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is a very difficult thing to do, and it seems to me that there 
should be incorporated in the laws a provision for the punish- 
ment of a man found on a area with implements for taking 
oysters. His presence under such circumstances should be 
sufficient ground for his arrest, because evidently his intention 
is to take oysters. The excuse cannot be made that he mis- 
took the sround, for each area is marked plainly. When you 
see the dredging-line going, it is pretty good -proot that oysters 
are being taken. Public opinion is now very strong against 
the stealing of oysters, and it certainly seems to me that a 
provision should be made which would assist the oyster grower 
in bringing an offender to justice. 
DR. Hupson: I think that. what Lieut. Winslow has said 
would be readily acknowledged by any who have looked into 
the matter. The Connecticut Commissioners are anxious for 
favorable legislative action on this matter; but, as I have 
Stated, there is unfortunately this controversial feeling which 
has arisen between the natural growers and the cultivators, 
which has thus far been the means of preventing the enact- 
ment of such laws as Lieut, Winslow has referred to. I have 
no doubt, however, that perhaps in the immediate future suit- 
able laws will be passed, 
Lieut. Winstow: Iwould like to say in addition that I do 
not know of any State that has made so greatian advance in 
this matter as Connecticut. By examining the legislation on 
the subject for the last four or five years, it may easily be seen 
that it is of the most practical nature, and itis based on sound 
business principles. The people of Connecticut, proverbially 
shrewd, have certainly managed to get all the milk out of this 
particular cocoanut. 
Pror. Goopr: I think that there can hardly be too much 
stress laid upon the importance of the work which Dr. Hudson 
and his colleagues are carrying on, the results of which have 
been described by him this morning. Ihave been looking into 
the history of the oyster industry of Hurope lately, and am 
convineed that Connecticut is putting into practice the best 
system of oyster culture in the world. The manner in which 
that State is dealing with the questions of fishery legislation is 
certainly extremely interesting and worthy of commendation. 
The eyes of the world are upon Connecticut at the present 
time. I can appreciate this fact perhaps better than most of 
us here, haying heard the eager questions and seen the intense 
interest of the fisheculturists and oyster raisers of Hurope last 
summer in London. and having heard what was said concern- 
ing the action of Connecticut. HEyery country which has any 
eyster fisheries is trying to solve the same problem, viz,, how 
to protect the beds and give oyster culturists right of property 
by the fruit of their labors, It really appears to me that this 
subject—the progress of the work. in Connecticut—is one of the 
most interesting that could be brought before this society, 
WYOMING.—A recent number of the Laramie Sentinel 
gives the following: “‘A law was passed at the last Legislature 
—an act for the propagation and culture of fish in Wyoming— 
Chapter 45 of the Session Laws. It provided for the appoint- 
ment of a Territorial Fish Commissioner, by virtue of which 
Otto Gramm, of this city, was appointed and confirmed. 
The Act further made an appropriation of $500, for the 
construction of a hatching house, to be located at some 
suitable place in the Territory by the Fish Commissioner, 
with the advice and consent of the Governor, After con- 
siderable trouble and delay Commissioner Gramm. has at last 
succeeded in getting the location fixed for the hatching 
house. Ibis to be located at the ‘Soldier Springs” near this 
city—the springs which watered Fort Sanders. These springs 
furnish an inexhaustible supply of the purest water, and are 
so located that large reseryou's can easily be constructed. 
Cominissioner Gramm bas secured the services of G. FP. 
Slocum, a gentleman who for ten years past has been in the 
erm oy of the lowa Fish Commission and is-perfectly familiar 
with all operations and details. Mr, Slocum will superintend 
the construction and operation of the hatchery for the next 
six months and get everything into working order. Work 
will commence ina week or ten days. Commissioner Gramm 
has made arrangements to secure a large lot and variety of 
eggs from the Fish Commissioners of Jowa and Wisconsin. 
He has also the promise of some eggs of the rainbow trout 
from California, As soon as this establishment is fairly in 
operation Mr. Gramm expects to be able, at very much less 
expense than heretofore, to supply the whole Territory with 
suitable kinds and varieties of fish spawn in any desired 
quantity, The thorough knowledge of the business, combined 
With the public spirit and enthusiasm which Commissioner 
Gramm brings to the discharge of his duties, insures success 
in this enterprise of fishculture. It is fortunate that the 
inauguration ot this infant industry is committed to so good 
hands.” 
answers to Correspondents. 
(= No Notice Taken of Anonymous Correspondenis, 
W. H.D,, Jr., Dubuque.—We know of none, 
¥F, W. ., Lafayette, Ind.—Write to Reiche Bros., Chatham street, 
New York. 
2. W. B., Wakefield, Mass.—Law on ruffed grouse in your State is 
np Sept, 1 
H. L., Brooklyn, N. ¥,—1If any portion of a boat, meluding her 
spars or oars, touch another boat or a mark, it is considered a foul. 
W. H. B., Deposit, NW. Y.—The protector for county of Broome is 
Tf. P. Drew, Washington Mills; for Delaware county, Francisco 
Wood, Se hoharie. 
J.G. W.—Wor lug sail for Rob Roy, take 74ft. on foot, 54ft. head, 
ft, luff, 824ft, leach, tackto peak 934ft., clew to throat 8¢ft., 45fb. 
avea, This sail is rather lage, but can be reduced proportionately 
for eruising, 
Inguirner.—Could you inform me as to the best bait for catching 
pike and German carp? They are very numerous in our lake but we 
eannot catch them with ordinary bait? Ans, The best bait for pike 
is the mmnow, live or dead, and the trollmg spoon. For carp several 
baits are recommended, boiled peas, a mixture of dough and cotton, 
angle worms, ec. ; 
THE WORM WEDGE. 
OME time ago there wasa great outcry that the English 
anti-pigeon shooting agitation was the entering wedge 
which should ultimately disrupt the interests of sport and the 
general well-being of this country. We haye not heard much 
about this lately, but there is now ample material for further 
alarm. im the Chicago Oriterion of Aug, 25, the following 
note occurs: ‘The English government has passed a law for- 
bidding the use of angle worms as fish bait, so that the angle 
worm paragraph will be seen no more in English comic 
papers.” An esteemed Michigan correspondent sends us the 
clipping and anxiously inquires whatit means, It may imply 
one of two things, either the British are sick and tired of the 
reiteration of that-angle worm joke, and are determined to 
suppress the funny man even at the expense of their fayorite 
sport, or else it means that they have taken pity on the worm, 
and propose in the future to protect him from impalement on 
the barbed hook. There is good reason then for regarding 
this ag another direful ‘‘wedge” against sport, and we shall 
await with interest to hear the howl go up again that our 
navional institutions are endangered. 
Over SHyanTeen THousanD Mun were paid cash benetits in 1883 by 
the Travelers Insurance Company, of Hartford, Conn., for losses by 
accidental death and disabling injury.—Adv. 
Che Fennel, 
FIXTURES, 
BENCH SHOWS. > 
Sent, 9, 10 and 11.—Third Annual Beneh Show of the Montreal Ken- 
nel Club, Entries close Sept. 1, Chas. Lincoln, Superintendent. J. 
8. Wall, Secretary, P. O. Box 1,246, Montreal, Ganada. 
Sept. 16, 1% and 16—Collie Bench Show and Field Trials of the 
Ontario Collie Club, Toronto,Ont, Entries close Aug, 28. Mr. H. J. 
Hill, Seeretary, Toronto, 
Sept. 16,17, 18 and 19.—Bench Show of the Philadelphia Kennel 
Ree SOU Lincoln, Superintendent. Myr, Benj. 0. Satterthwaite, 
Secretary. 
Oct, 5,9, 10 and 11.—Vhird Annual Bench Show of the Danbury 
Agricultural Society, Danbury, Conn, Entries close Sept. 27. E, 8. 
Davis, Superintendent, Danbury. Conn. 
Oct, 16, 17 and 18.—National Breeders’ Show, Industrial Art Hall, 
Philadelphia, Pa. James Watson, Secretary, P.O. Box 770. Wntries 
close Oct, 38. 
Oct. 21, 22, 23. and 24,—First Annual Fall Beneh Show of the West- 
minster Kennel Club, Madison Square Garden, New York, Entries 
close Oct. 6. Mr. Chas. Lincoln, Supermtendent. 
. FIELD TRIALS. 
Nov. ——Third Annual Trials of the Robins [sland Club, Robitis 
Island, L.T, Open to members only. Mr, A. T. Plummer, Secretary 
Noy. 17.—kixth Annual Trials of the Mastern Wield Trials Club, at 
High Point, N. ©. W. A. Coster, Secretary, Flatbush, L, 1. 
Dec. 8 —Sixth Annual Trials of the National American Kennel Club 
at Canton, Miss. D. Bryson, Seeretary, Memphis, Tenn, 
Dee. 15.—Southern Sportsmens Association Trials, Ganton, Miss. 
My, T. K. Renaud, Seeretary, New Orleans, La. = 
A. K. R., 
HH AMERICAN KHNNEL REGISTER, for the registration of 
pedigrees, ete. (with prize lists of all shows and trials), is pub- 
lished every month. Hntries close on the ist. Should be in early. 
Entry blanks sent on receipt of stamped and addressed envelope. 
Registration fee (25 cents) must accompany each entry. No entries 
inserted unless paid in advance. Yearly Subseription $1. Address 
“American Kennel Register,’ P. O. Box 2882, New York, Number 
of entries already printed 1490. VolumeT., bound in cloth, sent 
postpaid, $1.50, 
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
In reply to the letter of the editor of the American Kennel 
Register in. your issue of Sept. 4, les me say that it was not the 
intention of the Westminster Kennel Club to confine the 
National Association exclusively to those clubs which had 
given shows but to include all formed for that purpose. Per- 
sonally I would extend it to the field trials clubs, but that is a 
matter which doubtless will be discussed at Philadelphia, The 
“newly organized elubs” are perfectly justified in overlooking 
the wording of the call. I may add that I am satisfied that 
Major Taylor agrees with me on the first point, but I am sorr 
to say that he does not believe in admitting the field bridle 
organizations. ELLIOT SMITH, 
New York, Sept. 4. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
At a meeting of the Howard County Kennel Club, of Mary- 
land, held this day, the following officers were elected: Presi- 
dent, M. D. Groverman; vice-president, N. Dorsey; treasurer, 
J. H. Leishear; secretary, T. B, Dorsey. Mr. T. B. Dorsey 
was chosen as the delegate to represent the club at the coming 
convention at Philadelphia. T, B. Dorsey, Secretary. 
Eniizcorr Crry, Md., Sept. 2. 
Kditor Forest and Stream: 
On Wednesday, Aug. 27, the Franklin Sportsman’s Club and 
Game Protective Society elected the followime officers: Alex- 
ander Vincent, President; J, B. Nicklin, Sr., Vice-President: 
GC. D. Elliott, Secretary; Wiliam Wenzel, Treasurer; Dr. I. 
St. Clair, R. G. Lamberton, Carl P. Sibley, H. Jennette and 
James Quinn, Directors, and G. 5. Creswell, Attorney for the 
Club. J. KE. Gill was named as representative to the National 
Bench Show Association at Philadelphia, Sept. 16. As our 
club has held a bench show under the rules of the N. K. A., 
we consider we are entitled to representation, Please publish 
this in your next issue of the FornST AND StRHAM and oblige, 
C. D, ExLtort, 
FRANELIN, Pa., Sept. 1. 
(Dr. J. 5. Niven and Mr. T. G. Davey will represent the 
Dominion Kennel Club .] 
LANCASTER BENCH SHOW. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The bench show, held at Lancaster in connection with the 
county fair, has proven beyond doubt that bench shows in 
Lancaster, held yearly and under experienced management, 
can be made a success and would prove profitable. J cannot 
refrain from giving the manzgers of this year’s show afew 
taps. The benching was excellent, and the dogs were supplied 
with water at regular intervals, but the bedding and feeding 
of dogs was left entirely to exhibitors. This is a great mis- 
take, for it would be against common sense for exhibitors 
from a distance to send their dogs to a show where they know 
their dogs will not be cared for. I haye no doubt the man- 
agement will make different arrangements in another year, 
and then it will become a pleasure to exhibit at their shows. 
English setters were an excellent class, mostly entries of 
Mr. H. B. Vondersmith, of Lancaster, and to his credit be it 
said that he possesses some extra fine dogs. Duke, the first 
prize winner, is a fine Laverack and fit for any company- 
Flash, the other eniry in setter dogs, is off in eyes and nose, 
being a triffe snipy, otherwise a nice dog. In bitches the first 
prize winner is a beautiful looking bitch; head good, with ex- 
ception of ears, which are too much on the spaniel order. 
May, a good bitch, should haye exchanged places with Lill. 
Snowflake, a pure white, with exception of a few small spots 
on head, possesses good coat but avery bad tail. In puppies 
Gertie is a first-class puppy; not much to choose between her 
and Nettie, a little Laverack beauty. Don is also quite a good 
one. The othertwo entries were not as good, the legs of the 
one being especially bad. 
In Tail setters there was only one entry, and she was off in 
color, consequently received no mention. 
The class of Gordon setters showed a dog of splendid color 
and good all over, in Tom, . Bess is showing age, yet possesses 
lots of quality. In puppies, Mab with her litter of puppies 
was a pleasing sight, Countessis also a promising puppy. 
The remaining entry was not good enough to win. 
All of the pointer entries were of the small variety. Nellie 
Bird is a. splendid bitch and looks every ineha worker. Her 
ears might be carried a trifle better, and her muzzle be a trifie 
better, but otherwise she is near perfection. Lady Bird is a 
nice bitch, but not the equal of Nellie. Lady Bird, with her 
litter of nine puppies, formed the most interesting part of the 
exhibition; they were a beautiful lob, sired by Shot, all of 
them solid liver. Biz and Quail, in puppy class, are a promis- 
ing pair. Biz has somewhat the best head, butin body and 
chest Quail surpasses him, , 
Tn beagles Rena was by long odds the best. Sheis one of the 
best beagle bitches in this country. Her large and pleading 
eyes obtained for her many pats from beautiful hands. Bessie 
is not a bad bitch, Victor I did not like as well; he carries his 
ears badly, Don is good in coat, eyes, ears and body, bub is 
undershot and not quite straight in the legs. The remaining 
entry, [am convinced, was a foxhound puppy- 
In collies there were only two entries. In sheep dogs, both 
Sport and Rhoderick were strong-boned, powerful dogs. They 
were tightly placed. ; a 
The only entry in fox-terriers was quite a fine specimen and 
well deserved his card). 
Dalmatians only had one entry and he was Gale passable, 
In French poodles, Mr. Liller, of Lancaster, showed a pair 
of beauties which, without a doubt, can hold their own in any 
company. 
In the miscellaneous class a powerful young dog, a cross be- 
tween a bloodhound and «# Newfoundland, was shown. 
LIST OF AWARDs. 
Ht Setters, Dogs.—ist, Vondersmith’s Duke; 2d, Fordney's 
ash, 
English Setters, Bitches.—ist and 2d, Vondersmith’s Lill and May, 
Enghsh Setters, Puppies.—ist and 2d, Vondersmith’s Gertie and 
on. 
orden Setters, Dogs or Bitches.—_1st and 2d, Vondersmith'’s Tom 
aud Bess. 
Gordon Setters, Puppies—lst and 2d, Vondersmith’s Mab and 
Countess. 
Pointers. Dogs or Bitches,—ist and 2d, Jos. Trissler’s Nellie Bird 
and Lady Bird, 
Pointers, Puppies.—ist and 2d, Trissler’s Biz and Quail, 
peaeees: Dogs or Bitehes.—ist, A, C. Krueger's Rena; 2d Nissly’s 
essie, 
Collies.—ist and 2d, Simon B. Cameron's bitches. 
seep Dogs.—ist, W. J. Madden’s Sport; 2d, J. F. Heinitch’s Rhod- 
erick, 
Fox-Terriers,—ist, J. H. Shepherd’s Gypsy. 
Daimatians.—ist, Wraim’s Jack. 
French Poodles.—1st, and 2d, Liller’s dog and bitch, 
Miscellaneous.—Ist, 0, W. Eshleman’s dog. 
WRIGHTSVILLE, Pa., Sept. 4, 1884. RAZOR. 
GREAT DANES. 
We published last week a letter from Ma. D, Frank to the 
Live Slock Journal relative to the Great Dane, boar- 
hound, Ulmer dogee and German mastiff. We are indebted 
to thesame journal for the following correspondence upon the 
subject: 
D. Frank, in his article on these breeds, which appeared in 
your issue of Aug. 1, premises his remarks with rather an 
ambiguous statement, in which he seems to endeayor to make 
out that he is treating of a breed—to use his words (but, m 
reality, a group of breeds possessing more or less aftinity)— 
that scarcely anybody understands. ‘That these breeds are ati 
eeu but imperfectly understood by the majority of Hng- 
ishinen who adimire these large dogs, 1 admit (and, moreoyer, 
haye a very strong suspicion that most foreigners—especially 
Frenchmen—know still less about them); at the same time, 
there have been, 4nd are, in this country judges of the dog 
who understood and understand these breeds quite as well as 
D, Frank, and could describe them quite as clearly, In a con- 
temporary some four or five years since, [myself pointed out 
the grades of difference between the heayy mongrel German 
mastiff, the rough Suliot or Austrian boarhound an¢l the grey- 
hound-like Great Dane, who forms a sort of connecting link 
between the true Vertragal and Molessian groups. There are, 
however, several important remarks in Mr. FWrank’s letter. 
First, he rightly points out-the difference between the pure- 
bred Great Dane and his allied mongrel cousin the Gsrman, 
or as itis generally known to English breeders as the Ulmer 
imastiff, a name obtained simply through being found existing 
in good mastiff-like type around Uln. Mr. Frank points out 
that smooth-coated dogs are not fit for hunting wild boars, 
This may be a sporting fact, of which I plead ignorance; at 
the same time I can only say, taking an mterest in the subject, 
I have inspected many pictures by foreign (chiefly German) 
artists of boar hunting seenes, in which many of the dogs em- 
punved have been smooth-coated, others maned (asin Hogarth’s 
ulldog), others protected with a coat of armor, while some 
have approached the rough Austrian Suliot boarhound in 
type. Owing to this, [ have always classed these allied breeds 
roughly as boarhounds, but see the atlvisability of particular- 
izing the various breeds. 
There is one point I should like to be further enlightened 
upon by Mr. Frank. He states that the German miastiff was 
a breed originated by Otto Friedrich, of Zaherse; now, per- 
haps I may be very ignorant, but cannot recall ever haying 
heard of that worthy man, and should be glad if D, Frank 
would mention about the date of the manufacture of the Ger- 
man mastiff, for I thought it was a very old variety, and haye 
seen mastili-like looking dogs painted by Weenix Sneyder and 
other German artists, introduced into pictures of wolf and boar 
hunting that if in the flesh, would hold their own, as not mere 
outsiders, if shown among a class of Hnglish mastiffs, Now, © 
am well aware artists often make very great mistakes through 
not being aw fait in the subject they depict, still these artists 
must have had such animals to depict from, andsuch pictures 
are a standing proof that such animals existed at their date 
and the artist often becomes the natuaralist’s historian. I 
should much like to trace the origin of the German mastiff, 
also of the Great Dane, the latter I believe to be identical with 
the large greyhound-mastif-like dog figured on Hgyptian 
sculptures. I have been puzzled to trace how the breed ob 
tained the name of Great Dane, and have endeayored to trace 
the earliest mention of it and any information concerning this 
variety from works on Danish and Norwegian hunting, but my 
researches in this line haye been limited, and I only mention 
it as suggestive to others with better facilities. I note, 
that like myself, Ma, Wrank is in the dark as to the origin of 
the term, Not having seen the specimen Deyro Mr, Frank 
mentions [ cannot offer any opinion of his merits, except that 
T (and no other English judge, | fancy) would consider a fawn- 
cvelored Great Dane with a flesh-colored nose perfect, and be- 
yond all controversy, whatever fancies and likings for any 
particular feature Mr. Frank or any other judge, breeder, or 
exhibitor may have. Any indication of a dew-lap in a Great 
Dane is at variance with true character, and any trace of it 
reveals allayed blood, which will generatly be the mastiff, 
Mr, Frank must not think we Englishmen know nothing of 
these breeds, as the splendid class at the late Crystal Palace 
proves, and personally, I have taken great interest in these 
breeds, and been ab some troubie to investigate their true 
characteristics in a naturalist’s point of view, for some years 
now, Hoping this may elicit further historical data from Mr, 
Frank and others. M. B. Wynn, 
Late Hon. Sec. of the late Mastiif Club. 
In answerto Mr. B. Wynn’s remarks, I will say that Ido 
not iIn¢an no Bnglishman knows about these breeds of dogs, 
but only that they are better known on the continent. than 
here, Ihave been living in Paris for these eight years, and I 
venture to say that the specimens of Great Danes | see there 
are better, asa general rule, than those that haye been ex- 
hibited at Stroud or Henley-on-Thames, I have not been for- 
tunate enough to se the Crystal Palace Show, but the same 
individuals were there, I hear. I lived also in Turkey for seven 
years; have been in Greece and Austria, and do not well see 
which special breed Mr. Wyna calls the Suliot or Austrian 
boarhound. All I know aboutthe differences which distin- 
guish the two distinct breeds of Great Danes and German mas- 
tiffs, | have already, and not ambiguously, stated in my article 
published on Aug. 1, so that I haye nothing to add, as I have 
po more facts in memory about the origin of the name Great 
Dane than Mr. Wynn himself, All I Imow is that Deyro, who 
is much thought of in France, was born in Klamgenbors (Den- 
mark); but that does not prove anything. The breed might 
have been imported. ; : 
Van Dyck has represented the Great Dane fighting the bear, 
not the boar. Those represented in the picture of the Na- 
tional Gallery are so indistinctly detined that I cannot well 
make out what they really are. All Ihave tosayis that I 
think the dog we speak about is more apt to kill a bear than 
a boar; it has the habit of catching any animal by the Aap. of 
the neck, there where the boar has very hard hair which 
would oblige the dog to fall off, while it is the most vulnerable 
part of the bear, by ~s eRts. 
Tam happy to see that Mr, Wynn and Tare of tthe same 
opinion ag to the existence of two different breeds. The Ger 
