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j has placed these fish indicates roughly the climatological con- 
- ditions required. Tt is not likely that they will thrive much 
further south than their natural range, unless in elevated, and 
therefore cool, Boe iODe, 
_ As regards qualities of water other than temperature, I do 
not think landlocked salmon are specially fastidious, Muddy 
water is undoubtedly objectionable, but among their native 
haunts are many lakes whose water is strongly colored with 
peaty and earthern solutions, 
Gravelly shores and bottom are not essential, except on the 
breeding grounds, which must be ample to insure a great de- 
gree of success, A good-sized brook, abounding in gravelly 
rapids, will meet the requirements, Whether it should be 
an inlet or an outlet may be properly brought in ques- 
tion, It seems to me well proven that these fish are en- 
dowed with instincts of locality that impel them to deposit 
their eggs in their native streams, to the extent of selecting 
one among several streams connected with the same lake. 
On no other supposition can we Sepia certain phenomena 
atiGrand Lake, Junior Stream, at the head of the lake, is a 
fine gravelly stream, offering excellent locations for spawning 
beds, and more easily accessible from the lake than is Grand 
Lake Stream, and wasformerly much resorted to by the salmon, 
Of late, however, it is almost entirely deserted, notwith- 
standing the salmon are abundant in the lake, and thousands 
of them yearly resort to Grand Lake Stream at the other ex- 
treme of the lake. Whether this instinct will interfere with 
the use ot fry from Grand Lake eges for the stocking of waters 
whose only spawning grounds lie in their 4filuents is a ques- 
tion deserying consideration, but which we shall doubtless have 
to leave ta the solution of experience, It is interesting to note 
that in many of the Jakes where they have been introduced 
we hear of them first in the outlets. Such is the case at 
Woodhull Lake, in New York, and Squam Lake, in New 
Hampshire. Some of the new inhabitants have made them- 
selves known by running down into mill wheels. At Wood- 
hull Lake, “‘from appearances,” writes Gen. R. U. Sherman, 
‘the whole stock went out at Woodhull Dam through the 
open gates, and gathered in the stream below to spawn.” 
The question of enemies must be regarded as one of the 
first importance. I am inclined to attribute the disappearance 
of land-locked salmon in recent times from some of their old 
haunts in different parts of the Schoodic lakes, to the attacks 
of pickerel which were introduced from the Penobscot 
waters. I think it is capable of demonstration that in each 
instance where this has occurred the existing conditions 
were more favorable to the growth of pickerel than of 
landlocked salmon, <A case in point is that of Junior 
Stream mentioned above. The lower course of this 
stream is a broad, weedy, semi-stagnant piece of water, full 
of aquatic weeds, a most admirable place for the reproduction 
and growth of pickerel, which could here lie in wait for the 
young parr, and down whose capacious throats the entire 
brood may have slipped. The presence of pickerel is not, 
however, necessarily fatal. If the conditions are sufficiently 
favorable the salmon will maintain themselves. as at Grand 
Lake Stream. In general, any lake in which trout maintain 
themselves against pickerel may be considered suitable for 
land-locked salmon. It is quite possible that in some cases 
the salmon will succeed where trout have yielded to their 
tes but there is nothing in experience to warrant the expec- 
ation. 
The growth attained in sone of the instances cited above, 
lead to the hope that introduced to conditions more favorable 
than those of their native haunts, they will become perma- 
nently mereased in size and inimportance. Itis not too much 
to hope that in suitable tributaries of some of the great lakes, 
especially those of Lake Superior, Michigan and Huron, they 
may even become what they have never yet been in their 
ea homes in Maine, the objects of pursuit of an industrial 
shery. 
Prof, GoopE: Mr. President, [am sure we have all listened 
with great interest to the paper read by Mr. Atkins. It cer- 
tainly is 4 magazine of new facts concerning the land-locked 
salmon. Jshould like to take advantage of the presence of 
Mr, Atkins to ask one or two questions. The land-locked 
salmon is, | suppose, universally admitted to be a descendant, 
through moditication in habit, of the sea-running salmon. (To 
Mr. Atkins) Haye you in your studies of this fish been enabled 
to judge how long it has been since the land-locking tool 
place; or, rather, when the oldest and most recent land-lock- 
ings occurred? [vould also ask whether, in your opinion, 
the land-locking has produced an hereditary tendency in 
the fish to remain in the head waters of streams, so 
that if obstructions” are removed, fish descended from 
land-locked fish will also be likely to remain in the head 
waters. Iwould also ask,in the special interest of the fish- 
culturists of England, who at the present time are doing a 
_ great deal of work in the way of hybridizing various species 
and races of Salmonide, etc., whether our land-locked salmon 
could not be transported to Hngland and crossed with the 
large brook trout or the char? It would bea great advantage, 
for they would thus secure a heavier and better fish than the 
trout which they now have; and, moreover, a fish which 
would be likely fo remain in the head waters of the streams. 
Such is the theory of certain English experts, but it occurs 
to me that their theory is without very good foundation, 
Tf Wa. Atkins can throw any light on any of these questions, 
we shall all, I think, be greatly interested, : 
Mr, ArKins: I do not think we have any evidence that the 
land-locking of the species under consideration has occurred 
during recent geological periods. There is nothing at present 
to prevent any of these salmon from going out to sea from any 
of thess waters where they are now found. There are 
obstructious to their coming back, if they once went to the 
sea, and these same obstructions would hinder the sea salmon 
having access to the upper waters where the land-locked 
salmon now live. It is possible that at some very remote 
period there were obstacles which prevented their descending 
to the sea. I think it possible, also, that the change in their 
habits and instincts occurred gradually. The male salmon 
will live in fresh water until their reproductive organs are 
developed, which occurs at an early stage of their existence. 
I do not know thatit has been proved (excepting In the case 
of some other species than Salmo salar) that salmon can be 
kept from making migrations to the sea unti the eggs of the 
female become pretty well developed; but I think it possible 
that such ns may be iurnished. One salmon may haye 
stayed over the proper time—perhaps from compulsion, 
perhaps from some natural weakness of instinet—and she 
may have deyeloped eges without going to salt water, and 
her descendants may have inherited the tendency to remain 
in fresh water. That is, of course, mere speculation, without 
any obseryation to base it upon, excepting the absence of 
obstructions at the present time. That the lack of instincb to 
migrate seawards is hereditary, is unquestionably true. The 
salmon have an opportunity to go to sea, and do sometimes 
run down as far as the mouths of weirs, but apparently not 
with the intention of going to sea. As to the hybridization 
suzgested, I have never seen any evidence of its occurrence 
naturally among the salmon or any other species of fish, I 
have bad no experience in the matter of artiticially breeding 
hybrids, but the general testimony from those who have 
attempted to raise them, is that they grow, well and probably 
make good fish. 
The Presipent: Is 4 great depth of water necessary to the 
welfare ot the fish? 1 ask this becatise Ihave noticed that 
on Long Island in some sinall ponds they never come to any- 
Mr. Avxkins: I think probably that the depth of water is the 
most paper tent point to be considered. They will not thrive 
if compelled to sustain a high temperature of water. They 
must In the heated season be allowed to go into deep water 
where they can keep cool, 
Prof. Goons: Mr. Atkins, have you ever seen any indications 
of hybridization under natural conditions bet ween sea salmon 
and land-locked salmon? 
Mr. Arktwys: I never had an opportunity to observe anything 
of that kind. I have taken only four or fiye anadromous 
salmon in company with land-locked salmon, In Grand Lake 
Stream we have on seyeral occasions taken sea salinon that 
ascended to the lake and came to the same ground as the 
land-locked salmon for the purpose of spawning. Two of the 
above four or five were mated—male and female, and the 
others we took and made use of without waiting to see what 
the action of the fish would have been if left alone. 
Che Fennel, 
FIXTURES. 
BENCH SHOWS. 
Sept. 1 to 6—Bench Show of the Lancaster County Fair Association 
Lancaster,Pa. Entries close Aug.30. J. B. Long, Secretary, 6 West 
King street, Lancaster, Pa. 
Sept. 9, 10 and 11.—Third Annual Bench Show of the Montreal Ken- 
nel Club, Chas. Lincoln, Superintendent. J.S. Wall, Secreary, P. O. 
Box 1,246, Montreal, Canada. 
Sept. 16.17 and 18.—Collie Bench Show and Field Trials of the 
Ontario Collie Club, Toronto,Ont. Entries close Aug. 23. Mr. H. J. 
Hill, Secretary, Toronto. 
Sept. 16, 17,18 and 19.—Bench Show of the Philadelphia Kennel 
Club. Chas. Lincoln, Superintendent. Mr. Benj, C. Satterthwaite, 
Secretary. 
Oct. 6, 9, 10 and: 11.—Third Annual Bench Show of the Danbury 
Agricultural Society, Danbury, Conn. EH, 8. Davis, Superintendent, 
Danbury. Conn. 
Oct, 21, 22, 23 and 24.—Mirst Annual Fall Bench Shew of the West- 
minster Kennel Club, Madison Square Garden, New York. Mr. Chas. 
Lincoln, Superintendent, ; 
FIELD TRIALS, 
Dec, §.—Sixth Annual Trials of the National American Kennel Club 
at Canton, Miss. D. Bryson, Seeretary, Memphis, Tenn. 
A. Ka EY 
HE AMERICAN KENNEL REGISTHR, for the registration of 
pedigrees, etc. (with prize lists of all shows and trials), is pub- 
lished every month. Entries close on the ist. Should be in early, 
Entry blanks sent on receipt of stamped and addressed envelope. 
Registration fee (x5 cents) must accompany each entry. No entries 
inserted unless paid in adyanee. Yearly subscription $1. Address 
“American Kennel Register,*’ P. O. Box 2882, New York. Number 
of entries already printed 140'7. Volumet., bound in cloth, sent 
postpaid, $1.50, 
DOGGEREL. 
Bi was 4. city swell, and as he sauntered by 
With his lovely Laverack setter, so timid and so shy. 
His get up was tremendous and regardless of the cost, 
And¢ in self-admiration he seemed completely lost, 
A mighty smasher of glass balls, who dare his honors trench? 
His dog a ttial winner on many a hard-fought bench, 
What matters tho* he ne’er had sprung the woodcock in the swale, 
Or roused the booming grouse, or flushed the whirring quail, 
His hammerless is Blank’s best brand, his dog the choicest straia; 
Now country bumpkins stand aside, or meet with deep disdain. 
. October’s woods, in brown and gold, gleam in the morning light; 
‘Tis there he hopes to drop the grouse, or stop the woodcoek’s flight, 
And there he winds his eager way, his setter close behind, 
When lo| ye gods! what’s this he hears, like roar of rushing wind? 
Uprising at his very feet, a startled bevy springs, 
The air seems full of flying forms, and rapid, flashing wings. 
Our sportsman, dazed, in frantic haste fumbles his gun in air, 
Uncertain at which bird to shoot, he points.it here, then there; 
At last, in desperation sheer, he fires both right and left, 
But not a bird of all the lotiiwas of his life bereft. 
The covey out of sight had flown ere the shot had left the gun, 
While the lovely Laverack setter to his distant home had run, 
APOSTROPHE. 
These are the men and these the dogs we meet in dress parade 
Bach pleasant afternoon on the fashions’ promenade; 
Heroes of the club-room, they trumpet forth their fame, 
(Euchre, Brag and Poker, their more familiar game). 
But work in field and thicket (I tell you this zmcog.), 
Needs another breed of mau and another breed of dog. 
Rusty Cuss. 
POINTERS AT NEW YORK. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The following intelligible and intelligent reply to my letter 
in your issue of July 17, appeared in your columns last week, 
under Mr. John W. Munson’s signature. Jt is what a lawyer 
might term ‘‘a plea by confession and avoidance,” 
I don't propos? to reply in detail to Mr. Mason’s letter, which ap- 
peared in your paper last week, since it is so full of false statements 
and insinuations, that it would compel the denial of each and every 
one. Justice to myself and others, however, compels me to deny his 
assertion that lever had a pecuniary interest in the paper he men- 
tions, of ever contributed one cent toward it other than my subserip- 
tion and advertisement, for which I always paid the regular adver- 
tised rates. I feel confident the same can be said of Mr, Sterling. Mr. 
Pilkington. of England, who bred Meteor, sent him to St, Louis, say- 
ing he was by Garnet out of Jilt. This is sufficient. Mr. A. C, Wad- 
dell, of Topeka, Kas., writes me under date of the 24th inst.: “Mr. 
Mason has no authority in any way to state that I said Beaufort is a 
better dog than Meteor. * * * Inever said so.” 
Beaten in argument, faced by conflicting statements of very 
questionable appearance, unable to meet the serious charges 
brought against him, Mr. John W. Munson endeavors to extri- 
cate Timselt from the difficulty by accusing me of presenting 
your readers with false statements and imsinuations. This 
novel style of argument may be well adapted to those that 
hope by such means to avoid just and well-earned retribution. 
But I can assure Mr. Munson thatin this case there is no 
chance of escape through sucha channel. Before I proceed 
let me remind Mr. Munson that when gentlemen join in a dis- 
cussion they retire therefrom as they enter—gentlemen. 
Unless argument, logical and sound, is introduced to support 
a charge of falsehood, it is not allowed as evidence by persons 
either intellizent or ignorant. That Mr. Munson’s case has 
been a lame one from the outset is an undeniable fact, and so 
he once*more resorts to the old, old argument of abuse. No 
defense! Abuse the plaintiff! Unfortunately (for Mr. Mun- 
son) the plaintiff in this case likes abuse, every ounce of which 
adds aton of weight to his case; and when a verdict is reached 
the sentence likely to follow it will, [ have every reason to 
suppose, be as severe as any yet rendered by the dog lovers’ 
tribunal of this or any other country. Mr. Munson does not 
appear to realize that when he denies my letter he either con- 
yicts himself of falsehood or charges me with fraud. Such 
being the case, I propose, by Fou courtesy, Mr. Editor, to vin- 
dicate myself, and leave Mr, Munson to do the same—if he can, 
Mr, Munson wrote in your issue of June 12; ‘*1 am willing to 
Al 
go on record as saying that Meteor and Bang Bang are (barring 
the head of each, which, I think, could be slightly improved) 
the best pointer dogs in America, and the only type of the 
pointer to breed to,” Two months previous to this Ma. Mun- 
son wrote me two letters; as follows: 
; St, Louis, April 9, 1884, 
Chas. H. Mason, Esq., N. ¥.: 
De5sR StR—I expect to catch fitsin the papers for passing Bang Bang 
by at Cleveland, but I am sure I put the ribbons where they belonged, 
iam not pleased with Bang Bang, * * * Tam told Beaufort is a 
remarkably handsome dog. Yours truly, 
: Jouyn W. Munson. 
Sr. Lovts, April 15, 1884. 
DEAR Sir—Your favor of the 12th to hand. If 1 had thought Bang 
Bang the best dog at Cleyeland he would have won first. I thought 
him good enough for second only. Idon't fancy his head, especially 
his front face, and eyes. The latter are black and cocked, showing 
the inside white of both when he looksat you. I don't think his tail 
food, nor his throat. In fact, 1 don’t think him a first-class dog. 
Very respectfully. 
Joun W. Munson. 
Mr. Mumson denies having written these letters, and there- 
fore Linclose them herewith, and in justice to myself will ask 
you, Mr. Editor, landly to say whether they are in Mr. Mun- 
son’s handwriting or not, and I now call on Mr. Munson to 
explain the meaning of such work. [There is no doubt that 
the letters referred to were written by Mr. Miunson.—Ep. F. 
AnD §.] I do this in the interest of pointer breeders and ex- 
hibitors. Mr. Munson, I believe, has officiated as judge at 
seyeral dog shows, and it is only proper that those who haye 
submitted their exhibits to his judgment, should know exactly 
who judged their dogs. Mr. Munson somewhat evyasively 
denies that he has money in the only paper that indorsed Mr. 
Sterling’s decisions and conduct at the New York show. Not- 
withstanding his negative reply, I am assured by those in 
whom I haye confidence, that, if Mr. Munson looks through 
his cash book he will again find himself mistaken, I will, 
however, cheerfully accept his statement when he has cleared 
up several other matters in a satisfactory manner, but not 
until, May I now ask Mr. Munson what moral right he and 
his friends have te twist my writing into such shape as to 
suit themselves? Ihave never said or written that Mi 
Waddell ‘said Beaufort is a better dog than Meteor.” What 
I did write was that Mr. Waddell said Beaufort was the best 
large pointer he had eyer seen. He said it to me and I believe 
he said it to others. What Mr. Waddell said about Meteor I 
am not at liberty to repeat, To say that Beaufort was the 
best large pointer he had ever seen was not to say that he 
considered him a better dog than Meteor. In the first place, 
Mr. Waddell might not consider Meteor a large pointer, and 
in the second place he might share the opinion of a good many 
other people and not consider him a pointer at all. Why, 
when I challenged Mr, Munson to name one judge who con- 
siders Meteor a better dog than Beaufort could he not reply? 
I will tell him. He does not know one. I gave him thenames 
of the oldest and best judges, such as Mr. Steel and the 
Messrs. Orgill, insupport of my own judgment, and I showed 
him clearly that every independent paper had denounced the 
decision. Surely such and the like evidence ought to be sub- 
stantial enough for Mr. John W, Munson, who considers dogs 
bad looking one month and the best m the country two 
months later. 
A very sensible writer in a contemporary last week. offers 
some very sensible suggestions. Says he, ““Why do not bench. 
shows follow the example of the field trial clubs and disbar 
any one making unjust and uncalled for remarks about their 
judges?” This is what they ought to do, but unfortunately they 
refuse to do it; thev rather prefer to do that which they ought 
notto do, It isa pity this intelligent writer forgot to say 
that exhibitors as wellas judges have a claim to protection 
against unjust decisions, and questionable conduct m general. 
{have been accused of slandering Mr. Sterling. If adding 
my name to a protest against his decisions was slandering hin, 
why then I am proud of being charged with such a dreadful 
crime, A great noise has been raised about that protest by 
those who delight to blind the public to serve their own pur- 
pose, but people are getting tired of that sort of thing and 
will not forever tolerate it. The questionable conduct of 
others cannot be hidden by throwing mud at me. 
I find myself unable to agree with Mr. Munson when he says 
that because “Mr, Pilkington, of Bngland, who bred Meteor, 
sent him to St. Louis saying he was by Garnet out of Jilt. - 
This is sufficient.” Mr. Munson will excuse me, but itis not 
quite half sufficient. Mr. Pilkington is a man of honor and a 
gentleman, and the pointers he sent to the St. Louis Kennel 
Club in the spring of 1881, would doubtless be bred as certified 
toby him, Let it be understood that I donot question the cor- 
rectness of their pedigree. Letit also be understood that Ido very 
much question the correctness of the pedigree of the two dogs 
Meteor and Maxim, exhibited by Mr, Munson at the New York 
show this spring, and entered in the catalogues as by Garnet 
out of Jilt, age three years. Such being the case I now 
summon Mr, Munson to state and solemnly swear in the pages 
of FOREST AND STREAM that the two dogs now being exhibited 
by him are the dogs Meteorand Maxim sent to this country by 
Mr. Geo. Pilkington, three years ago. When Mr. Munson re- 
plies I will have something of interest to say to him. In his 
last letter Mr. Munson alludes to justice. Far be it from any 
intention of mine to deprive him of it. 
A friend of Mr. Munson has suggested I be barred from ex- 
hibiting my dogs at bench shows, because ‘I disturb the har- 
mony and am prejudicial to the best interests of all con- 
cerned.” Nobody regrets more than myself that I am com- 
pelled to ‘disturb the harmony” or that lam prejudicial to 
the ‘best interests of all concerned.” But, Mr. Editor, it 
must be done, and LI have clad myself with armor of steel, 
and am prepared to face the dangers likely to be encountered 
by those who attempt to “disturb the harmony” or interfere 
with the interests of '‘all concerned,” 
“The time is out of joint; O cursed spite, 
That ever I was born to set it right.”’ 
CoaruEes H. Mason, 
TOMPEINSVILLE, Staten Island, Aug. 4. 
THE PROPER SIZE OF BEAGLES. 
Editor Forest and Stream: , 
Being much interested in articles in FOREST AND STREAM, as 
to ‘the proper size” and “shooting over beagles,” 1 yenture to 
give my experience with them, and my opinion as to their 
proper size, | having owned probably more of different strains 
than, with one or two exceptions, any member of the beagle 
chib. 
My dogs are kept for private shooting and sport, and have 
razged from eighteen down to eleyen inches, and t roost em- 
phatically indorse the smaller dog for sport, with or without 
the gun. 
A large dog, I find, runs too fast and overruns the doubles 
too much and far, he sometimes runs fifty or one hundred 
yards before he finds his mistake, he then circles until he finds 
the trail and so onat nearly every double of the samein a 
close or woody country, if in the open it is one straight dash to 
the nearest hole, the nearer the hole the less sport we have. 
A small dog will uct oyerrun as much or as far, because he 
is slower in his pace, he works a double better, does not circle 
as much as a large dog; he keeps the game onthe move about 
fast enough to follow with or without the guu, and will give 
you more shots, becanse the game does more doubling and 
does not take to the earth until shot at, or very near tired ont, 
therefore, in my opinion, he isthe best dog for sport with or 
without the gun. 
I have always found three dogs a plenty, and oyer four too 
many, for in 4 larger number there are elke some that are 
inclined to hayetoo much tongue, and will keep on crying 
when the trailis overrun and will bring the others to them, 
