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Oct. 18. Whitestone:—Match. O.R. Phenes beats Maud FF. 
18. Oak Point.—Match, Thorn K.Y.C. beats Gracie K.Y.C. 
14. Yonkers.—Vesper Y.R.A. First class: Tethys w. o. 
Second class, 8 starters: Polly.i. Third class, 4 starters: 
Ray Howland 1. Fourth class, 5 starters: Daisy 1. Cata- 
marans, 3 starters: Jessie 1, 
15. Sandy Hook.—8.Y.C. Open Fall Races. Wirst class, 3 
starters: Bedouin S.Y.C. 1. Second class, no entries. 
Third class, 2 starters: Happy Thought N.H.Y.C. 1. 
18 New York.—8.Y.C. Open Fall Races. First class, 2 starters: 
Bedouin §.Y.C. 1. Second class, 3 starters: Oriva S8.Y,.C. 
1. Third class, 3 starters: Mona §.Y.C.1. Fourth class, 
6 starters: Daisy S.Y.C. 1. 
18. Cooper’s Point.—3 starters: Rebecca Floyd 1. 
18. Atlantic City.—Linda—Maggie May match. Race stopped 
by an accident. 
20. Matinnicock._Sweepstakes. Gracie K.Y.C. beats Adele and 
Nettie Thorp both K.Y.C. 
25. Cooper’s Point.—3 starters: Emma Moore 1. 
Nov. 1. Cooper’s Point.—4 starters: Edith L. Metz 1. 
THE CUTTERS WILL BE THERE. 
Hditor Forest and Stream; 
Regarding the statements in my letter to you in reference to per- 
formance of sloop Penguin in the last regatta of S.C. Y.C. The faccis 
that the Penguin tacked to avoid the Athlon (the Athlon having right of 
way), before Athlon was overtaken by Oriva, as stated by crew of 
Orivain his statement, consequently had passed and winded the 
Oriya also, gaining over one mile upon the Orivaina distance of say five 
miles. The reason Penguin did not maintain and increase the dis- 
tanee was that her mainsail split almost immediately after winding 
Athlon, in consequence she hac to be nursed into the Hook. As to 
the statement by one of the crew of Oriva, ‘that the Penguin gained 
this advantage by working the beach for smooth water closer than 
Oriva dared to go.”* The fact that Penguin with board down requires 
2it. more water than Oriva, disposes of that statement, since the 
most ignorant would not imagine for a moment that the board was 
raised on tke Penguin to stand toward a beach within 200 yards of 
which ocean steamers can and do go with safety. This race 
Gemonstrated thoroughly a fact which has always been clear in my 
opinion, that cutters do their best sailing in light weather, and can be 
easily outsailed in heavy weather by a proper modeled and rigged 
centerboard vessel, especially to windward. Contrast size of Penguin 
and Oriva. Penguin, 43ft. 6in. waterline; 48ft. over all. Oriva, 50ft. 
waterline; 62ft. over all. Let crew of Oriva and all cutter advocates 
think well of this fact, and dream that at some future day shortly to 
arrive, they may be unable to handicap a proper American vessel, 
and must contend with one which approximates their size and length, 
New York, Nov. 6, 1884. SUBSCRIBER. 
[The figures 48 and 62, or even 4344 and and 50, give a very unfair 
idea of the relative sizes of Oriva and Penguin. Some still think that 
4ft. more beam, coupled with 6ft. ef draftin a comparatively flat 
model, would go far to compensate for the extra length of the narrow 
boat, as regards size, We can answer for the cutters that they will 
be ready to meet the long heralded American sloop under any meas- 
urement which gauges reasonably size and power. 
FROM MARBLEHEAD TO CHICAGO. 
Editor Forest and Stream; 
I wish to take this opportunity of thanking you for advice given me, 
and also for information received through your paper. Acting on 
both, I had Mr. Wm. Eddy, of Marblehead, Mass., build me a yacht 
between a cutter and a sloop, or, asI call her, a cutter, 32,6ft. long, 
10.2ft. beam, drawing 5ft. Gin. water aft, 82in. least freeboard. Her 
lines are perfect, without a lump or bunch anywhere, and admitted, 
when on the ways, to be the finest yacht built in Marblehead. She 
has 8,320 pounds of iron in keel and about 5,200 lead and iron inside, 
and is very stiff. I made the trip from Marblehead to Chicago in 
four weeks, going up to Providence and staying over Sunday. My 
route was across to Cape Cod, Vineyard Sound, Long Island Sound to 
New York, Hudson River to Troy, Erie Canal to Buffalo, thence to 
Chicago on the lakes. We encountered a heavy blow off Cornfield 
Lightship which proved the Clara B. to be a perfect sea boat, dry and 
comfortable. She would lay her bowsprit under about 2ft., but would 
pice it up without putting any water aboard. We had twenty-seven 
ours of it without any sleep, and put into New Haven the next 
morning completely exhausted, lying there all day and night. And 
I wish to say that the New Haven Y. C. were the only parties that 
extended any courtesies to us on the route. We made the run from 
New Haven to City Island the next day, having five hours’ perfect 
calm. ° We passed and left behind everything on the water that day, 
so that speaks well for her sailing qualities. I also encountered a 
storm on each of the lakes, making, Chicago, Sept. 11, in a heavy 
N.E. storm, which proved she was strongly constructed and upon the 
right principles for a safe cruising yacht. I have four good bunks 
and can sleep four more on the transoms, and if put to it, four more 
on the floor by removing the table. I have 5ft. Yin. head room in 
eabin, with storage space and wide standingroom. Forward is a good- 
sized room for cooking and stowage. It was the common expression 
that she was larger inside than out. C. E. 
Curcaeo, Tl 
YACHTING ON LAKE ONTARIO. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
It seems strange that so little is heard of our Ontario yachtsmen 
through the medium of ForEsT AND STREAM, when we consider that 
there are few finer bodies of water in the world on which to enjoy 
boating, and that we have so many enthusiastic yachtsmen, not to 
speak of several large fleets of boats, many of them comparing fay- 
orably with the sea-going yachts of which we hearso much, Surely 
a little stirring up is all that is required to call out accounts of dif- 
ferent cruises, sketches of races, bad weather, quick runs, and many 
interesting anecdotes of summer sailing in this part of the world. If 
you will mention this matter in your next issue, Mr, Editor, Iam 
convinced that you will soon be flooded with manuscript on this sub- 
ject, and if desired, I, for one, will give an article, although I cannot 
lay claim to any literary ability. ‘ Drep DRAUGHT. 
[We desire logs of cruises from all who have leisure to prepare 
them, and hope our correspondent will set the example. Little sail- 
ing will be possible for the next six months, but yachtsmen can do 
much to make the time pass pleasantly, by exchanging their adven- 
tures and experiences through FormsT AND Sonat’ 
LLOYD'S YACHT REGISTER has now reached its seventh year, 
and it may be interesting to put together the figures of classed yachts. 
While the numbers, as compared with the total number of yachts, 
are still very small, it is to be remarked. that the classed yachts are 
mostly those of large tonnage, and we believe the number is steadily 
increasing. Most of the new racers are classed, and a large propor- 
tion of the vessels built within the past year, steam as well as sailing, 
are also classed. By going to a respectable builder there is no doubt 
that a good. article can be obtained with or without Lloyd’s class; but 
it will certainly be found in years to come a great advantage in offer- 
ing a vessel for sale, to say that she was built to class wilh Lloyd’s, 
and has had her class kept up; and this we mention because yachts 
certainly change hands quite as often as do larger craft.—Nautical 
Magazine. 
Canoeing. 
OGanoutsts wre invited to send us notes and full reports of cruises 
club meets, information about canoeable waters, and other commu- 
nications of interest. 
J. 
Secretaries of canoe clubs are requested tosend to Formst AND 
Srrmam their addresses, with name, membership, signals, etc, of 
their clubs, and also notices in advance of mectings and races, and 
reports of the same. Canoeists and all interested in canoeing are 
requested to forward to FormsT AND Struam their addresses, with 
logs of cruises, naaps, aud information concerning their local waters, 
drawings or descriptions of boats and fittings, and all items relating 
to the sport. ; 
CANOE FOR OPEN WATER CRUISING. 
HE) general interest in cruising canoes, added to the stimulus 
a given by the annual races, has resulted in a change of fashion 
in canoes. many details which were once considered as essential, being 
now condemned and new ones taking their places. The canoe here 
described was designed by Mr. W, P. Stephens, of the New YorkC. C., 
for general cruising about New York, and also to sail with boats of 
similar dimensions in the club and Association races. 
The design differs in some details from the type heretofore common 
in America, the stern being plumb to gain the length on waterline, 
with as little over all length as possible; and for the same reason, as 
well as to hang the rudder properly, the stern is vertical above the 
waterline, while below it is rounded boldly away into a rocker of 2in, 
in the keel, by which ease in ‘turning 1s secured; there is no sharp 
keel to dig in the mud when launching stern on, and there is no large 
deadwood or scag outside to warp, as they always do. The miiship 
section has a little deadrise, as the boat is intended to carry ballast, 
for which room is provided under the floor, the bilge hasan easy turn, 
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