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the United Eleven played last fall of the rascality of their quondom cap¬ 
tain Are we individually“our brother’s keeper?” The St. Louis or St. 
George’s Clubs will be glad to hear from eastern clubs desirous of trying 
their prowess with the western boys. 
The following is the score: 
ST. GEORGE. 
FIRST INKING. 
w Allen c Jeffries b Sharpe.12 
A. Rea c Day b Miller . 8 
j Crutwellb Sharpe... .. 3 
H W Richardson run out. 18 
T. Dale b Sharpe .. 0 
F. L. Mordaunt b Miller. 2 
W. Craggb Lycett.12 
T. Webb b Sharpe. 4 
R. Jackson b Sharpe.10 
G. T. Baker b Jeffries. 3 
J. McClean not out —..— • • • • • 2 
Byes, 4; lee byes, 4; Wides, 7; no 
balls, 0. 15 
SECOND INNING. 
b Lycett. 4 
run out. 7 
run out. l 
b Sharpe. 8 
b Lycett. 7 
b Sharpe. o 
b Sharpe. l 
c Day b Lycett . 4 
st Jeffries b Lycett. l 
not out. o 
c Jones b Sharpe. 3 
Byes, 2; leg byes, 0; wides, 1 : no 
balls, 1 . 4 
Total 
89 
Total 
ST. LOUIS. 
40 
FIRST INNING. 
J. B. Gage c Rea b Mordaunt.... 0 
II. E. Sharoe b Webb. 2 
Cyrus Dav c Mordaunt b Webb... 8 
,j W. Jeffries c Jackson b Webb. 0 
s' H. Jones b Webb. 0 
j’ Thursby c and b Mordaunt- 1 
T Miller retired.11 
C. West b Webb. 1 
C. Mugridge c Jackson b Mord’nt. 2 
R. H. Lycett c Allen b Mordaunt. 1 
Wyman McCreery not out. 0 
Byes, 8 ; leg byes, 1; wides, 2.11 
Total.'..37i Total. 
SECOND INNING. 
b Webb. i 
b Webb . 1 
not out. i 
b Webb.. o 
b Mordaunt.'.. 4 
Allen b Mordaunt. 0 
not out. 0 
c Dale b Webb.16 
c Dale b Allen. 1 
not out. 0 
c Rea b Allen. 8 
Byes, 5; leg byes, 0 ; wides, 1 ... 6 
“Bill Stumps.’ 
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[We acknowledge the courtesy of H. E. S., who also sent us a report 
of the match.] 
—The London Cricket Club of Ontario and the Detroit 
Club played a match on the grounds of the Peninsulas on 
the 26th of May, at Detroit. The following is the score: 
DETROIT. 
fore equalled in the annals of base ball. We quote the 
total scores below : 
May 21, Philadelphia vs. Hartford, at Philadelphia, 6—4 
“ 22, Boston vs. Atlantic, at Brooklyn, 6—2 
“ 22, Baltimore vs. Hartford, at Baltimore, 9—7 
“ 28, Atlantic vs. Boston, at Boston, 9—3 
“ 23, Mutual vs. Chicago, at Chicago, 7—4 
“ 23, Athletic vs. Hartford, at Philadelphia, 12—4 
“ 26, Atlantic vs. Boston, at Boston, 6—2 
“ 27, Boston vs. Mutual, at Boston, 9—5 
“ 27, Atlantic vs. Yale, at New Haven, 8—3 
“ 27, Chicago vs. Hartford, at Chicago, 9—3 
“ 29, Boston vs. Philadelphia, at Boston, 8—0 
“ 30, “ “ “ 4—3 
“ 30, Mutual vs. Atlantic, at Brooklyn, 2—0 
“ 30, Baltimore vs. Athletic, at Baltimore, 7 to 6. 
“ 30, Chicago vs. Hartford, at Chicago, 14 to 8. 
This gives an average in the fifteen games of but 7 runs 
and 11 over for the winning nines, and but 3 and 9 over for 
the losing, an average in two weeks’ play never before ap¬ 
proached. Such results prove conclusively not only how 
favorably for good play the new rules,are working, but also 
how advantageous it is in developing the beauties of the 
game to play with an elastic ball. The majority of these 
games were played with a Malm “ S” ball, and the small¬ 
est score was made with a Boss ball. 
—The professional championship games played since 
our last issue were as follows: 
May 26, Atlantic vs. Boston, at Boston, 6 to 2. 
“ 27, Boston vs. Mutual, at Boston, 9 to 5. 
“ 27, Chicago vs. Hartford, at Chicago, 9 to 3. 
“ 29, Boston vs. Philadelphia, at Boston, 8 to 0. 
“ 30, Boston vs. Philadelphia, at Boston, 4 to 3. 
“ 30, Baltimore vs. Athletic, at Baltimore, 7 to 6. 
“ 30, Chicago vs. Hartford, at Chicago, 14 to 8. 
“ 30, Mutual vs. Atlantic, at Brooklyn, 2 to 0. 
June 1, Philadelphia vs. Atlantic, at Brooklyn, 10 to 0. 
“ 1, Athletic vs. Baltimore, at Philadelphia, 10 to 3. 
FIRST INNING. 
G. Heigho b Gillman.13 
F. Bamford ct and b Saunders_ 1 
C Calvert b Saunders. 2 
S. W. Hardinge b Saunders. 5 
TJ. Armstrong b Gillean. 2 
G. Edgar b Gillean.0 
R. Corner b Gillean. •_ 0 
R. Ridgeley b Saunders.0 
F. Irvin st and b Saunders _ 0 
P. Uridge ct and b Saunders. 3 
W. Kelso not out. 0 
Byes, 6 ; leg byes, 3. 8 
SECOND INNING. 
b Gillean.16 
ct Hyman b Brock. 4 
ct T. Gillean b Brock.13 
b Gillean. 10 
ran out.is 
b J. Gillean. 6 
ct Brock b Saunders. 5 
run out. 0 
not out. 2 
b Saunders. 3 
b Saunders. 0 
Byes, 18; leg byes 4; wides, 5... 27 
Total. 
Grand total—138. 
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Total.104 
SECOND INNING. 
FALL OF WICKETS. 
1 st. 2d. 3d. 4th. 5th. 6 th. 7th. 8 th. 9th. 10th. Total 
First inning. 14 20 20 24 28 28 29 30 30 36 34 
Second inning. 9 13 15 41 64 74 80 86 94 104 104 
LONDON. 
FIRST INNING. 
Patterson ct Kelso b Heigho. 7 
W. Lacke b Corner'..10 
C.Hyman ct Bamford b Armstrong 9 
Despard b Armstrong.'.67 
J. Saunders ct Ban ford b Arm¬ 
strong. 9 
Brock run out. 7 
Knight b Armstrong. 0_ 
Barrett not out.141 not out 
T. Gillean b Corner. 7 
Davies ct Uridge b Corner. 0 
J. Gillean ct Edgar b Ileigho. 1 
Byes, 6 ; leg byes, 2 ; wides, 4 _ 12 
b Armstrong. 
Total. 
Byes.0 
.136 Total. 4 
FALL OF WICKETS. 
1st. 2d. 3d. 4th. 5th. 6 th. 7th. 8 th. 9th. 10th. 
First inning. 12 44 57 74 113 113 114 134 ”134 136 
Second inning,_ 4 — — — __— _ — _ 
Total. 
Total 
136 
4 
140 
Umpires—Messrs. Dr, Bray and H. H. Swinseal. Scorers, Messrs. H. 
8 . Parker and T. Gillean. 
—The record for May’s cricketing in England shows an 
unusual number of “centuries”—scores of a hundred 
rims—for the leading experts. Thus far the list is as fol¬ 
lows :— 
W. H. Game, of Oriel club, not out. 
Ti. Q,. Steel, of Uppingham school, not out_ 
E. R. Hodson, of Magpie club. 
C. W. Burls, of Chrystal Palace club, not out. 
W. S. Patterson, of Cambridge. 
F. M. Buckland, of Oxford. 
D. R. Hunter, of Cambridge. 
H. Roland, of Merchiston.. 
P. M. Kidd, of Blackheath. 
J. Fewings, of Clifton_ 
F. Townsend. 
J. Jackson, of Cambridge. 
S. C. Newton, of Corpus Chnsti College. 
A. P. Lucas, of Uppingham... 
W. J. Ford, of St. John’s College. 
Rev S. C. Yaules, of Rossall. 
W. Fairbanks, of Cambridge..-. 
234 
184 
163 
157 
147 
136 
115 
109 
109 
109 
108 
107 
106 
104 
100 
100 
100 
—The question of amateur cricketers being paid is thus 
referred to in a communication to the Marylebone Club 
from Mr. Henry Holden, who says* “ I think it high time 
that the question as to what constitutes an amateur and 
what a professional cricketer should be brought forward 
and settled. I was under the impression that an amateur 
was one who played for amusement, a professional one 
who played for profit. Year afte^year I see Mr. William 
Gilbert Grace playing for the Gentlemen against the Play¬ 
ers, although it is well known that he is as regularly paid 
as any professional in the kingdom, the only difference be¬ 
ing that he is paid larger sums for each match. This is 
wrong in principle and practice; the Players of England 
teel very strongly on this subject, and I am now expressing 
the opinion of a very great majority of them. I had in¬ 
tended to present a protest from them, and had obtained 
the signatures of some of the principal players of York¬ 
shire and Nottinghamshire, but, the time being short, I 
ionnd it impossible to send round to all, and, therefore, 
thought it the better plan to write and protest, as I now 
I?’ against any person who is paid for playing in any 
faatcli being allowed to play as a Gentleman against the 
Flayers.” 
No player—cricketer or base ball player—can be regard¬ 
ed as an amateur who in any way is paid for his services. 
Urace is a professional as much as Lilly White. 
9 murder was committed at a ball match on May 
r! ip Clark County, Georgia, a player named Pink Price 
hitting Luther Thatcher on the head with a bat and killing 
him instantly. Both were under 20 years of age. 
—The professional nines are this season playing base ball 
almost to perfection, as the remarkably small scores which 
have marked the championship contests fully prove. The 
record of the arena from May 21st to 31st is one never -be 
—The average of runs for the winning nines in the pro¬ 
fessional arena during April was 12, and the average for 
the losing nines 4. During May a marked improvement 
was exhibited, the average for the winning nines having 
been run down to 8, the smallest on record, while the 
losing side still kept to 4. 
—The Chicago games to date in the professional arena 
include the following: 
April 22, Philadelphia vs. Baltimore, at Baltimore, 13 to 0. 
May 13, Chicago vs. Athletic, at Chicago, 4 to 0. 
“ 29, Boston vs. Philadelphia, at Boston, 8 to 0. 
“ 30, Mutual vs. Atlantic, at Brooklyn, 2 to 0. 
June 1, Philadelphia vs. Atlantic, at Brooklyn, 10 to'0. 
The best played amateur games on record for May are 
as follows. We first give the games played by amateurs 
with professional nines. 
May 6, Hartford vs. Yale, at New Haven, 6 to 4. 
“ 27, x\tlantic vs. Yffle, at New Haven, 8 to 3. 
“ 26, Easton vs. Princeton, at Princeton, 7 to 4. 
“ 16, Pacific vs. Collins, at Philadelphia, 9 to 5. 
“ Rothchilds vs. Field, at Hoboken, 8 to 7. 
Of games in which the winning nines exceed 9 runs to a 
match, the following are the best on record in May: 
May 2, Princeton vs. Zephyr, at Princeton, 10 to 2. 
“ 2, Centennial vs. Gerard, at Philadelphia, 12 to 9. 
“ 9, Yale vs. Fly Away, at New Haven, 15 to 5. 
“ 8, Philadelphia vs. Princeton, at Princeton, 15 to 7. 
“ 9, Nassau vs. Rosedale, at Brooklyn, 13 to 5. 
“ 11, Waverly vs. Star, at Hoboken, 14 to 13. 
“ 4, Pacific vs. Sheba, at Philadelphia, 12 to 2. 
“ 6, Lafayette vs. Eureka, at Philadelphia, 11 to 6. 
“ 13, Monumental vs. Echo, at Baltimore, 12 to 9. 
“ 14, Creighton vs. Eagle, at Washington, ll to 6. 
“ 16, Germantown vs. Riverton, at Riverton, 10 to 2. 
“ 16, West End vs. Modoc, at Philadelphia, 11 to 9. 
“ 18, Collins vs. Easton, at Easton, 11 to 4. 
—Among other amateur games last week since May 25th 
were the following: 
May 26, Easton vs. Princeton, at Princeton, 7 to 4. 
“ 26, Mysterious vs. Star, at Wayne Station, Philadel¬ 
phia, 19 to 15. 
“ 27, Jasper vs. N. Y. University, at Manhattanville, 
32 to 8. 
“ 27, Chelsea vs. Amity, at Prospect Park, 21 to 1. 
“ 27, Nassau vs. Athletic, at Prospect Park, 30 to 0. 
“ 28, Jasper vs. Oriental, at Greenpoint, 19 to 10. 
“ 28, Aldine vs. Unknown, at Philadelphia, 26 to 5. 
“ 29, Pierce College vs. High School, at Philadelphia. 
28 to 11. 
Princeton College, June 1, 1874. 
Editor Forest and Stream:— 
In your issue of .May 28th I notice a remark to this 
effect, that “but few good games are now being played by 
our local amateur clubs, chiefly in consequence of tneir 
persisting in playing under the crude code of rules adopted 
at their late convention in this city—the objectionable 
feature of which code is the undue latitude given to wild 
pitching by the absurd rule introduced governing the de¬ 
livery of the ball to the bat. By this rule pitchers are 
allowed to do just as they like almost, while the strikers 
are obliged to strike at every ball pitched over the bat.” 
Probably had Mr. Chadwick the making of the rules for 
the amateur convention, we would have been as well suited 
as the professionals, for whom he has so kindly volunteered 
to legislate, and whose efforts have utterly failed to be ap¬ 
preciated. As the amateur rule for pitching now stands, 
the latitude in pitching is not nearly so broad as for the 
professionals, who have wides and balls. The rule at 
present is such that a good umpire is indispensable, and 
with one no better games can be witnessed. I notice he 
has taken particular pains to represent liis side of the case 
pretty well in the citation of games and now let me quote 
for the benefit of showing the well working of the amateur 
rule governing the delivery of the ball to the bat. 
Yale vs. Hartford 4 to 6; Yale vs. Atlantic 8 to 3; and of 
the games which have come immediately before^my notice 
here at Princeton, some of the finest have been played 
under the new rules. Princeton vs. Zephyr, 10 to 2; 
Princeton vs. Philadelphia, 15 to 7; Princeton vs. Easton, 
4 to 7- Princeton vs. Montague, 13 to 9; and of the class 
matches May 21, ’74 vs. ’76, 3 to 7; May 27, ’77 vs. “Press” 
School,*7 to 6; May 28, ’74 vs. ’76, 15 to 14. 
Now I take it for granted that tile other part of the 
country must be able to furnish games with equally well 
marked scores, the highest scoring only 15 runs. 
Of course where two clubs are very much mismatched 
large scores on one side may be looked for. I am sorry 
to see that much as Mr. Chadwick -professes the well being 
and success of the amateurs, he is everlastingly trying to 
find some fault with them andtheir’s,and he appears to me 
in his relations to them to be “straining at a gnat,” and 
with the professionals “to be swallowing a camel.” 
A fine game was played on Tuesday, May 25th, with the 
Eastons. The college boys never played a better fielding 
game, but their handling of the ash was weak. A streak 
of good fortune favored the Easton’s in the 5th innings 
where they scored four runs by safe hitting, only then 
and for a moment completely collaring Manus’ pitching. 
Score:— 
Princeton—1, 0, 3. 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0—4. 
Easton—2, 0, 0, 0, 4, 1, 0, 0, 0—7. 
Umpire Mr. Bausman, of Lafayette College. 
On Saturday, May 30th, the Montagues of Brooklyn 
visited Princeton and were defeated as follows :— 
Montagues—0, 4, 0, 0, 0, 1, 3, 1, 0,—9. 
Princeton—0, 0, 0, 5, 3, 2, 1, 0, 2,—13. 
Umpire, Mr. Taylor, of Jersey City. Champion. 
^Inmvcrx J %o (^oriiexgonclmtg. 
We shall endeavor m this department to impart and hope to receive 
such information as may be of service to amateur and professional sports¬ 
men. We will cheerfully answer all reasonable questions that fall within 
the scope of this paper, designating localities for good hunting, fish¬ 
ing, and trapping, and giving advice and instructions as to outfits, im 
plements, routes, distances, seasons, expenses, remedies, traits, species 
governing rules, etc. All branches of the sportsman's craft will receive 
attention. Anonymous Communications not Noticed. 
Buena Ventura. Flint, Mich.—Yours received with thanks. Will 
print at earliest opportunity. 
P., Boston.—Can you supply Nos. 1,11, 17, 19, vol. one, to a subscri¬ 
ber to complete his file for binding? Ans. Yes. 
Old Pigeon Shooter, New York.—You do not give your name. 
Note italics at tne head of this column. 
R. W. A., New Haven.—Write to Doc Stuart, Bloomingburgh, Sulli¬ 
van county, N. Y. 
Master Lewis, Alleghany City.—Original copy of Walton excessively 
difficult to procure and worth its weight about thrice in gold. See ar¬ 
ticle in Forest and Stream of January 22,1874. 
Quebec.— Will United States money pass current in Canada, vicinity 
of Quebec, or will it be necessary to take English money? Ans. In 
Quebec, yes; in the vicinity, no. You can exchange greenbacks for sil¬ 
ver in Quebec at any place. 
Secretary.— The builders of bass wood (not cedar) canoes in Onta¬ 
rio, Canada, are, Wm. English of Peterboro, and -Gordon of North 
Douro. Shoe packs are not made in Peterboro. 
H. R., Duluth.—We have sent a portion of your letter to the gentle¬ 
man mentioned. He is perfectly reliable and will answer you in a day 
or two. 
E. B. J., Long Branch.— 1 . Would a cross !between a setter dog and a 
pointei have hair between his toes, and what do you think of the cross ? 
Ans. See Forest and Stream May 21. 2d. If a fine pointer bitch had 
pups by a coach dog, would they be worth anything as sporting dogs; 
would they not show their father plainly? Ans. They would be utterly 
worthless. 3d. Are not pointers often spotted? Ans. Yes. 
C. W. B., Newark—Having had a discussion when close season for 
trout commences in the States of T^ew York, Pennsylvania aMd New 
Jersey, we agreed to submit the question to your decision? Ans. New 
York, September 15th to March 15th; New Jersey, August 15th to April 
1 st, recently changed by legislature from September 1st to March 1st; 
Pennsylvania, August 15th to April 1st. 
Woodcock.— We have inquired, and learn from B. A. Hoopes, Esq.. 
President of the Philadelphia Sportsmens’ Club, that at the close of the 
session of the Pennsylvania Legislature the Governor signed a hill which 
fixes the time for shooting woodcock at July 1st this year, so that this 
shooting season is from July 1st to January 1st. Snipe shooting is also 
prohibited after May 1st. 
Fisherman’s Luck, Haverstraw.—We do not pin much faith on any 
special varieties of artificial flies as being infallible at certain seasons, 
but give the following list for June, as named by the Boston fly-tyers, 
Messrs. Bradford & Anthony: Green drake, gray drake, orange dan, 
coachman, scarlet ibis, dark mackerel, professor. See Forest and 
Stream, page 125, No. 8. 
N. M., New Haven.—I think of spending a month, after the middle of 
August, in the Maine woods, fishing, &c. Can you tell me through your 
columns the price of one guide for two, what our other expenses will be, 
what sport we can have, and from what books, besides Thoreau’s, we 
can get information? Ans. Hallock’s “Fishing Tourist” will give you 
every information necessary. 
Sufferer. —Can you give us a cure for the disagreeable effects of the 
Poison Ivy? A sufferer wants some relief from a punishment he is sure 
to receive whenever he even gets in the neighborhood of this pestiferous 
plant? Ans. Steep your legs and feet in strong pork brine. This is the 
farmer’s old recipe. To some persons ivy is positively innocuous, while 
to others its effects are really dreadful. Do any of our readers know of 
a better recipe? 
N. B., Philadelphia.—I have a muzzle-loading gun weighing about 10 
pounds, barrels, 31 inches long and 11 bore. How much powder should 
I use for shooting 1£ ozs. of shot? I have used 3i- drachms of Dunont’s 
No. 2, but it produces a very unpleasant recoil? Ans. Use a coarser 
grain of powder. What is a good kind of oil to use on a gun after clean¬ 
ing? Ans. Try Riggs’ Belmontyle oil and report. I have a setter pup 
that I will partly break myself. What is a good book that I can read on 
breaking and taking care of dogs? Ans. Stonehenge’s “Shot Gun and 
Rifle. 
Cushman.— Will you kindly give me information as to the probable 
expense of a trip, say from Sanlt St. Marie to the Nepigon River in the 
Lake Superior region. I desire to know more particularly the cost of 
guides, canoes, transportation, &c. ? Ans. Cost of round trip from Col- 
lingwood to Red Rock and return is $35, gold, including meals and state 
room; time, eight days. Steamers also leave Buffalo, Cleveland, Chi¬ 
cago and Detroit two or three times a*%eek for Gitchee Gusmee, or Lake 
Superior. Don’t know exact fare from the Sault to Red Rock, at mouth 
of Nepigon—eight dollars possibly. Guides and canoes $2 per day. 
H. A. S., Minneapolis.—Who is the person to write to at the mouth of 
the Nepigon River to make the necessary arrangements for a small trout- 
ing party? Ans. Take Duluth steamer to Red Rock, Nepigon, where 
you will find everything provided at Hudson’s Bay Co.’s Post, of best 
quality, excepting fishing tackle. They have suitable provisions, cloth¬ 
ing, blankets, guides, canoes, and doubtless a finished, commodious 
sporting house,which was in an advanced stage of construction last year. 
It may be well to attempt to secure accommodations in advance, but the 
principle is “first come, first served,” and the place is not likely to be 
overrun or drawn upon too largely, except as respects guides and canoes, 
of which there may be sufficient for two dozen gentlemen. Write to 
Robert Crawford, the company’s agent, postmaster, &c. From Duluth 
to Red Rock 196 miles. 
—Imagine the agony of a Richmond mother who has 
lost her infant when she says to its mate, “You, Jawrge 
Washington, quick ’splain yourself, chile—stop dat ar fool 
smile—whar you hin done wr de baby?” 
