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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Aphil 6, 1882, 



himself, and succeeded in landing the fish alone. The 

 length of the skiff in which it 'was brought into the 

 lown of Nino-urn is 16 feet. When dressed it weiglied 71 

 pounds; the head weighed 81, the fat weighed 29, 

 ■'in. fins and cnfrafls 19; The Ash was gold 

 hi Buffalo, 1ST. V., at 5Jc. per pound, realizing $3.00. Sup- 

 po*o thai gturgeon had hauled tho man overboard, wouldn't 

 Ik hive made it lively forhiih? 



Saimo <>>Nin\-rs.— Our correspondent "Stahstead/ 1 of 

 Buckingham, Quebec, writes: "The trout that E. 8. ]\I. men- 

 tions, in your issue of the Kith, is a Salmo ron finis, and the 

 'gray i rout' aiv same as so called 'Silver Lunge' of Magog 

 Lake, and are Oriel ivonur numat/cmh." the 8, confirm, of 

 DeRay. has never been found by any other naturalist, and is 

 belli red to be 8 name given by him to one deformed speci- 

 men of the namcn/i-ush. There are but two lake fronts now- 

 known to naturalists, the simnrd and the v.uni/ujcv.sh. The 

 former inhabits Lake Superior and some of the lower lakes. 

 and the latter is the common lake trout which goes by many 

 local names, and differs greatly in color. Thti'SmUWiniah 

 Institution would much like 'a specimen of ..s'. confinis, if it 

 can be found. 



Salmon at NewT-Iamfton.— Plymouth, March 33.— There 

 should be a good chauce for saimo'n fishing on this the Pemi- 

 gewaasetana Merimack Pi vers this spring. I do not know 

 Whether they will take a fly as Par up as this or not, but I am 

 afraid that by the lime they get up here water will be so clear 

 I hat they will not rise. I have tried them, but have not been 

 able to raise, one, although I have whipped a pool for an hour 

 in which 1 could see them; but then I have done the same in 

 Che Restigouche for a day at a time, without a single break. 

 ] think the best ground will be between ('uncord and Man- 

 chester, and at OoflV Falls. If you wish. 1 will let you 

 know when the flsh come at Lawrence. — IIodye. 



One Of Thai) Xucuis'-. li.M :sis. -Sum- years ago the 

 head of ii.].; v.- iter of th; Sterjykill il fan lncunl wse: a good 

 ground for all our varieties of fresh-water fish, and Uncle 

 TImd Noma could be frequentlyscen there angling for perch 

 and such. It was acre he used to catch an occasional shad 

 and pearl minnow. Now all lb" fish caught there taste of 

 the villainous coal tar and oilier abominations, with which 

 ihe water is impregnated from the gasworks and coal oil 

 refineries situated on the bank- of the river ai several points. 

 Poach and perch are by no means so plentiful there as in the 

 past.— Homo. 



West Vnaw\i v. -A correspondent says: I am afraid the 

 dry season lasl year has had a bad effect on the fishing pros- 

 pect Epl' this, t hear from a district in West Virginia, where 

 1 have often ftslicd and thought of fishing again this year, that 

 many (rout died last summer from the extreme heal" and the 

 low water, — C; 0. 



rtfislinilhirc. 



THE AMERICAN F1SHCULTURAL ASSOCIATION. 



l-IRKT MAY (11" Kl.EVENTII ANNUAL MEETING. 



THE hour appointed for the meet in.", in the rooms of the 

 Directors of the Fulton Market fishmongers' Association 

 was 11 A. M. on April :;, but the President not appearing the 

 members waited an hour, and then by request the Vioe-Presi- 

 dem. M.i\ CteorgeShepnrcl Page, called the meeting to order. 

 Mr, Pa emadeso remarks upon the regular attendance of 



They were men who not only k pi themselves informed upon 

 all progress iu Cahoultnre- from year to year, but made it a 

 point to know of its pi-ogres- from week to week. He was 

 glad to see that, there were evidences of progress on every 

 hand, and on mspecting the fishes in the market he had 

 noticed that shad are bewailing fco be plenty from all the 

 rivers, a result which he attributed largely to the efforts of 

 this association, asit was largely through its efforts that an 

 interest iii nshcultu ehad beenawakened and a fishery com- 

 mission for the United States created. The trout exhibition 

 which the members had just seen illustrated the extent of 

 Gskculture. Trout were being largely cultivated in all favor- 

 able localities, and might yet be supphedata figure which 

 would place them within the reach of people who cannot 

 afford bo buy them now. Within tho memory of members 

 presenl the first black basswas transported over the Balti- 

 more and Ohio Railroad from Wheeling Creek to Cumberland 

 in the tank of ;t locomotive tender and turned into the 

 Potomac. They have gradually been introduced East, until 

 within the par-;, ten years they are common in Maine and are 

 round in plentiful numbers on the fish stalls of the interior 

 towns, lb- remembered that in 1869 thirty-one black bass 

 were planted in a lake in Maine, and their progeny is to be 

 seen bo-day in a hundred lakes and si reams of bhe State. 

 They are replacing the pike ot pickerel, and are sold in the 

 markets in some seasons as low as eight to ten cents per 

 pound. 



The Secretarj was bhen called on for a report of the last 

 meeting. Hen td Eke amendment allowing ot the election of 

 honorary a thbors, and the action was approved. Mr. 

 then offered lihe following; 



Resolved, Thai in future the following order of business be 



adopted in the ■: I'.i'.ili: 



1ST DAT. 



Opening remark by I i President, 



Report of Secret brj on last mooting. 



Proposalsof m <n members. 



Reading of papers and discussions. 



Election of new m sobers by acclamation. 



Recess. 



Election of < illiee.rs for ensuing year by ballot. 



Reading of papers and discussions. - 



2d day. 

 Proposals of aew members, 

 Reading of papers and discussions. 



Election <>! new mbers by acclamation. 



Recess. 



Rejiort of Treasurer. 



Reading of papers. 



Adjournment. . 



■ vkts proposed to amend the section relating to the 

 , . -. -i ;. > 1 1 of officers bj making those wbioh a*e largely honor- 

 . ,. v ; . " 1 1 . , ■ President and /ice-President, vacant after one 

 yuaramd bho im ini 

 uuiil al t ■ - 1 an ■ 



Ti;.- 1 ;';;": . "proposed. prof. Alfred 



Maver Stevens tology, Hoboken. Lieut. H. 



B. Mansfii Id, If. 3. f.avy, Ool. M- -McDonald, U. S.JFish Com- 



TltE Secbetakt then read a paper on "The Habit*. Endur- 

 ance and Growth of Carp/'by H. It. HcGovern, which with 



■ papers will appear afterward. 



Mr bred Mather read a paper entiled "A bemnrkable 

 mant of Embryo Salmon,' 1 



lot- the same offlco 

 .-• amendment was ac- 



TJpon the opening of the afternoon session. Mi-. Miheritominat- 

 cdMr. George Bhepard Page for Presidenl. and upon a ballot he 

 was elected. Mr. Blackford said that .Mr. Page bad don,. 

 much for nshcultnre in a quiet Way. It Wasms 

 i liu ; 1,.- United States appomt a Commissioner oi F 

 and as a result We have the splendid corps under direction of 

 Professor Baird. Mr. Mather then named .lame-. Benkard tor 



v; President, and be was elected Upon I 



marked that it had often been asserted in the press that 'l rout 



can i ie raised at a profit for market, but lint the South 



Side Sportsman's Club, of which Mr, Benkard is President, 

 will in addition to leaving all that the members wish to catch, 

 market 4.1)00 pounds, winch will sell for SM.OOO. 



For Treasurer Mr. Blackford named Mr. Evarts. and ifr. 

 Annin named Mr. Blackford. The latter wa- elected, and Mr. 

 Evarts moved that it be made unanimous. Mr. Barnet .Phillip- 

 was then elected Corresponding Secretary, and Mr. James 

 Annin, Jr., Recording Secretary. The following gentlemen 

 were elected as the Executive Committee: Messrs. Fred. 

 Mather, G. Brown GoOde. Beth Weeks. Benj. \\ . West. J. B. 

 Ferguson, C. IS. Evarts, Dr. W. M. Hudson. 



Messrs. W. L. Gilbert, of Ph-mouth. Mass, ; Erastua Corning, 

 Albany, N. Y.; H. P. Schuyler, Troy, N. Y. : John f. Agnew, 

 Charles Banks, and P.enjnuiin Wood] of Mew York, andC. W. 

 Smiley, of tho U. S. Fish Commission, were elected mem- 

 ber-. 



Mr. Annin read a paper on ''Rainbow Trout, 1 ' winch was 

 followed by a long discussion, and the meeting adjourned. 



ghe gcnml 



FIXTURES. 



BENCIT SHOWS. 



April 18, 19, SO and 31— New fork, Sixth Annual Bench Show of the 

 Westminster Kennel ciuh. Entries dose April 8. G'has. Lincoln, 

 Supertnl lent 



Via-, n, in. ii anil iv! Itesioa. Mass. Third Bench-Show of the Massa- 

 chusetts Kennel Club. l.'li.-is. Lincoln. Superintendent ; Iv K. Hardy, 

 Keei-etar.v KvliibiUon Committee, P. 0. Box tViKi, liosion. Kiiirics 

 close April 2a. 



June I), V. 8 and 9.— Cleveland, 0., First Annual Bench Show of tho 

 Cleveland Bench Show Association. Charles Lincoln, Superintendent; 

 C. SI. Muuliall, Secretary. 



FIELD TRIALS. 



September— National American Kennel Club Field Trials on Prairie 

 Chickens. Jos. II. Dew, Columbia. Term., Secrctarv. 



December 4— National American Kennel Club Field Trials on Quail, 

 Grand Junction, Tenn. D. Bryson. Memphis, Tenn., Secretary. 



t of your deposit money, 

 >py of the Keuuel Club 



LAVERACK PEDIGREES. 



E give below the decision of the Kennel Club committee 

 regarding Mr. Llewellin's protest of the dog Comet, 

 with bis reply to the same. 



COPY OF I.ETTEE FROM KENNEL CLUB. 



Sm— I beg to enclose £1 . the 

 re. Comet. 1 also forward yo 

 committee's resolution on the s 



' 'The committee of the Kennel Club, having very carefully 

 considered the subject, and after a thorough perusal of Mr. 

 Laverack's own letters on the matter, and corroborative evi- 

 dence produced by Mr. Llewellm, decline to affirm the correct- 

 ness of Mr. Laverack's pedigrees or his pedigree tables. 

 Nevertheless, whereas certain dogs have been generally 

 known, both in Great Britain and America as pure Laver- 

 acks. whereby the term has acquired a certain recognized 

 and conventional meaning, and whereas Pride of the Border, 

 and all the other ancestors of Comet have been habitually so 

 described, therefore tho committee is of opinion that Comet 

 was entitled to compete in a class limited to pure La vei -aoks, 

 and that. Mr. Dowers was acting within his strict rights in 

 showing the dog in such a class." — You r.s la i t h i u 1 1 v , 



Hy. James 'Stephen. 



B, LI. Purcell Llewellin, Esq. 



TO THE OOMJUTTEE Of TIIK I-: K.VNI'.I, CLTTB. 



Gentlemen— I am in receipt of your letter containing the 

 statement of your decision re my protest. 



1 also beg to acknowledge yoiir check for £1, in repayment 

 of my deposit, which I paid in on tirst entering my protest, in 

 accordance with your rule, and which deposit, owing to the 

 on, you have returned to me. 



The definition of -"pure Laverack," now made by the com- 

 mittee, has been made since I lodged my protest, and was 

 made on March 7, i. e., three months alter the date of the 

 Alexandra Palace show, at which show they instituted a class 

 for "pure Lav-cracks," without at that date in any way defin- 

 ing the term. 



The. fact that they gave no definition of "pure, Lav eracks," 

 proves that at that date thev accepted the commonlv under- 

 stood definition as universally recognised by setter breeders, 

 and were therefore bound io hear the case under it, and no 

 other. It is plain that if a new definition had r 

 subsequent to the (late, of inyprotest. and during 

 of the inquiry, it would have been impossible f 

 of the Border as "pure Laverack." What w 

 understood by the term "pure Laverack" is well known, and 

 has been stated in an editorial note in Tlie Field of March 4, 

 as follows: 



"The question really is (irrespective of Mr. Laverack's ver- 

 acity), not whether they are pure setter*, out whether they 

 aro fired from one brace of setters (Ponto and old Moll)." 





A-lelhe 



t be new ki'ii- 



cderstood one. 

 inasmuch as I 

 idigrees for the 

 les of sporting 



ite line of evi- 

 »r allowing my 

 ted, and which 

 it— although in 

 look under the 

 orpomtingout 

 anel Club .Stud 



It does not matter in the least to 

 ii. -I Chili definition, or the old and commo 

 of the term "pure Laverack" is accepted; 

 brought forward the matter of the Lavera 

 purpose of the general improvement of il 

 dogs, so soon as 1 became possessed of a c< 

 deuce, and, further, as I have been attacl 

 dogs to I race to pedigrees which you have 

 you now decline, to aftirni the correct! 

 allowing them to appear in your Kennel C 

 authority of the remark, "bvrh.i !l\ .xehi 

 all doubtful pedigrees" (see Preface, vol. i 

 Book,) you have actually affirmed the correctness of the [iedi- 

 arees—Tvjjl you, therefore, in the next volume of the Stud 

 Hook, emboli v the statement you have now made to me, and 

 through that medium convey to the public the knowledge 

 which I have given you of the fact that Mr. Laveraek knew 

 of a difference in purity of blood between hiB Dash ami .Molls 

 and all ..the.-; he, in the spring of lsr.-.'. hud in his kennel; and 

 further stale that his kennel contained at that time '• ride of 

 the Border, Blue Prince, the n-'\ ones. Mystery, Ruby, and 

 othersof the litter which was stated io he by Jet Out of Duch- 

 ess, and quote Mr, Laverack's words, "We cannot come at the 

 genuine pure breed now Moll is gone." and the quotation 

 in which he gives tho history of the red ones, aud bis expla- 

 nation of the color? 



The Kennel Club, as the publishers of the only Kennel Si u.t 

 Book, arc responsible, to the public, and the pnblio 

 that the Kennel Club shall place all the information they po 

 sess reflecting on pedigrees in jnytaposil on t i the pedigrees 

 concerned. 



If the Kennel Club agree in this opinion I shall consider my 

 protest has fully answered its purpo-.e. If, on bh 

 do not. I, for one, .-hall in the future i 

 of adopting then? errors, which would fall on me uj 

 of allowing dogs bred by me t ) trace to their Stud B 

 am fully prepared for any possibjfl depreciation tomj kennel 

 which lie. I .-. R b'.. I'na ia.i, I.i.kw r.i.i.iN. 



South Qbmsby Hall, Lhicolshire, March U. 



We give herewith the further correspondence on the subject, i 

 Mr. bh-weiiin writes to the London Meld: 

 Siu— 1 regret to see thai you hav.- allowed some unknown 



All i hai is known of Mr. Herzberg is that he is the owner of 



Laverocks.", and which owe their origin to Pride Of the border 

 -ffino ilke lachrymal 



Tic charges be brings against Mr. Buckell and myself prove 

 what he himself would be capable of. I resent bis reflection! 

 on Mr. Htickell, whose disinterested admiration for all good 

 dogs is beyond Mr. Herzberg's comprehension. It is bar. II v 

 necessary for me to inform your readers that Mr. Buckell is a 

 gentleman, and that his relations to me arc not as insinuated 

 by Mr. Herzberg. 



Mi*. Herzberg's reference to my breed of setters is made 

 with the object of misleading. The real facts are thai my 

 name was bestowed upon them by no others than Mr. Herz- 

 berg-s own countrymen some years ago, alter a conference on 

 the subject, held by the owners of the best setters in bis 

 country, and that he knows very well 



Every statement in this person's letter is either made with 

 intent to mislead or is absolutely false. His reference to Mri, 

 buckell, to mvsclf. to the pretended concealment of the color i 

 of Carlowitz, all are absolutely false. 



The reason the color of Carlowitz does not appear iu the 

 K, 0. Stud Book is doubtless the same that caused the next 

 entry from my kennel to be inserted with the wrong color. I 

 refer to that of the well-known Druid. It is a q uestion be- 

 tween Mr. Herzberg aud the compiler of the Stud Book, and 

 not for me, 



Carlowitz was "publicly exhibited" by me in this country, 

 and won — a fact which is recorded on the same page, which 

 Mr. Herzberg quotes to prove concealment of color, and which 

 fact he has suppressed. 



AVe now come to what he considers his pi&Ca de resistance, 

 and. judging by the pains he is at to lead up to it. and the 

 import ant air with which he brings it forward, it is plain he 

 trusts to it to completely demolish my position on the 0O8«S 

 f refer to his statement relating to Carlowitz's color, "and Qti 

 this formidable fact (as he seems to regards it) he basea an 

 argument which would uaturallv be the lirsl simple thought 

 Of a child's mind on the subject. In reply to all this absur- 

 dity, permit me to say that the Bubject of the liver and white 

 color of Carlowitz was introduced by me before [lie 

 committee of the Kennel Club, in my evidence against the 

 purity of Pride of the Border; and amongst other things "t 

 which Mr. Herzberg seems to have no idea. 1 proved thai my 

 old bitch Countess was not by Dash If. out of Moll III. There- i 

 lore this fact, so Tar from telling against me. actually adds to 

 the chain of evidence I had already put in in support, of my 

 ease. 



Perhaps Mr, Herzberg had better first barn the correct 

 pedigrees of the dogs he has in his own kennel, and advertises 

 so largely at the pulilic stud, before he meddles with what is 

 beyond him: and when he has thus gained this elementary ; 

 knowledge, it would be lietler for him to write fact than to 

 quibble about the construction of sentences. 



Mr. Herzberg, and the rest of those who hav wrttten in 

 support of the purity of Pride of the Border, belong, u seem-., 

 to an unfortunate class— they are theorists, who have gone so 

 deep into the abstract that they have lost t hemselves, got out 

 of their deiith, and cannot distinguish between theory and 

 practice. Whilst they thud: they nave succeeded in display- 

 ing the superiority of Lavarack setters, they hav.-. indeed, all 

 the while been breeding and displaying animals which owe 

 what goodness belongs to them to the fact of their cross 

 blood. These gentlemen are unfortunate, too, in attempting 

 toprove purity for Pride by his success at the stud. 



Thev urge, in virtue of the success of I 'ride and his de- 

 scendants at the stud, that it is an established fact that pure 

 bred ones are the best sires, and now that they thiuk that 

 they have established thai the. goodness of these dogs is in 

 consequence of their purity, they want to turn round and 

 prove that I heir purity is in consequence of their goodness, 

 the clearest ease of an argumi m in a. circle. 



In this order of argument is the assertion of a certain 

 writer of articles on dogs in a. contemporary — who puts him- 

 self forward as an admirer of nothing but Loveracks ••pure" 

 —that he would rather have blue Prince bitches to Lived 

 from than those of all other strains put together; also thai it 

 is foolish to quarrel about the purity of dogs which have done 

 so much good. He forgets that it is only in consequence oft 

 aud depending on, their imagined punty that the good is 

 supposed to be derived from them. 



An American writes of the "evenness" of the produce of 

 Pride of the Border, and their goodness as proof of their 

 Lad another writes that Pride never gol live.- and 

 whites. A third gives a list of six or eight liver and whites 

 by Pride, some, of which, moreover, had topknots on l heir 

 heads, he fells us— a fact which is antagonistic to the claim oj 

 "sortiness." My own bitch. Whitchurch Bess, liver and 

 white, bv a sonof bride's, was one of those with a, top-knot. 

 —a feature l never saw uathepurepart of the breed. 



! am asked why I did no1 bring my question forward before; 

 and in thesaine breath why I brinEfl forward al all. Permit me 

 tosay I have not challenged Mr. Laverack's good faith. It is 

 open to everyone to regard misstatements of pedigree as 

 blunders: but'weiei to do so I should be guilt. > of no breach 

 of friendship. U. L.I.. P0BGEL.L LLEWELLIN. 



Sot in Oemsbt Ham., Lincolnshire, March 1. 



Upon which the editor remarks: "It seems to us that the 

 discussion on the breeding of the Laverack setter is all 

 useless. The question really is (irrespective of Mr. ]..■. 

 veracity) not whether they arepure setters, but whether they 

 are all "bred from one brace of setters Ponl 'And Old Moll); 

 for no one supposes that Mr. Laverack resorted to impure 

 seder- for has crosses. Manife.sty.it' so bred, they are very 

 much in-bred; l>ut they are no more pare {quoad the English 

 setter) than if Mr. Laverack had used an outoross in >-v ■ry 

 alternate generation. When first they were tried in public no 

 one contended thev were good because ot this m-breeding, but 

 in spite of it: and until their goodness was publicly proved} 

 then-alleged breeding was generally considered tp be a .-aiie-i. 

 them. The question discussed by Mr. Purcell Llewellin [sBnja 

 i • advantage or disadvantage of close m-breeding; 

 and has no relation, in our opinion, to the value of the Laver- 

 ack setter, which must stand or fall on its own merits; and 

 would in the estimation of most people be increased, rather 

 than dim unshed, if proved to be more free from the ill-eifectS 

 'eeding than it would otherwise be, if ad- 

 mitted to be descended from one brace." 



"Mr. Eeraberg has- replied to the foregoin letter as follows. 

 Mr. Llewellm, withthe mannei • oi a -rand -cleii.-ur who is 

 well known ...v.. -rail I he world and a pari of Wales, trie W 

 Wavu me aside by calling me a "person," which is 



. i ml. sin.- his readers that "all that is known of Mr. 

 Eerzuerg is that ho is the owner of some setters which he. ad- 

 ,n the public stud as pure Laverocks." 

 i must confess thai it was weak in m ar to the 



wishes of some friends, as to advertise my dogs lor a few 



months, and i also admit thai ii was a foolish credulity in mo 

 to Imagine thai Emperor Fred and (Udorshol were puM 

 Lav ■••rack, for i he fountains of pedigree u a e bet a so I roublefl 

 by Mr. Llewellin aud his friend .Mr. Buck.- I, that nothing can 

 be considered pure with any certainty thai comes ni 

 — 1 mean near the fountains. 



I wish t,. state right here, that itwasMr. Bnok 

 who introduced personalities and criticisms of ■_ ranunar, con- 

 struction and • > the controversy. 



I am quite vriuing that my lettere shall bo com] 



courtesy and fair treatment With those of Mr Llewellin I 



his James, and I can assure the latter thai whei her I 



