 



121 



' 1011-2 



77 23 



31-2 . 



RB... 118 

 LB... 124 

 Both.. 242 

 Av'ge 121 



Percentage of penetration. 

 100 87 6-10 63 6-10 19 2 7-10 



Mr. Woodward— Wm. Moore gun ; 12-bore ; 30 inch barrel ; 7% lbs. 

 weight. 



Summary of Eight 1 Trials of Tatham's Improved "Chilled" Shot vs. 

 Soft Shot— Eight Different Guns. 



Percentage of Penetration. 



Trial 

 Trial 

 Trial 

 Trial 

 Trial 

 Trial 

 Trial 

 Trial 



/Chilled.. 97 4-10 



iSoft 98 



' Chilled.. 97 3-10 



,92 9-10 

 .98 5-10 

 .96 4-10 

 .90 5-10 

 100 



..93 6-10 

 .98 1-10 

 .9S1-10 

 .98 6-10 

 97 5-10 



83 3-10 53 4-10 16 3-101 



*o-H™ 



„ n -J Chilled 

 No - 5 1Soft.... 

 t^^ „ (Chilled 

 No - 6 |soft. .., 



94 5-10 



83 1-10 



44 3-10 



7 4-10/ 



93 3-10 



88 



51 7-10 



9 7-10)OhOke 



95 0-10 



76 



28 



3 4-10 1 Bore. 



!H W-10 



88 1-10 



46 7-10 



6 5-10 12-bore. 



7S 5-10 



60 



23 5-10 



5 



92 8-10 



82 



56 



20 



69 5-10 



60 



2S510 



3 5-10 



97 7-10 



84 



37 



6 



90 7-10 



04 1-10 



20 8-10 



2 



914-10 



68 8,10 



13 4-10 



9-101 Choke 

 1 8-10/ Bore. 



95 



66 



22 5-10 



95 5-10 



77 9-10 



30 4-10 



5 8-10 



92 1-10 



74 



30 



3 1-10 



81 



417-10 



116-10 



1 4-10 



87 6-10 



63 6-10 



19 



2 7-10 12-bore 



Percentage of penetration. 

 »B 94 5-10 831-10 44 2-10 7 4-10 12-10 



Mr Comstock-E. Remington & Sons' gun; bore No. 10; 30-lnch 

 barrel • 9X N>8. weight. New improved choke. 

 Trial No. 2-No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



251 226 130 18 1 ..31 



172 172 104 26 3 



423 398 234 44 4 



2111-2 199 HT 22 2 



Percentage of penetration. 



97 3-10 93 3-10 88 51 7-10 9 7-10 9-10 

 SOFT SHOT. 



228 191 81 14 1 



162 119 34 



390 310 115 



195 155 571-2 .. 



Percentage of penetration. 



98 95 6-10 76 28 3 4-10 



Mr. H.C. Squires-Greener gun; choke-bore No. 10 ; 9% lbs. ; 30-- 

 inch barrel. 



Trial NO. 3— No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



200 200 191 87 3 2.. 30 



114 112 108 71 20 14 ..33 



314 312 299 158 23 16 



167 156 149 1-2 79. 111-2 8 



Percentage of penetration. 



92 9-10 92 8-10 88 1-10 46 7-10 6 5-10 4 7-10 



SOFT SHOT. 



136 134 119 63 15 .. .. 27 



140 87 21 3 20 



276 221 140 66 47 



138 110 1-2 70 33 23>sJ 



Percentage of penetration. 



98 5-10 78 5-10 50 23 5-10 5 



Dr H F Aten, Vice-President of L. I. Clnb, Brooklyn— W. & C. 

 Scott & Son's gun ; 12-bore ; 7}f lbs. ; 30-inch barrels; premier qual- 

 ity ; shells were not crimped. 



Trial tfo. 4— No. 7 Shot. 



CHILLED SHOT. 



LADIES IN CAMP. 



EDITOB FOREST **D STREAM i ° HHUfl °' ^ U ' 1S78 " 



In a recent issue of the Germantown Telegraph I noticed a letter from 

 a lady, urging ladies to accompany their husbands on their fishing trips 

 —she had been there, and knew how good it was. We indorse every- 

 thing she says, and heartily commend her ideas to every brother fisher- 

 man who is blessed with a wife, or a lady who will soon be his wife. 

 Ladies certainly cannct push through the brush,or wade up our northern 

 trout streams, but they can fish from a boat, or even cast a fly for bass 

 at the mouth of the creek, or along the lake shore among the lily-pada. 

 I know of one lady who,every summer, packs her fishing tackle with her 

 husband's, and as soon as it gets too hot to sleep well in trie city, they start 

 north for the trout streams. You will often lind her at the mouth of a 

 famous trout stream, casting her flies as deftly as the most practiced 

 fisherman, while her husband is up stream, and she takes as many flah 

 as a scrambling, nervous fisherman would— womanlike, » she is having 

 a good time." I think she is proud of being sun-tanned, for she only 

 protects her face with a broad-rrmmed straw hat, not using gloves. 



By all means let them go with us ; they need rest as well as we do," and 

 the pure fresh air is better medicine than any physician can prescribe for 

 them. Bye the bye, what has become of the writer of those interesting let- 

 ters that used to appear in the old Rod and Ghn under the caption " A 

 Lady in Camp ? " She wielded a charmed pen, and the fingers that 

 could fix the wigglers to lure the cutming fish to fill her creel, also inter- 

 ested many an enthusiastic fisherman. Norman. 



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PIGEON MATCHES. 



Long Island Shooting Club.— There was an unusually 

 large number of contestants at the regular monthly shoot of 

 the club at Dexter Park, L. I., last Friday. There was a new 

 system of handicapping, based upon the general marksmanship 

 of the competiting members. The day was favorable, the 

 birds strong flyers, and the score a good one. The conditions 

 were : Seven birds each, from H and T trap ; handicapped 

 rise, 80 yards boundary; l£ oz. shot ; Long Island Shootine 

 Club rules ; ties shot off at three birds. 



,.97 

 100 



£f"°,™b° f J Chilled.. 97 2-10 92 8-10 77 37 4-10 8 3-10 



of all eight i Soft 968 " 10 8T 9 ~ 10 658 " 10 2T1 " 10 3 6 ' 10 



trials. I 



The number of pellets counted were those within a 30-inch 

 circle, on every fifth sheet ; the circle drawn before the gun 

 was fired. Taking the number of pellets which penetrated 

 the first sheet as a basis, the "percentage of penetration" 

 shows the percentage of that number penetrating every fifth 

 sheet thereafter. The result of the trial shows both pattern 

 and penetration in favor of " chilled " shot. Soft shot being 

 jammed out of shape before leaving the muzzle of the gun, 

 many fall short of the target or fly off out of range. 

 " Chilled" shot, retaining their spherical form, consequently 

 make a better pattern. Soft shot flatten as they enter, retard- 

 ing their penetration. The soft shot found in the targets 

 were all flattened, while the "chilled" shot were found to re- 

 tain their original shape. Chilled shot seems to be equally 

 well adapted to choke-bores, modified choke and cylinders. 

 The superiority of Tatham's improved chilled shot, over the 

 English, was apparent in its beautifully clean and bright 

 finish, its* uniformity of size, spherical form and freeness from 

 shrinkage, the latter being a constant defect with English 

 chilled shot. 



Eddy 23 yards l 



A Holt 21 ' 



Gordon 21 



Gildersleeve 25 



Dr Wynne 25 



C Williams 25 



Blankley 21 



Brown 25 



H Miller 21 



Lamphear 21 



Madison 25 



A Hance 23 



GHolt 21 



Thompson 21 



Henderson 25 



Chappell 21 



C Hance 27 



WMParks 21 



Rivers 23 



Walters 21 



R Robinson 23 



Harrison 21 



B West 25 



U? * ? 



1111 



1 



1 *0 1 



u *0 

 



*0 



1 



1 *0 1 



1 1- 



1 ■■-« 

 1 





1 1-7 

 1 1—7 

 1 1-7 

 1 1-fl 

 1 1—6 

 1 1—0 

 1 1-6 



1—6 



1 1-6 

 1 *0— 6 



1 1—5 

 110-6 



1 1-6 



1 1 1-5 



1—6 



1 1 1—5 

 1 *0 0-5 

 1 1 0-^t 

 1-1 1-4 

 1 1 0—1 

 111-4 

 1 1 *0— 4 

 1 0—3 



RB...189 

 LB.. .141 

 Both.. 280 

 AV'ge 140 



RB...108 

 LB. ..114 



Both.. 222 

 AT'ge 111 



1<H 

 »a 



'2L,l 



1W 



S2 



22 

 28 



113 



206 182 124 45 9 



103 91 62 221.2 41-2 



Percentage of penetration. 

 96 4.10 92 8-10 82 56 20 8 6-10 



2 35 



.. 80 



.. 65 



■■ mi 



Messes. Holbehton & Co.'s Removal to Bettee Quar- 

 ters.— The Sportsman's Emporium established some years 

 ago by Mr. G. Eaton (Jacobstaff) has outgrown its former 

 locality, and is about removing to the first floor of No. 117 

 Fulton street, in this city. With more ample quarters, in 

 which to exhibit their new stock, they, will continue to keep 

 on hand everything which the sportsman can want ; in fact, 

 a full assortment of Camping, Fishing and Shooting goods. 

 Mr. Holberton and his partner being both old sportsmen, 

 thoroughly familiar with all the places where game is found, 

 have special capabilities in furnishing the exact equipments 

 which certain localities require.— See advertisement. 



* Fell dead out of bounds, 



t Gun at half-cock. 



Ties on seven. 



Eddy l l i_8 Gordon l * -o 



AHolt 1 1 0—2 



Mr. Hughes (25 yards) shot at 5, killed 2; Atkins (23), 

 killed 1 out of four; Charman (21), 2 out of 3; Hemming, (21), 

 2 out of 4 ; Nelson (23) and Murphy (21.) Each shot at and 

 missed 2, and Smith (25) shot at and missed 1. 



_ Same Day— Match $20, between West and Harrison ; ten 

 birds each ; West, standing at 21 yards rise, gives Harrison" 

 standing at 23 yards rise, three dead birds out of ten; L. I. s' 

 C. rules. 



J* West 21 yards l 1 1 1 1 l o 1 1 1—1 1 1— 12 



Harrison 23 yards 1 IIOIH11 1— 0-10 



Referee— Dr. Wjnue. 



Several sweepstakes closed as good a day's sport as the club 

 has ever enjoyed. 



Brown's Ocean Parkway, L. I., Jan. 29.— Pigeon shoot- 

 ing, 7 birds each, 21 yards rise, 80 yards boundary ; Long 

 Island rules ; ties shot off at 3 birds each. 



H Miller 1 111111—7 JTSlaae 1 l'O 1*0 1—4 



McMauon 1 01111 1—6 Cleaver i*u 1-0 1 1—4 



DeFrane 1 1 1 1 1*1— 5 Liviugston 1 1 0*0 1*0—3 



Hanson 1 10 11 1*0-5 Jones l'O 1 1*0—3 



O'Connor 1*0 1 1 1 1—5 Sheridan 0*0 1 1 1—3 



Tie on five. 



DeFrane 111—3 Hanson 101 2 



O'Connor 1 1— 2 



Referee— Mr. W. Brown. 



First German Hunting Club.— Match at Creedmoor 

 January 16; ten birds each : 



CBraun 8 HFicken a 



Fr Schaller 9 L Marsch 7 



JBohling 9 ADeinmerle '.'.'.'.'..'. "5 



JHay 6 J Klein a 



HBerlau h J Kunz '7 



J G Klein 6 ChNagel '..'.'.'.'. "...5 



Ties shot off— Bohling, 1st; Schollar, 2d; Ficken, 3d. 



Pennsylvania.— Horsham, Jan. 21.— Match for a 700-lbs 

 hog; birds strong flyers; five birds, 21 yards, Rhode Island 

 rules : 



SamCloston 1 1 1 Ow— 3 Benj Davis 1 111 i_s 



GeoGilbert 1 Ow DavMott Ow 



GeoPierson 1 111 1—5 satnCloaton 1 



JoeFelton 0w Dav Mott 1 1 lw 



CLLukens Ow H Homiller 1 Ow 



Theo Herman 0w Tom Greenwood 1 111—5 



Ties on five. 



Davis 1 0—1 Pierson. 1 1 i_3 



Greenwood Ow 



Philadelphia, Jan. 21. — Match at ten birds each, 21 yards 

 rise, 80 yards boundary. 



P Giberson 



SK Howard 1 1 



OBMeirs 1 



KImley 1 1 



G Giberson : 1 1 



HStewart 1 1 



J C Norton 



J Schuyler 1 1 



DWPullen 1, u 



J D Norton 1 



PConover 



J M Pullen 



1 



1 



1.1 



1 







1 



1—5 



1 



1 



1 



1 1 



1 



1 



0- 9 



1 



i> 



1 



1 



1 



1 



1-7 







1 



1 



1 (1 



1 



1 



1—8 



1 



1 



1 



1 1 



1 



1 



1-10 







1 



1 



1 1 



1 



1 



1—9-48 



1 



1 



1 



1 







1 



1- 6 



1 



1 



u 



1 1 



1 



1 



0-9 



1 



il 



1 



1 1 











0-4 



10110100 1— ( 

 00111111— t 

 110 11111— S-40 



New Jersey Gun Club.— A handicap shoot last Thursday 

 was followed by reception at the club rooms. Following is 

 the score : 



Uepsley 21 yds 1 101 1 11 011 1111 1 1 001 1— in 



Bark 18 yds OllllOllOllOOlloilO l_i 8 



Pearson 21 yds 0111101 llll OOliim 1— 16 



Sanders 20 yds 1 ll 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 0—15 



Hughes ......19 yds 0101 01111 1111111 i_u 



1 smith 18 yds lioooiiooinoilini 0-12 

 Ties Bhot off. 

 Hepalev 1 111—4 Pearson 1 1 1 1 i_« 



