Apktt, fi, 1883.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



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MR. JOHN S. MCINTOSH'S RED IRISH SETTER "BIZ." 



l lids cheap food 



.nl racehorses, si 



'or -we aim to build up 



actly what they 



on, that in ' i . , i 



■in t, butmj des 



eath. 



Dig tl 



• reports, etc., to England, or 



id the best she has iu the shop, 

 i-ts liv representing our goods 





, in this connec- 





ts not impor- 



,-,,;'. his'soppm 



,ers have satis- 



1 by the same. 



motives. Thev 



smselves on a 



logma, and are 



isti irting the texl to si istain it. 

 Mr. IJewellin, iu Ids letter, delights to sax/k "It has been 

 >roved, ,! when he should have said in his own ease: "It has 

 "'I! asserted." But this Is a peculiarity of dogmatists. 

 8£l\ Llewellin. says, alluding to my statement, that he. Mr. 

 iwelliii, was ambitions to have bis name attached to a breed 

 eap road to notoriety. "His reference to mv 

 1 1 t.- is made with the object of misleading. The 

 lat my name was bestowed on tilem by no other 

 berg's own countrymen some yuars ago, after 

 he subject, held by the owners of the best set- 

 — try: and that lie knows very well." 

 Iknow nothing of the kind, neither does Mr. Llewellin; on 

 ic contrary, quite the reverse. 



'ate Mr. Llewellin by calling this 



e the facts as to the naming of the 



fcee sponsors who are supposed by 



opacity of h : s guileless heart— to 



u for the purt 



dog: 



(LI ewe 



salfc 



rail . 



mfei 



in his 



It is 



Statement ' ■false' 1 . * Here 

 fetgs, and all about the Y; 

 Mi\ Llowcllhi-ma!l the I 

 have met in national c 



Under date of March :10th. 1S7.S. Mr. L. H. .Smith, an English- 

 , and a "Llewellin setter" breeder of Sfrathrov, Canada, 

 be as follows: ''The. new name (from field trial setter to 

 more clearly identify the breed with Mr. Lie- 



11 be found much bettf 

 ed is now known. I am not 



and feelings with regard to 



Bnckell's sincere wish this 



■ell known to all that Mr. 



weilin's kennel, and when used 

 than the name by which the bn 

 amply stating my own opinion 



this matter, "but" know it, is Mi 



change hhuuld be made (and it . _ 



Buekell is Mr. Llewellin's most intimate friend). I also hav 



good reason for saying that Mr. Llewellin will be tiittch pleased 



at the step we propose faking.' 1 



The "we" here used, is less imposing as to numbers than the 



"we. tiie people of England," in the. famous petition of the 



I aitors of Toolev Street. There were onlv enough to 



Justify- the use of the plural pronoun "we," viz. : Mr. Smn% oi 



Canada, and Mr. Burgess of 'Hillsdale, Michigan. 



Under the same date, Mr. Burgess writes: "I hove .just re- 

 ceived a letter from Mr. G. T. Toasdall Buekell. proposing to 

 change the uaiue of the strain of dogs, emanating from Mr. 

 Llewellin's Kennel, from the Field Trial to Llewel lin 's 



Breed." 



Of e« 



Bueke 



attach 

 protes 



of w; 



. Mr. 



ill -do 



olhl 



i this side C 



about his friend Mr. 

 te modesty that ever 



aid have led him to 

 ic ingenious process 

 f the pond. 



Air. Smith and Mr. Burgess at once began advertising their 

 lags as "LleweUian setters"— both gentlemen try to make it 

 pay— and oilier owners of the same breed acted under the 

 same admirable coaching, and followed suit. 



These are the facts; it remains for Mr. Llewellin, if he. were 

 ignorant of them, to confess it, and to retract, his charge 

 against me, or to stand convicted of false accusation. I will 

 not insist on applying to Mr. LJcwellin's assertions the legal 

 principle "false in" one false in all," but wdl continue to treat 

 Ahem with a show of respect that he has not accorded to my 

 inquiries. 



Now. we on tliis side of the water, not in the "Llewellin 

 ring," have onlv the same means of knowing about the pedi- 

 grees of dogs in England, that Englishmen not in the afore- 

 sa.id ring have, viz.; the published records— the Kennel Club 

 Stud Book — a complete, file of which I have. 



In this record every owner writes out the pedigree of his 

 own dogs. I .may also say that I read the English and American 

 sporting papers regularly, and that I have long been in cor- 

 respondence with gentlemen in England, who are interested 

 in English setters. 



Until recently I had every reason to believe that Mr. Llewel- 



lin indorsed ii-i'i hi g. ri,-i In- .1 id 

 what, he indorsed wa- 

 il o-ealled discovert 

 ors, unless he c 

 in the pasl andpo i 

 It is not a question oi 

 : it is a question 

 with recently-asserted^ 



Mr. Llewellin's first protest doej 

 his second protest, nor di 

 OB. the heels of both protests— lib 

 Cast anv light; on the subject. 



That' Carlowitz is, a liver and white is conceded by Mr. 

 Llewellin, but this, new test of aa outeross, us he sets it forth 



lot know to be true, and that 

 s truth in England. His re- 

 Sof no importance, to in- 

 y show why he was in error 

 oris tor his change, 

 ve merits of the Laverack 

 ■epted pedigree as compared 



3 not explain this, nor does 



gue letter which he sent out 



an ill-mounted courier- 



in his protest, is not earri 



an attempt to alter all the 



' mi would do an inj 



leh as. the Dash-Molls, I) 



ned, against which there 



r of March 1. in reply I 



bjeetof the liver and \ 



feed, by me before the co 



evid/nee against the puritj 



other things, of which Mr, 



i ,i ■ ,-.y . ! ,.- -; ,-■ .,:■:.•■ 

 ■ ktolini." No 



lit b' 





">!'. 



ofM 



svidence." K .... 

 Llewellin says: "The 

 Carlowitz was intro- 

 i;e Kennel Club, inmj 

 be Border, and among 

 una ho have, no idea, 

 not by Bash II, out 

 Llewellin came out 



until this let: . 



itation of my ■■reflection,'' 1 do not believe there was 



1 reau oiUsiile of the ■■ring" in England (rind I am Certain 



there was not one man in America) interested in the subject, 



■ it believe that the pedigree of Countess was exactly 



as Mr. Llewellin gave it in the Kennel Club Stud Book, Vol. 

 I., No. 1,489. Her record has been undisputed for twelve 

 years, a ud Mr. Llewellin must give us some greater proof than 

 lis bare 1 before X fox one, can accept Ma "I proved, etc." 

 If the grand* twin! i ■ ■■-. I ie an otttcross, then outcrossing should 

 be encouraged : but it is not a question of merit, but of ve- 

 racity, so let Mr. Llewellin give us the proofs on which he 

 changes his long-sustained opinions. But not being a Mr. 

 Bucket! nor Mr. James, whose bread and butter may depend 

 on indorsing the ipse dixit of Mr. Llewellin, I must" hold the 

 latter to what he has written iu the K. C. Stud Book. I re- 

 fuse to accept, his assertions without the additional evidence 

 that would convince a juror sitting in judgment outhe case. 



Mr. Llewellin says the Dash-Molls. Dash-Lills are pure, and 

 adds that the liver and whites are, impure. The dam of Carlo- 

 witz, Countess, is a Dash II. -Moll III. bitch. The sire of Cario- 

 witz. Pilkingfon's Dash, is bv Dash II. out of Pilkington's Lill, 

 the dam of Mr. Llewellms Lill II. Here for Carlowitz we have 

 the Dash-Molls, Dash-Lills, pure according to Mr. Llewellin's 

 standard, save the recent bar sinister in the pedigree of Count- 

 ess, a bar that is not yet accepted by that intelligent College 

 of Canute Heraldry;, the English Kennel Club, and so I refuse 

 to accept it, even though "an Oxford M. A." says I should. 



Mr. Llewellin forgets much of what he has said, though a 

 man with his mental peculiarities should have a good memory, 

 as 1 may prove hereafter, and much of what lie writes as" I 

 shall proceed to prove now. Neither I nor my friends would 

 think of using Mr. Llewel lin 's business letters "in this contro- 

 versy, though they arc in no sense, private, if he. had not re- 

 flected on the character of a dead man as relentlessly ashenow 

 does i m the pedigree of a dead dog, and if Mr. Buekell had not 

 called in question the oath of the poor kennelman Rogers. 



That the admirers of Mr. Llewellin's setters mav know what 

 fchey are getting— at big prices— here, and I presume in Eng- 

 land. I insert 1 .he following letter. I give it verhn timet liter- 

 ; mi mctuaUm. It-is certainly as remarkable a produc- 

 ion as i ver emanated from the pen of a graduate of that grand 

 old university- over the. Gothic archway of one of whose halls 

 was once inscribed the legend, "Inter sylvas academic! quer- 



Souih Ormsbt Hall, April 26, 1880. 

 Mr. A. H. Moore, 1?ii.1lSpr$hg Garden street, Philadelphia,, Pa., 



U. S. America: 

 Dear Sib! 



I have your letter of April 12th. I think you misunderstood 

 me altogether. I am not a dog dealer. I "do not keep dogs 

 with the object of profit nor is my object that of breeding for 

 sale; as i see most of your Kennel clubs do, which appear to 

 be to me (like our Kennel club here of which I am NOT a mem- 

 ber I rejoice to say) simply companies of dog dealers. 



I am a man of large Estate and wealth and breed and keep 

 a kennel for my own pleasure, and with the ambition of pro- 

 ducing better than other people, ambition not money is ray 

 object. I do not depend on the few hundreds of pounds per 

 annum that nvy culls fetch me for income, my annual income 

 is thousands. 



I do sell dogs it is time because I breed largely in order 

 to carry out my theories of improvement, consequently my 

 kennel becomes frequently overstocked. What am I to do? 

 I must either sell them or* shoot them. Those I sell have al- 

 ways been culls, invariably reserving those that are better for 

 myself. 



I do not wish to part with any of those bitches y r ou mention 

 as they arc amongst those. I reserve, for myself, but as I before 

 said hi reference both to them and Wind'em in reply (a your 

 former letter; of course some one. may offer such a sum that 

 I may be tempted to part with one, but as I have plenty of 

 money it must be such a sum. as would be worth not onlv rny 

 thinking about, but adequate to represent the value, of "such 

 dogs — as they have not their match in the world. Their rela- 

 tives mav lie in existence but their relatives do not mean 

 themselves. 



Under any circumstances I would not dream of parting with 

 more thanoriE even if thousands were offered. Ho now you 

 understand me — those who know me know that when I say a 

 thing I mean it and I tell you this to save you endless trouble 

 and letter writing 



Yours truly 



R Ll Purcell Llewellin. 



"A man of large estate" and his "annual income is thous- 

 ands.'" vrell, I must confess I thought he was -worth — less. 



lien . so -few rich men Li this country that whi □ 

 come across one we fall right down and 'worship him. We 



win our dollars here by a combinati ong arms, brave 



bcarteand clear brains, and I pi -e me Mr. Llewellin got his 

 pile in this way, and 1 congratulate him; but taking the above 

 , ;:. i , -..._,.,.,,. -.1 of hi.-, talents, I am inclined to think that 

 he did not weary his brains in securing his fortune. 



And wyVfr. Herzberg's countrymen" met in convention to 



.lewellm's name to a lo Did he teU the. 



Yankees who bought his dogs that they were the refuse of 



his kennel, and that lie was in a dilemma as to whether hc- 



hem' r sell them,' I doubt if 

 who assures us he is "not a member" of the Kennel 

 a breeder for "profit," did anything of the kind. With a tine 

 sense of Cambrian thrift he kept his opinion to himself, and 

 pocketed his dollars after he. had sold his "culls," and I may 

 add, sold t ho Yankees also. Really, this is paying us back for 

 sanding our cotton. 



Mr. A. H. Mi iore is said to be very wealthy, though no one 

 would suspect i i i rs Or his manner. He owns the 



litter brother to Count Wind'em, and he will sell the creature 

 he will point out to the purchaser the fact 

 •rick, Wind'em's brother, lias one of the most, 

 positive eollev tails that ever wagged behind an unat 

 dog. Mr. Moore's keimel, on which he has spent "thousands," 



will soon be rid of its last Llewellin "cuff" and aU the progeny 

 of the same. 



Do the members of the Kennel Club know the contempt in 

 which Mr. Llewellin hold- them, or can his sneers at I hem be 

 explained bythe act S at gentlemen in l-higiand, as here, are 

 apt to use black-balls when an objectionable name is up? As 

 to our own Westminster Kennel Club, that gives an exhibition 

 annually in Mew York (and I can say the same of the clubs 

 scattered throughout the country), it is composed of gentle- 

 men, manv of them of "large estate." and with incomes of 

 "thousands." and whenever they sell doe--, which they prefer 

 lo shooting them, they represent them for what they arc. 



Though 'not a professional dog-trader. Mr. Llewellin admits 

 that he maybe "tempted" to part, with "a dog not a cull;" 

 but; as he has "plenty of money," it; must be a, fabulous sum 

 "worth his thinking "about." Well, if a man trades here, we 

 call him a trader, irrespective of the price, he puts on the ar- 

 id. If he can get thousands for a thing that is not 

 worth hundreds, we say he is "a mighty sharp fellow," and I 

 take it Mr. Llewellin has this faculty abnormally developed. 



If Mr. Llewellin sticks to the question, and gives facts to 

 prove his statements, I shall treat them with respect; but 

 knowing what I do, I shall not stand insult when it is in my 

 power to counter harder than he can strike. 



E. A. Herzberg. 



Bkooklyn, N. Y. 



THE RED IRISH SETTER BIZ. 



WE give our readers this week a sketch of the Red Irish 

 Setter Biz, owned by Mr. John 8. Mcintosh, of Pitts- 

 burg, Pa. Biz was whelped June PRISTS. His bench show 

 winnings are: First in puppy class at both Pittsburg and Mew 

 York, 1879; first in open class, Pittsburg, 1SS1; first in cham- 

 pion class for all setters, and special for best dog of any breed 

 at Franklin, Pa.,1881 . His field trial's record is: Equal first with 

 May Laverack in the Pennsylvania State Field Trial, Mem- 

 bers Stake, 1881, and special for the best Irish setter compet- 

 ing at the. same meeting. Biz is a very handsome upstanding 

 dog of the true Irish type and color. He is a grand dog on 

 the bench, as his winnings attest. He Is also the best Irish dog 

 that we have, ever seen in the field, and we shall long remem- 

 ber the wonderful speed and graceful style exhibited by him 

 at Grand Junction last December. The cut is from a sketch 

 of the oil painting executed by Mr. J. M. Tracy, and is a capi- 

 tal likeness. 



THE NEW YORK DOG SHOW. 



THE entries are coming in fast, and I think the show will 

 far exceed any show ever given in the world. 



In addition to "the special prize list already published, the 

 following have been given: 



Thomas F. Ryan, of New York, offers §25 cash for .the best 

 pure Laverack setter stud dog, to be shown with his progeny, 

 the progeny to be under 12 months. 



Thomas Morrell, of Mew York, offers a handsome piece of 

 silver plate for the best collection of sporting dogs owned by 

 one individual, number and quality to be considered. 



Miss Venie Thompson, of West Swanzey, Mew Hampshire, 

 offers an elegant silver cake-basket for the best Gordon setter 

 in the show. 



E. A. McFarland, of Philadelphia, offers a silver cup for the 

 best English setter dog with the best field trial record. 



F. K. M. Rehn, of Mew York, offers a silver pitcher for the 

 best Irish setter dog. 



P. T. Cunningham, of Mew York city, offers a silver soup 

 tureen for the best English setter dog. 



W. W. Weaver, of New York city, gives a silver champagne 

 bottle-holder for the best pure Laverack setter clog. Donor 

 does not compete. 



L. F. Martin, of New York, offers 820 cash for the best bull- 

 terrier dog or bitch in the show. 



A cable message was received this morning from Mrs. 

 1 .„-ii i go-in, of England. ;■ very ltot.-d exhibitor, saying she 

 wished to make entries. 



Many entries have been received from prominent ladies in 

 the city, also from Philadelphia. Pittsburg and Baltimore. 



A special prize has been given for the besh caniche, poodle, 

 as there are quite a number of those dogs here now. They 

 were first imported by Mrs. Lorillard. 



We publish below a complete list of the special prizes which 

 are offered for the forthcoming show. Although their in- 

 trinsic value makes them well worth the winning, their chief 

 value will consist in the tokens which they will represent of 

 the beauty and worth of the winners. 



The Westminster Kennel Club offers prize medals suitably 

 engraved for dogs that have run and been placed in any of 

 the held trials that have been held in America: A., best pointer 

 dog; B., best pointer bitch; C.,best English setter dog; D., best; 

 English setter bitch: E., best Irish setter dog: F.. best Irish 

 setter bitch; G., best black and tan setter; H... best kennel 

 large-sized pointers, not less than five, owned by exhibitor; b, 

 best, keimel small-sized pointers, not less than live, owned by 

 exhibitor; ,L, best kennel English setters, not less than live. 

 owned by exhibitor; K, best kennel Irish setters, not less 

 than five," owned by- exhibitor; L., best kennel black and tan 

 setters, not less than five, owned by exbibifor; M., Trainer's 

 Prize, $25, for best brace of setters or pointers, iiny r age (or one of 

 each breed), that shows the best training for field use. The 

 competitors fortius prize will be required to exhibit then- dogs 

 in the ring evei-y day of the show. 



M., C. Dtt Bois Wagstaff, donates meerschaum pipe, value, 

 *a0, for the best pointer dog or bitch puppv: O.. a member o! 

 the Westminister Kennel Club offers 815, cash, for the best 

 pointer dog: also |10. cash, for the best pointer bitch, each to 

 be the get" of Sensation: P., amemberof the Westminster 

 Keimel Cluli otters $85, cash, for the best pointer dog or bitch, 

 of any age, entered in the open classes; Q., a member of the 

 Westminister Kennel Club offers #25, cash, for the best Irish 

 setter dog or bitch, of any age, entered in the open Clfl 

 R., Louis B. Wright, offers a silver collar, vain- *25, manu- 

 factured by Tiffany & Co., for the best fox-1 : end. r 

 twelve months; §.,' a member of the Westminster Kennel 

 Club offers $20; cash, or a bronze dog, same value, for the best 

 large-sized poodle, over lOlbs. weight: T., G. De Forest Grant, 

 Offers Silver flask, value, $75, for the best English setter, 

 native or imported, dog or bitch entered in the open classes; 

 U., a member of Westminster Keimel Club offers -:'e, castu for 

 the best collie dog or bitch, entered in open classes: V., F, R. 

 Hitchcock, offers silver flask, value, $15, for the best fox-ter- 

 tierdogor bitch in the show; W., John Aspinwall, (Massena 

 Kennels), Barrvtown, N. Y., offers $10 for the best foxhound 

 dog or bitch "in the show; X, J. M. Tracy, artist, of 

 New York city, offers a series of his celebrated pictures of 

 field scenes, for" the best black and tan setter entered in the 

 open classes. These pictures will embrace most of the famous 

 dogs of the dav, engraved bv the allotype process, from 

 paintings by Mr. Tracy, value $20j Y., Geo. ( '. Sterling, of 

 New York city, offers lemonade set or thirteen pieces, suitably 

 engraved, for the best Llewellin setter dog puppv. under 

 months; Z.. Dr. E. C. Franklin, of Ann Arbor, Mich., 

 offers a gold-lined silver goblet, for the best liver or liver and 

 white cocker spaniel dog" or bitch. This prize is to given an- 

 nually, and the cup wffl be suitably engraved: AA., Chas. 

 Mrirari, Jr., nf New York, offers silver collar, for the smallest 

 and best, Yorkshire terrier; BB., W. H. Beadle. Of New York 

 city, offers $25, cash, for the best, pug dog 01" tjitchm theshow; 

 CO., Max WenzeL of Hoboken. New Jersey, otters sUver cup, 

 for the best Irish setter dog or bitch, of any age. sired by his 

 dog Chief. 



The English prize.— DD. , Messrs Williams & Powell, of Liv- 

 erpool, England, donate one of their fine guns, value, $850, to 

 en to the best English setter puppy under twelve 

 months. 



