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ARTICLEV.—CHANGING THE ConsTITUTION.—The constitution 
of the society may be amended, altered, or repealed, by a two- 
thirds vote of the members present at any regular meeting, 
[The revised constitution may be found in reports 1879, page 
61, and 1880, page 66. All honorary members were abolished 
in the third report, page 5, and the constitution was amended 
to allow of the appointment of such members at the tenth 
annual meeting (page 3), The “Order of Business” adopted by 
the Association will be found in the reports for 1877, page 7; 
1878, pages 5 and 116; 1879, page 51; 1852, page 4.] 
*Dhis is not the exact wording of the constitution, but it is the spirit 
efit. The original constitution does not mention an executive com- 
mittee, One is Arevded for in an amendmentin the first repott, 
page 10, and is afterward increased from three to five (Third Report, 
page 5) aud again to seven (Seventh Report, page 76). Tt has heen 
the custom for the president, vice-president, secretaries and treasurer 
to ba members, ev officio. of the executive committee, and such a law 
may Daye béen passed, If so, I have missed it. F. WM. 
tin the published reports there is no record of any date of meeting, 
so fixed. The first reference to such mode of anperting dates of 
Mmetting will be found at the close of the fifth annual meeting of the 
Association in New York. Feb, §, 1876 (Fifth Report, page %), The 
second reference to this clause wil be found in the report of the 
special meeting of the Association in Philadelphia, Feb. 14 and 15, 
1877, page 7. The third date ef meeting appointed is left indefinite as 
fo the days. but indicates February, 1879 (Report of seventh annual 
meeting, Meh, 27 and 28,1878 page 118), In the proceedings of the 
eighth meeting, Feb, 25 and 26, 1879, it will be seen that (page 60) “the 
meeting adjourned to meet again in March or April, 1880, at the call 
of the sxecutive committee.” In the proceedings of the ninth annual 
meeting, page 65, these words oceur; “The meeting then adjourned to 
next year, the date to be fixed at some future time by the executive 
committee,” The report of the tenth annual meeting merely says: 
‘The meeting adjourned.’’ The eleventh report does not mention 
the adjournment. while the last one, June 7, 1883, page 75, says: ‘'The 
tmneeting then adjourned.’ This appears to mé to sanction the 
appointing of the time and 
committee. 
place of meetings by the executive 
F. M. 
Che Kennel, 
FIXTURES. 
BENCH SHOWS: 
Dec. 16, 17, 18 and 19.—Third Bench Show of the Southern Massa- 
chusetts Poultry Association, Taunton, Mass. Wm. C. Davenport, 
Assistant Seeretary, 
Dec, 30, 31 and Jan, 1, 2, 1885.—Bench Show of the Meriden Poultry 
Association, Meriden, Conn, Joshua Shute, Secretary. 
Feb. 1 to 11, 1885.—New York Fanciers’ Olub, Third Annual Exhibi- 
tion of non-sporting dogs, poultry and pigeons at Madison Square 
apie Feb. 1 to 11, 1885, Ohas. Harker, Secretary, 62 Cortlandt 
street. 
dan. 1) to 14, 1885.,—World’s Exposition Bench Show, New Orleans, 
ha. Mr, Chas. Lincoln, Superintendent. 
Jan. 27, 28, 29 and 30,—Annual Bench Show of the New Brunswick 
Poultry and Pet Stock Association. Mr. H. W. Wisson, Secretary, 
St. Johns, N, B, . 
March 3, 4, 5 and 6, 1885.—Seconé Annual Besch Show of the Gin- 
ote CHE TISIRAH ® Club, Cincinnati, O. Charlés Lincoln, Superin- 
endent, 
March 18, 19 and 20, 1885.—Second Annual Show of the New Haven 
Kennel Club, KE. 8, Porter, Secretary, Naw Haven, Conn. 
April 7 to 10, 1885,— First Annual Bench Show N. &. Kennel Club, 
Musie Hall, Boston. J, A. Nickerson, Secretary, 159A Tremont street, 
Chas. Lincoln, Superintendent. 
FIELD TRIALS. 
Noy, 21.—Third Annual Trials of the Robins Island Club, Robins 
island, i. L. Open to members only. Mr. A, T. Plummer, Secretary 
Dec. 2.—Second Annual Trials of the Pacific Coast Field Trials 
Bae at Walltown Timber, Cal, N. HE, White, Secretary, Sacramento 
Dal, 
Dee, 5 —Sixth Annual Trials of the National American Kennel Club 
at Canton, Miss. D, Bryson, Seerétary, Memphis, Tenn. 
Dec, 15,—Southern Sportsmen’s Association Trials, Canton, Miss, 
Mr. T. K. Renaud, Secretary, New Orleans, La. 
A. K,. R. 
JHE AMERICAN KENNEL REGISTER, for the registration of 
pedigrees, etc, (with prize lists of all shows and trials), is pub- 
lished every month. Entries close on the Ist. Should be in early, 
Entry blanks sent on receipt of stamped and addressed envelope. 
Registration fea (45 cents) mustaccompany each entry, No entries 
inserted unless paid in advanee. Yearly subscription $1, Address 
‘‘American Kennel Register,’’ P, O. Box 2832, New York. Number 
of entries already printed 1'70'7, Volume L., bound in cloth, sent 
postpaid, $1.50, 
THE COLLIE CLASSES. 
Editor Forest and Stream: : 
I was very glad to read your report Oct, 25, and have 
studied Mr. Mortimer’s letter in your issue of the 13th inst. 
with much interest, : 
Allow me to suggest that the whole secret of the ‘‘peculiar 
decisions” lies in the fact that the judges, as a rule, have only 
a theoretical knowledge of collies, picked up from yarious 
books, A good judge of a collie must have practical experi- 
ence, like Mr, Stanly Thompson, of England, and others, and 
not move in one narrow groove, seeing only one strain of col- 
lies, as the most of the breeders in this country. — : 
For instance, Mr. Watson, although painstaking, knowing 
the long rough-haired Highland collie, knows not the collie of 
the Cheviot Hills, Cumberland, etc., and Souther England, 
his knowledge being from books of “Stonehenge,” so must 
only be superficial, and therefore his decisions must follow bis 
icture books. Mr. Kirk, although a better judge than Mr, 
Watson from force of circumstances, is still too ‘“‘booky.” Mr. 
Mortimer, I can positively prove, does not know a collie when 
he sees one, and themstars cannot give correct judgments, how- 
ever willing and anxious he may be to do so, and the only 
real and practical judge we have on this side of the Atlantic 
is Mr. John Davidson; that is, so far as experience tells, What 
Dr, Downey or Mr. Apgar know we have no means of know- 
ing, but if they combine practical with theoretical knowledge 
we must all welcome them heartily. | ; ‘ 
The remedy issimply this, Getrid of theoretical judges 
who rely only upon their book-read knowledge, no matter 
how painstaking and well-meaning they may be, and in future 
employ only competent men, GRENVILLE HARSTON, 
Toronvo, Nov. 17. 
THE ORIGIN OF THE DEERHOUND. 
Rditor Forest and Stream: ; i 
Ta your issue of Oct. 2, ‘‘Scottish Lance” sees well to place his 
weapon against me for presuming to write an article on the 
deerhound, Now, I never intended to give a list of all the noted 
deerhound breeders, although I could easily have compiled it 
fromthe K. ©. S. Books. Neither wished Ito ignore any Irish 
or Scotch sportsman. At the same time, I never heard Mr. 
Morrison’s name mentioned in connection with deerhounds, 
and alll know of him is through a Scotch friend who bought 
some dog biscuits at his shop, inentioning his name; and 1 
believe 
Birmingham dog show, where he was judging a breed of set- 
ters tor which, [ understood, he was rather noted. Butif he 
or ‘Scottish Lance” have any information on the deerhound 
that they can throw into readable form, I, for one, should be 
delighted to read ib. * ba . F 
“Scottish Lance” misread my article, but if he will re 
peruse it he will see that I distinctly claimed for Dreland and 
Wales as much rightto therough greyhounds as that it be- 
longed to Scotland, and owing to Howel the Good's laws pro- 
tecting the great rough greyhound, every Welshman has a 
claim to be considered a countryman of this Celtic race, as it 
has ever been considered by the avlest writers and historians. 
Again, I never mentioned the Harl of Mar as a breeder of the 
see, except it is to drag in the fact of Lord 
whole of 
met the same person at the godeey dinner at the 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
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_s —_—s 
[Nov. 20, 1884. 
deerhound; all that I said was in reference to his Irish grey- 
hounds mentioned in ‘‘Taylor’s Penniless Pilgrimage,” which 
“Sottish Lance” quotes in extenso to no purpose that I can 
i ar’s haying rigged 
Taylor up in Tartan plaids and the breeks and trews, and the 
‘Seottish Lance’s” effusion reads to me as if hisimpar- 
tiality was a little warped in favor of his own countrymen, 
their dogs and togs. 
He is plainly out of his depth when he writes about Solo- 
mon’s mentioning the greyhound. Ifhe turns to the marginal 
reference he will see the word rendered greyhound in our 
version, may as correctly be rendered so “horse,” and more 
correctly than either “‘girt in the loms,” The Rey. Phillott, 
in his commentary, says of this word greyhound: ‘‘Literally, as 
the margin points out, one girt about the loins; some under- 
stand the word to denote a horse, others a wrestler, but refer- 
ence is probably made to a runner or courrier, who girds up 
his loins tightly in orderto run on a post journey.” Inthe 
Chaldee paraphrase and Vulgate it 1s called a cock, by R, Levi 
a leopard, and others the zebra. With regard to the theory 
of the Phosnician importation of the greyhound, old classical 
writers regarded the rough ereyhound of Britain as an indi- 
enous Celtic race. However, I quite admit that from the 
Ibanian or Suliot crossed with the Persian greyhound it 
would be possible to breed an animal very closely resembling 
the Irish wolfhound in type, but vastly inferior to it. While 
thanking ‘Scottish Lance” for his left-handed compliment to 
ny Sati of writing on the mastiff, IT was only organ 
grinder, or secretary and treasurer, to the mastiff club, of 
which, from its commencement until its close last year, the 
Earl of Caledon, an Irishman, was the president. 
MaLcoum B. WYNN. 
Roratry, England, Oct. 18, 1884. 
ENGLISH KENNEL NOTES. 
XVII. 
Wie do you enjoy most, Mr. Seeretary of the National 
Breeders’ dog show, anticipation, realization or retro- 
spection? I can hear you reply across the Atlantic, ‘“Re- 
trospection, of course,” so I should think, most badgered and 
baited one, 
Nobody who has never tried it can paint in his imagination 
the faintest picture of the worry and work, the sneers and 
the slurs that loom big and fateful in the path of the pro- 
moter. To organize and carry through a dog show requires 
not only energy and ability, but an insensibility to envious at- 
tack that few men possess. From the time the first seledule 
is poriee till the last receipt for prize money comes to hand, 
“there is a heap of trouble on the secretary’s head.” 
Tf Mr. Watson has reached this last stage, I congratulate 
him and his supporters who have seen him through. The 
National Breeders’ in breaking away from the foolish conti- 
nental practice of haying the judging done on the second or 
third or last day of the show have put themselves in accord 
with our exhibitions. I don’t believe there is a.show held in 
England where the judging does not take place on the first 
day, 4s soon as the publie are admitted or before, At Birm- 
ingham the dogs are judged in private on Saturday and the 
public are admitted on Monday. The principle is the same, 
because visitors see the winners on the first day the show is 
open and to a majority of the public the winners are all they 
come ta see, 
[have walked threugh several shows on the Continent, and 
it aroused in me a feeling of vexation to see no prize cards up, 
1 also observed thatthe delay bred speculations, often disap- 
pointments, and generally gave time for the birth of discon- 
tent. Waiting for the trial under any circumstances, or in any 
position, is an irksome suspense; everybody would prefer to 
be tried soon and haye sentence passed, for then they know 
the worst—or best. 
Thereis also another view which, however, is not likely to 
have troubled their owners—the dogs aré sentenced to confine- 
ment anyhow, the knowledge to some of them that their 
owner had won a cup might be solacing, butI think their 
chief gain consists in the extra attention and unchary cuddle- 
ment bestowed upon them by both sexes of the sightseers, 
Tt is a play to the unobtrusive thinker to watch a lovely 
woman sitting in the straw by the side of a huge, successful 
Mastiff, caressingly toying with the indifferent, nnappreci- 
ative brute, whogives no sign of satisfaction when the fair, 
soft cheek is lovingly Jaid against his lowering mask. 
But the interest lies In watching the watchers, generally 
two, a biped and a quadruped. The biped, in kid boots, en- 
yiously chews his cane, disgusted with such waste. The 
quadriuped occupies the next bench and wistfully looks round 
his partition for just one kind word of consolation. 
By limiting their show to three days, the National Breeders 
merit the approving thanks of those who love their faithful 
friends as well as the cups they win them; but with most of us 
itis vanitas vanitatwn—all is vanity. : 
It varies very much in this country the number of days a 
show keeps open. It depends also npon many circumstances. 
I don’t commend one-day shows, because with a large jentry 
the judging usually extends far into fhe eyening, and the 
visitors don't get a fair look at the dogs, many of which will 
be off their benches being judged. Twodays are better than 
one, but thatouly leayesa clear morning, because the packing 
and cleaning off will commence inthe afternoon of the secon 
day, Three days Llook upon as the solution favorable to man 
and beast. This gives the visitors the middle day all to them- 
selves. 
The Kennel Club exhibitions used to last from Friday to 
Tuesday, but this arrangement was in consideration of gate 
money only. In this manner the club secured the half holi- 
day on Saturday, and they generally contrived to catch the 
Monday, bank holiday, But public opinion got too strong for 
the clib. Some objected on behalf of the “Sawbeth,” others 
complained that the blank day uselessly prolonged the dogs’ 
confinement, so now we have made it from Tuesday to Friday, 
T hold, then, that the promoters and supporters of the Nati- 
onal Breeders’ Show have deserved well of your dog-showing 
community for their enterprise and progress, And as there 
is no harm in learning, perhaps other shows will ‘please 
copy.” 
Phave just read in your columns a letter from the secretar 
of that show, in which he feelingly goes over some of the roug 
ground he has had to trayel on.° But what in the name of 
novelty does he mean when he says that those who attend the 
show on the second day “have a treat in store,” that “a well- 
known Philadelphia gentleman who never does things by 
halves, proposes to receive the visiting exhibitors, judges, and 
others;” and then the writer concludes with, ‘‘on that score [ 
need say no more.” Why not? I don’tagree withhim! I want 
to know alot more. It has puzzled me yery much, I don’t 
understand it. Tam as bewildered as was Martin Chuazlewit 
when Captain Kedgick told him of “the sort of lé-vee” he was 
to hold, Will it be one of that sort, filing by and shaking 
hands? If so, am quite certain that its introduction over 
here would not be accepted with joyous satisfaction. 
don’t think that it would be atall practicable for Mr. 
Shirley, the modest chairman of the Kennel Club, to “receiye” 
in this manner, His thoughts would be worth more than the 
conventional penny when Mr. Wyndham Carter held out his 
hand, and blunt Hugh Dalziel gave him the grip cordial that 
started the tears to his eyes. To Dickens's list of “diversities 
of grasp, the tight, the loose, the short-lived, and the /inger- 
ing!” we would add “the sayage.” 4 
tis an old tale but a good one of the naval captain ‘full of 
strange oaths” who, after receiving a hint to express his 
forcible command without swearing the next time he was m- 
furiated with.a sailor’s clumsiness in the rigging, bawled ta 
him, ‘Come down from that, God bless you,” and then added, 
“to affect doggy circles. 
“you know what I mean.” I faney some of the people who 
would shake Mr, Shirley’s hand would feel inclined to mutter, 
“you know what I mean.” 
Wellingborough show was most satisfactory for a first 
venture. The point of interest appeared to be at the basset 
benches, where squatted with wise judicial air twenty-two ot 
these solemn hounds. 
] Tt_was a wonderful entry for a local 
show and owing, I was told, to an energetic ‘kennel to kennel” 
whip, There was little to notice for quality or quantity in 
the other classes. 
_ Lwas grievously disappointed at not beimg able to get a day 
in town to see the Hox-terrier Club's show. The entry (254) 
could not be called even an average one, I think the claims of 
so many other terrier breeds are weakening their lines. The 
fact is that it 1s easy enough to buy a: tepape tun,” butit is sur- 
prisingly hard to breed # “‘flyer.” That wonderful lucky dog: 
esult continues to career away with money, cups and 
medals, in fact I believe his record has passed the sensational 
Cracknell’s. Briges won again in wire-hairs, I wonder if 
his noble owner gets many stud fees for his dog since the law 
case about him, 
Mr. Hdwin Nicholis appears to have sold bis champion 
bloodhound rather cheap at £150, If I had been asked to 
value the dog I should have put him down at £200, and that 
the lowest. Certainly there are not many bitches for the best 
bloodhound to serve; but, on the other hand, it is a breed that 
always commands a high stud fee. 
I suppose they may be taken for what they are worth, but 
canards are on the wing, and they quack that Triumph’s pedi- 
gree isnot pure bloodhound, mais que voulez-vous? 
The bad times complained of in trading pursuits don’t seem 
Another collie has changed his abode 
“at a high figure.” This time it is Young Cockie, the hand- 
some youngsttr that swept the boards at the last Kennel Club 
show. He is a most upstanding dog and a grandson of the 
veteran celebrity, Charlemagne, though not a sable, like most 
of that illustrious strain. 
With great glee I write it that the Mastiff Club have decided 
to try the case of Crown Frince’s disputed paternity. I look 
forward to some sport. Unless they have a few strong men 
on the committee of inquiry it will end in smoke, They musi 
call each person interested in the case, and examine and cross- 
examine freely. I eaeere several promising candidates for 
the Ananias stakes will make their appearance. I should like 
to be present when Corsincon is examined, and I can realize 
that some would be glad to be absent, for he has a most offen- 
sive habit of speaking the truth on the smallest provocation. 
I am sincerely sorry to see that all Dr. Winslow’s dogs are 
for sale. This will be another good man gone out of dogs. 
The editor of the Stock Keeper has Been obliged to put the 
extinguisher on the bulldog correspondence, The style and 
tone boiled over at the end. One of the writers, “‘Cyprus,” 
callsa gentleman, whose opinions are not bis, ‘‘a scurrilous 
and malicious libeller,” and “an ill-conditioned sand foul- 
mouthed fancier.” His arguments, I must admit, are sound, 
but his language is ‘‘beastly.” 
In the Shooting Times appears avery knowing letter about 
me, or should I say, w. The writer chuckles with self-satis- 
faction on his discovery from ‘“‘internal evidence” (rather a 
medical expression suggestive of chops and the channel) that 
“at least two men are concocting these letters.” So I should 
think, ‘‘at least two.” Did any of our readers ever suppose 
one small head could carry all I know? Still Mr. perspicaci- 
ous “Setter,” as you calJl yourself, I shall continue to sign for 
the writers *‘Lillibulero,” simply from a personal grudge I - 
bear the word ‘‘Co,.” 
'Setter’s” spiteful remarks about dog dealing and the “con- 
federate” are vntruthful besides being rude, Perhaps we 
have sold some dogs to America, but no confederates or ac- 
complices were required. These columns afford me seductive 
opportunities of recommending ‘‘a friend who has a dog that 
I think would suit you,” and I have several letters kindly for- 
warded by the editors. The authors of them know what in- 
decent haste I have displayed to supply them with ‘‘leetille 
dawegs.” 
“Setter” bemy “on the job,” as the expressive if inelegant 
racing phraseology has it, must polish off Mr. Mason at the 
same time, so he says he “does not wonder at the Doctor sit- 
ting on him,” Tt seems to me astrange liberty to take with 
a gentleman, but the medical man thinks it will soothe the 
seat of irritation. I may be wrong, but his letters have not 
inclined me to suppose there is much “softness” about Mr. 
Mason. “Setter” says ‘itis doubtfulif Mr, Mason will ever 
recover fromthe blow.” Probably notif, as “etter” says, 
the Doctor was really sitting on him at the time. 
However, [don’t think “Setter” means much harm, there 
are no bones broken, though I should imagine that his coun- 
tr'ymen would prefer when he again makes himself their un- 
invited mouth-piece that he should lower another bucket into 
the ‘well of English undefiled” on the chance of getting some- 
thing clearer than this sentence; “Now, we do not object to 
trade per se here, butwe do object to any but occult trad- 
ing.” “Occult? is good, if you know what it means; but 1 
won't analyze the sentence—its ambiguity is too complete. 
Let it stand with that other observation, the bearings of 
which “lay io the application on it.” Iam pleased for the 
opportunity of turning it up. ‘‘Whereby, why not? If 80, 
what odds? Canany man say otherwise? No, Awast then!’ 
Jack Bunsby might have been jealous of ‘‘Setter.” 
“Setter” also had a shot at the identity of “‘Lillibulero,” and 
mentioned two names, which the editor, howeyer, with a dis- 
cretion that does credit to his journalistic knowledge, declined 
to print, It is unlikely that ‘Setter’ would have hit it “in 
once,” and hisvanudom guesses would probably have caused 
unnecessary annoyance to the bearers of the two names. 
There is a subject which I should gladly ignore but that to 
do so would be shirking my duty of keeping you informed on 
current doggy affairs. An article has appeared in one of our 
papers, the circulation of which is so small as to be almost a, 
private one. The subject of the article is Mr. prep neny the 
secretary of the Kennel Club, and the writer is Mr. Wyndham 
Carter, editor and proprietor of the paper. ‘ 
The article has stirred up much excitementin keunel circles, 
and people are speculating upon what the result may be. The 
secretary is attacked with unparaileled asperity in his official 
and private capacities, The very gravest charges are made, 
and an inquiry of some sort musttollow. Mr. Carter has pre- 
judiced his casein my mind, by unreasonably coupling the 
chairman with the secretary. Nobody will belieye what he 
says about Mr, Shirley, and they may thereby be led to dis- 
count his charges against Mr. Stephen. 
T don’t know how much truth there may be in the rumors 
that Mr. Carter gives currency to the pretended change in the 
secretaryship, the wish may be only tather to the thought, 
there is much ill-blood between them, All men have their 
friends and enemies and Mr. Stephen is na exception. 
There are many men who dislike him and who would 
be puzzled to give their reason for it. This much, though I 
must, on evidence, admit that whatever spd he may do inside 
the club by the manner in which he fulfills his office, outside 
the club he has raised much acrimony against the club and 
himself by his cavalier and overbearing mien. He has done 
more than is relished to ruffle people’s feelings against the 
dictatorial tone of the Kennel Club. There are many good- — 
mannered gentlemen in the club whom it would be untair ta 
suspect of such hectoring intentions, but their very nnidness 
keeps them out of sight, Mz. Carter's attack is deficienh in 
consistency and public motive; he might have struck a sym- 
pathetic chord in some minds if, instead of heaping up promis- 
cuous contumely on Mr. Stephen he had applied personally to 
him the reproach of Junius to Wilkes, ‘You talk of yourself 
with too much authority and importance. By assuming this 
false pomp and air of consequence you either give general dis- 
pust, or what is infinitely more dangerous, you expose yourself 
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