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tew hundred at four cents each, and 

 then (lie price rapidly declined, until the larger portion of the 

 £q was sold at 50 cents per 100, About that time the un- 

 fortunate buyer called my attention to the fact that it was a 

 ; e chat such small mackerel were caught, and that 

 lUght to pass a. law to prohibit such a wicked waste. 



The first iOad or mackerel was followed bv several loads, 

 with hsh a very little larger in size, but about the 20th of April 

 a new sehool made iis appearance, the average weight of the 

 Qsh being about one pound each, and at least 1,500,000 of this 

 size have, up bo the present time, been marketed, and a large 

 portion of them have been sold as low as two cents each. 



The porgy, or, as it is sometimes called, the scup, is another 

 important Qsh that furnishes abundant and cheap food, and 

 >i which considerable Controversy has been had during 

 the past few years between the net men on one side and the 

 hook and hue men on the other, the latter claiming that the 

 pounds and traps of the former were exterminating these 

 b'sh, and efforts were put forth to have laws enacted that 

 should restrict or abolish pound and trap fishing. Bui 

 ing came of such endeavors. This was in 1871, and fishing has 

 been carried dd in the same manner ever since, and in the New 

 York market last week porgies sold as low as 75 cents per 

 barrel, or about one-half a cent per pound. 



1 might continue on through the list of food fishes, and oc- 

 Oupyytfur time and, possibly, your attention, but 1 think I 

 have said enough on this branch of the question. 



rvow, let us consider 'the menhaden fisheries, against which 

 is brought the charge that they are prosecuted to such an ex- 

 tent, by both sad and steam vessels, that they have materially 

 decreased the numbers of menhaden, and seriously impaired 

 the catch otfood fishes. You will find, by referring to the 

 reports of the United States Menhaden Oil & Guano Associa- 

 tion, that in 187. 1 ), with S283 sailing vessels, and 25 steamers, 

 492,878,000 fish were taken, that in 1881, with 2S6 sailing 

 vessels, and 7.'! steamers, 454,192,000 fish were caught, and in 

 L88S, with s:j steamers, and 212 sailing, only 846,688,000 were 

 caught, and last year, 1883, with 136 sailing, and (19 steamers, 

 there was the enormous catch of 613,361,000 fish. These 

 figures, taken in connection with the statements that have 

 been made to me by captains of merchant vessels and fishing 

 smacks, that during the fall of 1883 they sailed through miles 

 of menhaden, would warrant the belief that this fish is very 

 far from being exterminated, and that, with them as with 

 the food fishes that are taken for market, there are seasons of 

 great abundance, and seasons of scanty, and that up to the 

 present, time, these seasons have not been affected, either one 

 way or the other, by human agency. 



Another significant fact is, that during the early part of the 

 menhaden season of 1883; and up to nearly its close, the 

 fishing was so poor and unprofitable, that the fishermen 

 themselves began to think they had "killed the goose that 

 laid the golden egg,'' when all at once the fish appeared in 

 Countless numbers, and in a few days they had taken enough 

 to turn, what had promised to be a most disastrous season, 

 into one of large profit to all concerned. 



Now, having presented these facts to you in a crude and 

 disjointed form, permit me to say in closing, that although 

 what arc known as the hook and line, fishermen, almost 

 without exception, testify (and I believe truly) that they find 

 then- occupation and means of living seriously impaired, yet, 

 from my experience and observation in the markets, I believe 

 the facts to be that, with the exception of striped bass and 

 lobsters, all kinds of sea food fishes are as abundant now as 

 they were fifteen years ago, and, believing this, I am forced 

 to the conviction that any legislation looking to the restriction 

 of the fishing by the menhaden fishermen is unnecessary, and 

 that any Jaws prohibiting pound and trap net fishing would 

 cut off a large proportion of abundant and cheap food for the 

 people, and nothing would be gained. 



But f do hope that Congress will take some action that 

 will provide for the collection of statistics as to the quantities 

 of fish taken, so that in future, when questions affecting these 

 vast industries come before them, they wdl then be able to 

 frame legislation that will protect the fisheries, and not 

 oppress the fishermen. 



Mr. Endicott— I would like to ask Mr. Blackford to 

 state whether in his opinion the pollution of the waters 

 by gases and oils has a detrimental effect upon the fisheries. 



Mr. Bla.ckfokd— That is a question which, I believe, re- 

 ceived some attention at the last meeting of the Association 

 in the Cooper Institue, New York. On that occasion some 

 action was taken, which looked toward a petition for legisla- 

 tion to prevent the pollution of the water. I think it was ad- 

 mitted by all that it had been a source of great detriment to 

 the "fishing in our bays and especially in the New York Har- 

 bor. I will quote from the Report of the Association for 1883, 

 page 75. 



"Mr. Benkard: I wotdd like to bring up the subject of the 

 pollution of our waters, which brings many of our fishcultural 

 efforts to nought, f would respectfully offer the following: 



" Whereas, ft is the sense of this Association that the contin- 

 ual and increasing pollution of the waters of New York Bay 

 from the refuse of certain factories, threatens eventually to 

 kill or drive away all fish, shellfish and bivalves natural to 

 said waters • 



"Therefore. Be it resolved that this Association beg to call the 

 immediate attention of the Fish Commissioners of the State 

 of New York and New Jersey, also of the members of their 

 Legislature, to this impending calamity." 



I seconded that resolution and made a few remarks to the 

 effect that a great many fish, which had formerly been abun- 

 dant in the Bay. were no longer to be found there. Striped 

 bass, and particularly lobsters, had been driven out entirely. 

 These latter used to be taken abundantly on the Jersey flats. 

 Shrimps, too, which were very numerous and formed food for 

 larger fish, were almost exterminated, and what few remained 

 were tainted with a flavor of kerosene. Oysters and clams 

 have been killed by thousands in the vicinity of Roekaway. 

 The water has beeii so polluted by the factories of Barren 

 Island as to render a number of oyster beds, that used to be 

 considered valuable, of no importance whatever. I think, 

 though I am not certain, that the. New Jersey Legislature has 

 taken some action, and I am of the decided opinion that if our 

 Association moved in the matter, legislation could be brought 

 about which would be able to control this matter at least in 

 bur own State of New York. 



THE PENNSLY VANIA COMMISSION.— On June 16, Gov- 



enor Pattison appointed the following gentlemen to be Com- 

 missioners of Fisheries in place of the old board of which the 

 first three were members: James Duffy, Marietta; Arthur 

 Magixmis, Swift water; John Cay, Greehsburg; A. M. Spang- 

 ler, Philadelphia; August Duncan. Chain bersburg; Henry 

 Derr, W dkesbarre. 



WHAT THEY SAY OF "WOODCRAFT." 



' Woocleratf is the outer's vade mecum and will at once take rank 

 us a Standard authority, for it was written by "Nessinuk," a veteran 

 who has spent fifty years in the woods. Within its covers is a mass 

 of condensed information, which will enable even the tenderfoot to 

 "snVoqtl] LI a term whieb the author would have take the .place of 

 the familiar "ruusiiiiiK it.' 1 The subject of overwork and recreation 

 is brier:, ci asidered and some sensible advice given. Thenthe woods- 

 man's outiii, is described in detail ; camps and camp-fires are explained 

 with simple directions for making them properly; hunting and fish- 

 ing are lunched upon; and caujp cooking, that source of so much 

 trouble to the uninitiated, istreatedat length, until the vexed question 

 is made perfectly plain and with the Simple receipts laid down one 

 may fare sumptuously in camp. Going it alone for ten days in the 

 wilderness forms an interesting sketch, and the book winds up with 

 1 pie of chapters on can 2 canoeists may take excep- 



tion to a few of the idea-, advanced concerning canoes, but they will 

 nevertheless glean some useful hints and learn to admire the man 

 who can transport himself and his "duffle" so many miles in a ten. 

 and-a-half-poiind canoe.— Lowell <M><»s i On 



r jht Menml 



FIXTURES. 



BF.NCH SHOWS, 



Sept. Iti, 17 and 18,— Collie Bench Show and Field Trials of the 

 Ontario Collie Club, Toronto, Out. Mr. II. .). Hill, Secretary, Toronto, 



Sept. -.Ceneh Show of the Philadelphia Kennel (Jlub, iM i . BoD] 

 C. Satterrhwaite, Secretary. 



Oct. 8, !), 10 and 11.— Third Annual Bench Show of the. I'anhmy 

 Agricultural Society, Danbury, Oonn. E. S. Davis, Superintendent, 

 Danbury, Oonn. 



Oct. 21,SJ2. 88 ami 84, Non-sporting Bench Shew of the Westminster 

 Kennel Club, Madison Square Garden, New York. Mr. Charles 

 Lincoln, Superinte ndent. 



A. K. R. 



rpliK AjvtKRirAN KENNEL REGISTER, for the ceriatratiou of 

 J- pedigrees, etc. (.with prize lists of all shows and trials), is pub- 

 lished every month. Entries close on the 1st. Should be in early. 

 Entry blanks sent on receipt of stamped and addressed envelope. 

 Registration fee r,'F> cents i must accompany each entry. No entries 

 inserted unless paid in advance. Yearly subscription SI. Address 

 '•American Kennel Register," P. O. Box aHS3, New York. Number 

 of entries already printed 1319. Volume 1,, bound in cloth, sent 

 postpaid, $1.50. 



POINTERS AT THE NEW YORK SHOW. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



With huniility and awe I have folded my hands and listened 

 to the storm of "wordy war" that has been raging on this sub- 

 ject, till at last I have been impelled to have a word to say, 

 just to keep the fun going. 



Firet about Bang Bang. I do not quite understand the objec- 

 tion to the black cropping out in his get. A few years ago, 

 Princess, a black bitch, stood at the head of the heavy weight 

 bitches, and I have never heard or supposed that black was 

 not a pointer color. If black, why not black aud white ? It 

 surely is not impossible, nor if so, discreditable, that some of 

 Bang" Bang's ancestors may have been of that color. Is not the 

 objection purely a matter of fancy's 1 Mr. Wilms insinuates 

 that the superfluous hair had been removed from Bang Bang's 

 tail, but even if it was, I do not see how the carriage of it 

 could have been changed. I had a capital chance to examine 

 the dog, as he was taken down from his beuch for me, and I 

 must say that he is a very taking aud handsome little dog, 

 and that his tail is absolutely perfect in carriage, length and 

 fineness of bone, however it may have been about the ham. I 

 do not think that Bravo is better thau or as good as Bang 

 Bang. Bravo is a dog that I have never liked. I consider him 

 very deficient in pointer character. 



When Mr. Cornell says, however, that Bang Bang is "the 

 most strikingly handsome pointer in America to-day," I won- 

 der how he succeeds in blinding himself to the dog's loaded 

 shoulders and short neck. On the same principle, 1 suppose, 

 that he sees the crook in Beaufort's legs '"before and behind." 

 Mr. Cornell does not show very good judgment in calling re- 

 newed attention to his remark about Beaufort, that "his 

 hocks are [likewise] also bent." The tautology was not the 

 worst fault. The. whole remark was either "too much to say" 

 or a great deal too little. It is time that writers were more 

 definite in their language and more careful to use proper tech- 

 nicalities in criticising dogs. Would Mr. Cornell prefer to see 

 the dog's hindleg a straight line from the hip to the foot? A 

 dog's hindleg, being the motive power (Mr. Tracey to the con- 

 trary notwithstanding), ought to be bent at two places. The 

 hip and the foothold on the ground are the two fixed points; 

 the stifle (answering to the human knee) bent forward and the 

 hock (answering to the heel) bent back are the two angles at 

 which the whole leg is doubled up like a zig-zag spring" The 

 proper formation for any animal that has to gallop is— long 

 froru the hip to the stifle, long from the stifle to the hock, but 

 short from the hock to the ground, and the hocks well bent, 

 bringing the hindfeet under him. To say simply that a dog's 

 hocks are bent is to praise him at a most important point. If 

 Mr, Cornell meant that Beaufort's are bent outward, or in- 

 ward (cow-hocked), why not say so? I do not suppose he 

 meant that they were bent forward, and the only other way 

 possible is to be, as they are, bent backward, bringing his feet 

 forward and the leg from the hook down well under him. 



As to Meteor — the exponent of blue blood and high breed- 

 ing, long price and market value— how any one cotdd put that 

 bitch-headed brute before Beaufort I cannot understand. His 

 head is hopeless, his loin is too much tucked up, his color is 

 light and coarse, not the rich dark liver that Beaufort has, 

 and he is utterly lacking in quality. He has good legs, feet 

 and body; altogether he is a fair workmanlike dog, but miles 

 away from champion form. Beaufort, on the ' contrary, 

 though badly shown, is full of quality, and, except for a little 

 "straddle" behind and the throatiue'ss he gets from his she 

 Bow— who with Faust was held up for universal admiration as 

 ''the large pointer type" by Mr. Munson and his confreres 

 of the St. Louis Kennel Club — he is beyond criticism as a 

 show dog. Mr. Nixon speaks well of Beaufort's field qualities, 

 and I wonder if a bitchy head, poor color and general plain- 

 ness make Meteor a better field dog. A challenge on this 

 point yvould be in order about the end of November. 



Mr. Munson gets a good free advertisement by doing what 

 Mr. Mason very carefully refrained from — criticising his own 

 dog. Mr. Mason refused to say a word about Beaufort "tor 

 obvious reasons ;" the reasons are not sufficiently obvious after 

 all, it seems. Next time let not Mr. Mason leave any reason 

 unexplained because it is obvious. Explain it in capitals, 

 underlined and with three exclamation points, and perhaps it 

 will be understood. 



Mr. Munson's fiat of "mongrel" fired at Glemnark and Lily, 

 coming at this late day ,is simply amusing. Girl and Icicle I know 

 nothing about, but Glen mark was by Rush out of Romp, Rush 

 by Flake out of the despised Lily. Poor Lily I Why did she not 

 peacefully turn her toes up toward the beautiful "daisies with- 

 out having left any unfortunate progeny to fall under the 

 crushing weight of Mr. Munson's disapproval? In short, why 

 did she dare to exist at all? A bitch that produced six prize 

 winners in a single fitter, and in the second and third genera- 

 tion, more show winners a»d good field dogs than I care to 

 try and count, is a pretty good "accidental" breeder. Rush 

 was beaten once when a imp by his sire Flake, (was he a mon- 

 grel, too?) but never since in his class. I believe that he was 

 beaten two or three times for specials and sweepstakes by 

 heavy weight dogs. What small pointer had any chance against 

 Rush and Rose, and later Rush and that Queen of beauty, 

 little Rue (out of Ruby, by Flake out of Lily) '{■ In mercy to 

 the younger lot, the old dog was retired to give them a chance 

 and, though nine years old, I doubt if any small pointer on 

 this side of the water can beat him to-day. Not knowing 

 what they have in England, I do not want to claim absolutely 

 that he can beat the world, but I am willing to risk a feyy dol- 

 lars on his ability to do so. With the exception of his tail, which, 

 though fine and short, is not carried quite straight, and a very 

 very little more flness than I like, I think him absolutely perfect. 

 How many there are who agree with me, his record satisfac- 

 torily proves, and I question the taste of impugning Mr. 

 Orgill's honesty and the "straightness" of the pedigree of his 

 strain when he and the handsome and typical dogs he has 

 bred (not bought) and shown have taught Americans what a 

 pointer should be. 



As might be expected froin so thoroughly sportsmanlike a 

 breeder, all Mr, Orgill's dogs are field dogs, and Rush, though 

 beaten by La Guy at the Eastern Field Trials in 1880, proved 

 himself a game and level-headed little worker. It was thought 

 (from the confused orders of the judges) that his turn would 

 not be reached the first day, so, as he had had just a week's 

 preparation, the opportunity was seized by his handler to give 

 pirn a hard morning's work, and as he was called on to run 



that day after all, about half an hour after his well-earned 

 dinner, he. went rather stale compared to a fresh and fasting 

 dog. He made one flush and a false point where birds had 

 lately gone away, making out his mistake verv nicely in the 

 latter Case, though he got no credit for it. Nothing could be 

 liner than his attitude, on that point particularly, and in short, 

 in spite of the disadvantage he was under, he proved himself 

 a thoroughly good field dog. 



We breed pointers) I believe, for work and for looks, and 

 when Rush himself and so many of his blood have proved 

 themselves as good as- the best for both, it is natural to con 

 elude that the breeding is all right. 1 will venture to say that 

 the progeny and descendants of no one other pointer bitch on 

 record, have been remarkable for so high an average of excel- 

 lence as those dogs that, to their honor and credit, number tha 

 illustrious "mongrel" Lily among their immediate ancestry. 

 The first pointer bitch ia America to win at both bench show 

 and field trial, dam of a dozen winners, grand dam aud great- 

 grand dam of numbers almost uncountable— if she is a mon- 

 grel find her success as a brood bitch accidental, Heaven send 

 me a few such accidents. Geo. D. MACDOTJaALZ,. 



New Yokk, June 17. 



Editor Forest and Stream. 



For the editication of Mr, Mason and in Justice to Mr. 

 Cornell, allow me to state through your pa iter that my breed- 

 ing Grace to Beaufort did not in the least, "gall" that gentle- 

 man, for I had the honor of consulting with him about the 

 very breeding in question, and here are. his own words before 

 I bred to Beaufort; "I would prefer Vandevort's Don on ac- 

 count of his breeding, but if you can't get him I wcoild advise 

 you to breed to Beaufort, he is a good dog, but not the hand- 

 somest pointer living by any means; I would be very sorry to 

 let a feeling against the owner interfere with the use of a good 

 dog. He is throaty, bad at the pasterns and crooked the 

 wrong way behind, but Grace is old and he being a young 

 vigorous dog, he should get something good, especially as she is 

 particularly good where he is faulty."" Those wards clearly 

 show that my breeding to Beaufort is not "galling" to Mr. 

 Cornell, or I may add to any other member of the W. EL C. , for 

 I have given my opinion freely to several of them, and 

 although they did not agree with me they showed no slgn3 of 

 "galling." • 



I have broken dogs for the club, but am not entitled to the 

 honor of being called the club's breaker, for I am net the only- 

 one that breaks for the club, and lam just as independent of 

 the club as Mr. Mason. I do entertain the highest respect and 

 esteem for some few members of the W. K. C. whom I have 

 the honor of knowing, and Mr. Cornell is foremost among them. 

 I met him accidentally at the first New York show, and have 

 very frequently met him and shot with him in the field since 

 that time. He is a first-class field shot, an ardent lover of good 

 dogs, and a perfect gentlemen, besides being a most excellent 

 friend; and for those qualities alone and not because I cara 

 about breaking dogs for the club, do I hold him in the highest 

 esteem that I am capable of. I did say, and I now repeat that 

 Beaufort is (the best looking pointer of his size I ever saw, 

 but if both dogs were the same age and I had my choice, I 

 would take Sensation in preference. No matter ~ where or 

 what he won, he has the grandest head and neok that ever a 

 dog possessed. I bred to him three times, got thirty -six pups 

 and not a weed among them. Which one of them ever ran at 

 a field trial or was shown on the bench without getting 

 noticed? If I do as well with Beaufort's get I will be happy. 



Much as T admire Beaufort, I am not so blind but 1 can see 

 some foundation for Mr. Cornell's criticism of him, aud if those 

 people who have lately made insinuations against Mr. Cornell 

 will use reason, they will see that a person arguing a point 

 will always givo as "much force to his words as possible, and 

 while Beaufort is not a deformed cripple, but a grand dog, he 

 does toe in, is throaty, and stands so wide behind that a per- 

 sou might say he was extremely crooked, and still be a good 

 judge of dogs and an honorable man. Mr. Mason does injure 

 the iooks of "his magnificent dog by dragging and lifting on the 

 chain and trying to improve upon nature. 



In justice to Mr. Cornell, I would here state (and perhaps 

 you will remember the occurrence, Mr. Editor) that the same 

 criticism of Beaufort, given through your paper, by him. 

 lately, was made to me at the New York show of 1882, I 

 talked of buying Beaufort for a friend, and knowing that Mr. 

 Cornell had a knowledge of the dog which I had only heard of, 

 I asked his opinion, and here is his reply: "A fine dog, but is 

 bad at the pasterns. Very throaty and bent the wrong way 

 behind. I would not think of giving over three hundred dol- 

 lars ($800) for him." Those words were spoken by Mr. Cwmell 

 to me long before Mr. Mason owned the dog, and will show 

 clearly that Mr. C.'s opinion has not been changed on account 

 of any feeling that may have since sprung up between them. 



I would respectfully ask Mr. Mason or some one else who 

 has used the term "type" so much lately, to define the mean- 

 ing of the word as applied to pointers. I only know of two 

 distinct types of pointers, viz. : the Spanish and English. A 

 dog may "differ a little in form from another of the same type. 

 "With propriety, 1 think, a long back is just as good as a short 

 one if well-ribbed and strong at the loin, or a snort backisnot 

 a fault if the chest is deep, shoulders long and flat, and stifles 

 well bent. So long as the general principles of equality are 

 carried out, there is plenty of room for individual difference 

 within the same type. 



There is also too much said about bone. I never saw a duffer 

 yet but had "plenty of bone," and would often prefer looking 

 for more to hunting game. Mr. Donner's remarks were cor- 

 rect, and time will prove it so. We want quality, not quantity, 

 of bone. 



A man who is not a practical sportsman will not be a suc- 

 cessful breeder of pointers or setters, neither can a man who 

 has never handled a dog in the field be a competent judge in 

 the ling of pointers and setters, and if we are to have "logical" 

 judges, our sportiug dogs will only be such in theory by and 

 by. We want practical dogs, therefore practical 'breeders 

 and practical judges. Luke W. White, , 



Bridgeport, Conn. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In the American Kennel Register alone there are more than 

 sixty pointers who trace more or less remotely to Lily. 

 Among them are such dogs as Rush, Rue and Sefton. Ac- 

 cording to Mr. J. W. Munson she is a "mongrel." Assuming 

 that all owners are interested, and having two of her blood 

 myself, I now summon Mr. Munsou to prove his assertion in 

 the most clear and definite manner, sr to stand, convicted of 

 something a little worse than the misrepresentation he objects 

 to so forcibly, and I want proof and not assertions. 



In reply to Mr. Aldrich, I would simply say that if Beau- 

 fort be a cart horse in his opinion, I am content to be with a 

 good many breeders in thinking his opinion of not much 

 value. When he talks of showing eight weeks 1 old pointer 

 puppies on the bench he must want to show us how little he 

 knows of pointers. A dog that takes at least fifteen months 

 to mature can scarcely, in my opinion, be fairly judged at two 

 months, aud Major Taylor indorses this by his decision at 

 Chicago last week. T. B. Dorset 



Klucott City, Md. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



To those who do not know the membership of the W. K. C, 

 it would appear that those gentlemen who have defended the 

 recent pointer judging at the New York show are disinterested 

 persons, whereas they are either members of, or closely con- 

 nected with, the club; therefore I would suggest to those gen 

 tlemen that in order to economize the spaee of the Forest and 

 Stream, they should all unite in one article and sign it 

 W. K. G, and not their individual names. 



Mr. Smith says a "good dog is never a bad color," AgOOd 



