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|,j the opinion of the writer, being better than Eley’s of the same grade, 
besides being cheaper and more uniform in size. My experience, tests 
and measurements are the result of patient investigation, and if they 
may call out the views of others and result in a better understanding of 
the question by the shooting fraternity, I shall be content. And my ad¬ 
vice to the sportsman who desires to use metal shells is, where you buy 
your gun try and ascertain if it has been built for the use of either kind 
of shell. If you have your gun already and it does not shoot to your 
satisfaction, get it regulated by some competent person, procure either 
the Sturtevant or Berdan shell, put them either in a Hayden belt or a 
vest built for the purpose, and do not fear that you have a cordon of fire 
around you, liable to explode at any moment. 
To those who do not care for the extra cost of using paper shells, and 
do not desire the trouble of carrying home the empty shells, these, ques¬ 
tions have little interest. But there are many sportsmen scattered over 
this broad land to whom the subject is of much importance. 
“Mr. MacDonald, the Winner op theConlin Badge 
for Rifle Shooting.” — The subjoined letter explains 
itself. The badge referred to was shot for some eight 
weeks ago.-— [Ed. Forest and Stream. 
In view of the interest taken in the rifle, and in order to 
to create certain distinctions of merit for skill in shooting, 
it is my intention to distribute badges, as awards for the 
different modes of shooting. I therefore transmit to you a 
badge for “word shooting,” to be given to Wilson Mac¬ 
Donald, Esq., he having made the best ,booting at # all dis¬ 
tances, and under the rules of my gallery. The conditions 
under which this badge of the championship of America is 
given, and by which it is to be held by the^oreseni recipient, 
and all others who may come in possession of it, are as fol¬ 
lows: The holder is subject to challenge for two years from 
the date of possession of the badge. The match for the 
championship to be thirty shots at suspended bullets, three- 
fourths of an inch in diameter; thirty shots at a bullseye 
an inch and a half in diameter; and thirty shots at paper 
targets, string measure—all at twenty-five yards, and at the 
word one —the winner of two of the three modes of shooting 
to be the champion; the match to he governed by rules to 
be entered into-at the first contest for the championship. 
You will please present the badge to Mr. MacDonald, and 
notify me of the same. Yours, respectfully, 
J. S. CONLIN. 
[The very handsome badge is now in our keeping, and 
will be transmitted by us to Mr. MacDonald.—E d.] 
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Maplewood, Mass.., July 6ih, 1874. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
I have often wondered why so little has been said in the 
papers about pistol practice. Would it not be well for you, 
through the columns of your well-known paper, to give us 
some idea about the size’and kind of target best adapted to 
that class of practice, also the distance for army-size re¬ 
volver, either Remington, Colt, or Smith & Wesson ? 
A party of four of us have been practicing of late with a 
Frank Wesson rifle-pistol, eighteen inch barrel, twenty-lwo 
calibre, with the shoulder attachment. We shoot off-hand, 
tifty-one yarfis, and use a common air-gun target, twelve 
inches in diameter, with half inch spaces between the 
circles and an inch and three-eighths bull’s eye. Enclosed 
please find the last target used. It would please us very 
much if you would tell us whether you consider it passable 
shooting or not. Target. 
This target contains thirty-nine punctures, of which three 
have cut out the centre of the bullseye, and twenty-one 
others are within the six-inch diameter. There is nothing 
remarkable in the shooting, and. a shoulder attachment to a 
pistol is not pistol shooting at all; it is simply rifle shooting, 
The size of a target for navy size revolver at twenty yards, 
would be a black bullseye, one inch in diameter, whole 
target eighteen inches across. If shooting is made at short 
distances with a navy revolver against an iron target, a re¬ 
bound of the ball may t ike place. An expert in Mew York 
at the above distance, with a ten-inch revolver, Colt’s pat¬ 
tern, at 125 feet, made si t shots, measuring 10 inches. At 
30 yards, 10 shots to measure 15 inches, is very superior 
shooting. 
The best revolver shooting ever made at Mr. J. S. Conlin’s 
gallery, was six shots, 15 inches, at 125 feet; six shots, 50 
feet, every bullet touching the other in a straight line, 7 
inches ; at 36 feet, 17 consecutive bells rung, bullseye 2i 
inches. All this shooting done off-hand, .with various 
makes of repeating .pistol.— Ed. 
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—On Wednesday, July 15th, took place at Creedmoor 
the first series of competition matches for the purpose of 
selecting the best men for the team who are to measure 
weapons with the Irish. Capt. L. 0. Bruce superintended 
the scoring. Fifteen shots were fired at each of the two 
ranges, 800 and 900 yards, and twenty shots at 1,000 yards. 
The following is the summary of the shooting: 
Name. 
General Dakin. 
G. W. Yale.. 
J. Trageser. 
II. E. Pulton. 
L. E. Hepburn. 
A. Anderson. 
E. II. Sanford. 
A. Y. Canfield, Jr. 
Leon Backer. 
L. M. Ballard .. 
General J R. Hawley. 
B, E. Valentine. 
15 Shots.- 15 Shots. 20 Shots. Grand 
800 Yards . 900 Yards. 1000 Yards. Total. 
49 
50 
60 
159 
54 
46 
56 
156 
48 
41 
58 
147 
39 
44 
63 
146 
39 
47 
58 
144 
51 
33 
57 
144 
53 
43 
44 
140 
48 
50 
37 
135 
52 
36 
44 
132 
39 
40 
50* 
129 
41 
42 
38 
121 
35 
33 
35 
103 
The analysis of the shooting of Messrs. Dakin, l r alc, 
Trageser and Fulton is quite good. General Dakin’s score 
shows an average of something better than centres at every 
shot, being 3.18. When compared with that of Hr. S. S. 
Young, the gentleman of the Irish team who made 156 
points in 45 shots, we find his average was 3.466. The 
whole score of the Irish team, when winning the Elcho 
shield, was as follows: 
Name, 
Score. 
Name 
Scor'd. 
s. 
j 
S. Young.. 
xr tvt ?n,-, „ 
. 156 
J. Wilson. 
. 152 
J, 
lY. Mi liner. 
Ihgby. 
. . . • . . t * . 10Q| 
. 154 
John Lloyd. 
. 143 
W 
E. Johnson. 
. 138 
We find the average of the Irish team to have been 3.319. 
We have, therefore, some work to do. However, the start 
is quite a promising one. 
—On Thursday last, July 19th, the Sixth regiment, under 
command of Colonel Van Wyck, met at Creedmoor for 
rifle practice. We regret to notice that the regiment, at 
least the major part of it, seemed perfectly indifferent as to 
acquiring proficiency with the rifle. Regardless of the 
military instructor, the rank and file would not obey orders. 
At the close o f the shooting, the regiment behaved in a most 
disorderly way. Every well-behaved military organization in 
the city should discredit all such rowdyism, and delinquent 
regiments should be ostracised. A continuation of such 
want of discipline must in time bring the range into dis¬ 
credit, and from no fault of the officers of the NT. R. 
A. The following are the best scores: 
Name. 
200 Yards. 
Grand 
500 Yards.. Total. 
Private Yager, Co. C. 
2 0 2 3 3 
10 
0 3 2 4 2 
11 
21 
Sergeant Roch, Co. D. 
2 3 3 3 3 
14 
0 3 0 2 0 
5 
19 
Corporal Earnest,Co. C. 
2 0 2 4 3 
11 
0 0 0 0 4 
4 
15 
Lieutenant Lefiler, Co. F. 
2 2 2 0 3 
9 
3 0 3 0 0 
0 
15 
—We are pleased to state that the marker who was hurt 
is in a fair way of recovery. Superintendent Bostwick lias 
recently attached discs to each of the traps covering the 
marker, thus indicating to the person firing when the trap 
is open, and thus preventing accidents. 
—The second meeting for the selection of our riflemen to 
shoot with the Irish team, took place on Saturday, July 
18. Wind variable, blowing strongly at times. The shoot¬ 
ing was as follows, 15 shots at 800 yards, 15 at 900, 20 at 
1,000 yards. The following are the best twelve: 
S. M. Ballard, S. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 155; 
G. W. Yale, S. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 149; 
B, Fulton, R. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 147* J. S. 
Oonlin, S. S., 800, 900 and 1,0000 yards, total 146; A. An¬ 
derson, S. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 144; General 
Dakin, R. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 144; J. Bodin, 
R. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 143; J. T. B. Collins, 
S. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 137; F. S. Gardner, S. 
S., 800, 000 and 1,000 yards, total 134; Col. Gildersleeve, 
S. M., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 120; A. Y. Canfield, 
Jr., R.S., 800, 900 and 1,000yards, total 127; L.L Hepburn, 
R. S., 800, 900 and 1,000 yards, total 127. Some nine other 
members of the H. R. A. competed in the match, M. J. 
Crouch making 129, but unfortunately Mr. Crouch not 
being to the manor born, precludes liis being enrolled in 
the American team. 
The analysis of Mr. Ballard’s score, 155, gives 3.10 for 
every sliot, being 10 better than centres. Taking the first 
fifteen shots of Mr. Ballard at 1,000 yards, we find it 
amounts to 47.133, or .133 better than centres. 
—On the same day the 79th Regiment shot for the Bruce 
medal, range 200 and 500 yards, 7 shots at each range; won 
by Mr. Edmonstone with a score of 46. In looking over the 
score, which we append, it will be noticed that the averages 
are higher generally at 500 than at 200 yards: 
Name. 
200 Yards. 
Total. 
500 Yards. 
s* 
Private Edmonstone.. 
3244333 
1 22 
4433433 
•24 
46 
Captain Lindsay.. 
3432223 
1 19 
4444334 
26 
45 
Private Stephenson. 
3434332 
j 22 
2334334 
22 
44 
Private Pyle.j 
3 3 2 2 3 3 0] 
16 
4334434 
25 
41 
Private Irwin. 
2334202; 
! 16 
3434483 
21 
40 
Private Keeler..1 
2 2 2 2 2 8 0] 
l 13 
4333333 
22 
35 
Sergeant Cameron.j 
3343222 
19 ] 
4432200 
1 15 
34 
Private More. 
3322224 
18 
03 2 343 0] 
j 15 
33 
Private Duke. 
3334333 
22 | 
,4020200) 
1 8 
10 
S. Davis, N. Y.—Please state the reason why a 10-bore, muzzle-loading 
shot gun, 28-inch barrels, maker, Wm. Moore, kicks when I charge it 
with from 21 to 3£ drachms of Hazard or Dupont powder? I have given 
it a trial three times and had it at a gunsmith’s once, with no improve¬ 
ment. It shoots well, but I cannot stand the recoil? Ans. We cannot 
say, unless the nipple is ahead of the breech. 
Tono, Albany. — will you be kind enough to give me a recipt for kill¬ 
ing fleas on a dog? Ans. Mix soft soap with as much carbonate of soda 
as will make it into a thick paste, then rub this well into the roots of the 
hair all over the dog’s body; let it remain half an hour; give a warm bath 
and dry by exercise. 
J. T. V. K. Agar.— Where can I get a greyhound; one that would be 
sure of a fox after once getting in gopd sight of him; also the price of 
such a dog? Ans. We never heard of a greyhound running down a fox, 
and unless trained especially for that purpose we do not believe he would 
rpn a fox on sight; even if he w r ere trained, we fancy the fox would have 
the best of it, not in a race, but in a fight. The price of greyhounds 
vary from $25 to $100. 
W. J. G. D., Hanover, Mich.—What are Mr. Macdona’s piices for his 
setter pups, and what does it cost to import them? Do you know of anj- 
genuine Gordon setter pups in this country that can be bought, and what 
are the prices asked for .them? Ans. From £10 to £25; the cost of im¬ 
portation would be about £8. Read Idstone’s letter on Gordons. We 
can procure two Gordon setter pups, never handled, nine months old, 
for $50 the pair. What do you think of the Bussey gyro pigeon trap? 
Ans. Have tried it frequently and it affords excellent amusement and 
good practice. . 
F. W. B , New York.—Please advise me through your Correspondent’s 
colur-n, the best point for fishing in the Adirondacks, where there are ac¬ 
commodations for ladies, also the way to get there? Ans. Paul Smith’s, 
St. Regis Lake, via Whitehall and Plattsburg, has the best accommoda¬ 
tion for ladies, but the conveniences at Bartlett’s, via Port Kent or 
Plattshnrg, are all that can be desired, and the hotel is more central to 
good fishing localities. 
E. S., Athens, Ga.—I have on my fish pond a number of ducks, a large 
puddle duck, scientific name not known. Do they destroy fish and fish 
spawn? Ans. All ducks will eat fish and frog spawn. We have found 
both in their stomachs, and in the stomachs of wood ducks. Some va¬ 
rieties eat more fioh than others. Should say that your puddle duck 
would make havoc with your fisli spawn, but would destroy none of the 
fish. 
Hue, Pittsburg, Pa.—Where canl get the best trout flies and the size 
of hooks needed for Pennsylvania mountain streams? What flies for 
August 1 st to 15th? Ans. Send your order to John Krider, Second and 
Walnut streets, Philadelphia. Always use small flies for trout and sal¬ 
mon, no matter how large the fish run. There are exceptional cases in 
which large flies are the most effective, but experience recommends 
small flies, and experts who formerly used large ones are now discarding 
them. August flies—August dun, orange fly, cinnamon fly, ibis, and 
coachman or stone fly for dark days and rainy weather, 
H. B., New York.—1. What place at Lake Umbagog, Me., should one 
stop at to find good trout fishing? Ans. Goto Bethel, on Grand Trunk 
Railroad and take stage to Upton. &. Can you give the name of some 
reliable guide there, also total expense per day for one? Ans. Charley 
Soule is a favorite guide. Pay for guides about $1 per day and found. 
3. Is there any other place in the above neighborhood you would rec¬ 
ommend in preference to said lake, and if so, how do you reach it from 
here? Ans. Yes; at Kimball’s, on Rangely. From New York to Bos¬ 
ton, Portland, Farmington, by rail, $11.50, thence stage to Phillips and 
Kimball’s; total, 36 miles; fare, $3. 
J. A. B., Birmingham, Mich.—What will a sail boat cost, such as yon 
have described in your paper, with an air tight bow and stern, full-rigged 
with sail, &c., to carry four or five persons? Are they durable? Ans. 
Do not know which style of boat you refer to. An open boat can be 
built for about $5 a foot in length, sail and spars say $15 additional. A 
regular centre-board, cat boat of the size you want would cost new about 
$250, complete. Any well built boat is durable, if properly cared for. 
Dr. G., Baltimore.—Where on the Bay of Fundy is a good place to ob¬ 
serve the highest tide, and at the same time to be well lodged and fed? 
Ans. At. Petitcodiac, on the European and N. A. Railroad. Fair coun¬ 
try inns. Good trout fishing in Pollet River and Anagance streams 
near by. Another better place, tide not quite so high, is at Windsor, 
Nova Scotia, on Avon River; pretty village, good hotel, no trout. 
The Fall meeting at Creedmoor will commence September 
22d, and continue several days. The Irish team will shoot 
on the 26th of September. 
—On Monday, the 20th of July, the Eleventh regiment, 
under command of Colonel Yilmar, were at Creedmoor. 
Order w T as rigidly observed, and the regiment behaved in a 
most creditable manner. The following are the best eight 
scores: 
Names. 
200 yds. 
Total. 
500 yds . 
Total. 
Grand 
Total . 
Sergeant Klump, Co. C.. 
2 3 2 2 3 
12 
3 3 4 2 0 
12 
24 
Private Gunther, Co. C . 
0 2 4 2 2 
10 
4 0 2 3 3 
12 
22 
Captain Polder, Co. F.... 
3 2 2 3 4 
14 
4 0 2 2 0 
8 
22 
Sergeant Lingler, Co. I.. . 
4 2 2 0 3 
11 
3 3 2 3 0 
11 
22 
Private Rulahd, Co. B. 
2 3 2 3 2 
12 
0 2 3 4 0 
9 
21 
Lieutenant Adler, Co. A. 
2 0 2 3 2 
• 9 
2 3 4 3 1 
12 
21 
Lieutenant Colonel Hubekant. 
2 3 2 2 3 
9 
3 2 2 3 2 
12 
21 
Sergeant Haaslacher, Co. F... 
3 0 4 0 2 
9 
4 2 3 0 2 
11 
20 
The total scores made by the first twelve constituting the 
regimental team, was 246, which is a very fair average. 
Subscriber, Boston.—Will you tell me what kind of a knapsack to 
take into the woods, and where can I procure one? Ans. Rubber one, 
with breast and shoulder straps. Go to R. G. Allerton’s, Broadway and* 
Fulton street. What clothes should I take with me? Ans. Plenty of 
warm woolen clothing, with an extra pair of boots. If you are not do¬ 
ing much tramping, a rubber bag, lacing at the end is preferable i o a 
knapsack. See vol. 1, No. 10, page 153. 
T. M. C., Lockhaven,. Pa.—Can you furnish me the addresses of some 
responsible dealers in venison in New York and Philadelphia whom you 
could recommerd? Ans. Robbins, Fulton Market, and Karr, Washing¬ 
ton Market. The rifle you ask about is admirable in every way. Th?s 
we know from our experience with the arm in the woods of Nova Scotia 
a fortnight ago. 
T. J. F., Montreal, Canada.-Can you inform me of the proper charge 
of powder (Curtis & Harvey) and shot to employ for killing with a 14- 
bore, double-barrel muzzle loader, 30-mch barrels, at a distance of 30 
paces, the following game: 
Answer. Answer. 
Duck (black.... ... 4* drachms powder.oz. shot. 
Wild pigeons. 3£ “ “ .1£ “ 
Hare (larger kind). 4 “ “ .i* 
Grey squirrels. . “ “ .l 
Pinnated grouse (partridge): 8* “ “ .Ij. 
Goose.. .. 5 “ .H 
Plover and sandpipers .2$ “ “ . j|. 
Snipe and woodcock.2* “ “ .i* 
J$it8WtfS §a j^oriiexyoiidcntS. 
B. L., and Others, Boston.—See answer in Editorial columns. 
T. P. C.—We have not been successful in finding yon a thoroughbred 
Cocker pup. 
j x,. Galveston, Texas.—Where can I procure spoon oars and stock¬ 
inette shirts? Ans. Kyle, boat builder, Harlem, N. Y7 Lord & Taylor 
will supply the shirts. 
F. G., 88 Wall st,, N. Y.—Will you inform me what advantages a moc¬ 
casin has over a boot or shoe? Ans. They are, or ought to be, imper¬ 
vious to water, comfortable to wade or walk in, easily slipped on and 
■off, and will last a long time. 
Q. H. Hoff, N. Y— Please inform me how to load a 10-bore, breech 
loading shot gun, 34-inch barrels, and how Wellington stands as a mar¬ 
ker? Ans. 4 drachms of powder and II oz. shot. The maker you men¬ 
tion is good. 
A. W. T., N. W.—How is the gunning and fishing in Cumberland 
township. Sullivan county, and are the streams which flow into the Del¬ 
aware at Pond Eddy navigable to the lakes for a small skiff? Ans. Small 
brook trout fishing in abundance. The only game bird in any number is 
the ruffed grouse. If the water is high in the streams you might get 
through, with a great deal of labor. 
(’rusty, Philadelphia.—Is the “Schnltze” gunpowder for sale in this 
country, has it been carefully tested, and if so what is the decision? Ans. 
We do not think “Schultze” pawder is for sale here. It has been suc¬ 
cessfully experimented upon in England,'and is used by many field 
sports in preference to ordinary powder on account of its being smoke¬ 
less. 
Clark, Grand Central Depot, N. Y.—I am going to Canada in August 
and have got a Colt’s revolving rifle. Would it be better to take a shot 
gun? Ans. We cannot say before we know what kind of game you pro¬ 
pose to hunt. The rifle could not be altered. 2. Is Orange Lightning 
powder better than Hazard’s for rifles? Ans. We do not know which 
is the best; it would cost you but a few cents to try them. 3. What 
would be the cost of an Indian bark canoe that would hold two, and 
which is the best fly for rivers in Canada? Ans. The canoe would cost 
about $15, gold. We cannot say, unless we know the river you propose 
to whip. Try clarets and yellows. 
J. F. C., Ottawa, Ill.—1. Which is the best powder for breech load¬ 
ers, Hazard or Orange? Ans. The best is a gopd, clear powder, rather 
coarse grain. 2. What Nos. and of which brand for duck, pinnated 
grouse, quail and snipe, with price; I desire best quality? Ans. We 
do not know which is the best brand. We use the same powder for all 
game birds; for duck shooting a little coarser; size 6 or 7. 3. What 
book would best instruct me in care and use of breech loading shot guns? 
Ans. W. Greener’s ‘‘Breech Loader,” $3.50; and“Gloan,” $1.50. 
Index, Battle Creek.—Wind galls, if not prominent, amount to very 
little. They may be dispersed by friction and bandaging, but generally 
return. They rarely affect the soundness of a horse. Don’t know of any 
cure. Founder may arise from over feeding or giving food or water 
after excessive work. When a horse has most anything the wise and 
unwise call it founder. It may be alleviated in mild cases, but for regu¬ 
lar founder it cannot be cured any more than can a galloping consump¬ 
tion be stopped in the man. No receipt for its cure;. Give rest, bathe 
the feet, legs and thighs with arnica or Pond’s extract. Give cooked 
food, remove shoes, and put the horse on a soft floor. Patience cures a 
foundered horse sometimes better than anything else; but then a found¬ 
ered horse is never worth anything after you have cured him. 
