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Third Series. 
Gladstone’s Boy beat Count Rapier. 
Paul Gladstone beat Lady C. 
' Final Tie for First Prize, 
Paul Gladstone beat Gladstone’s Boy and won first prize. 
Ties for Second Prize. 
Lady C, beat Bessie A. 
Final Tie for Second Prize. 
Lady C. beat Gladstone’s Boy and won second prize. 
~ Ties for Third Prize. 
Lillian beat Bessie A. and divided third prize with Glad- 
stone’s Boy. 
THE DERBY, 
The National Derby was commenced on Wednesday even- 
ing after the finish of the All-Aged Stake and two heats were 
decided on Thursday. Although it was showery, good pro- 
gress was made and eight heats were run. Following is a 
summary of the work, 
First Series. 
Lillian beat Gem. 
Lady Bessie beat Billy Gates. 
Richmond (setter) beat Paul Jones. 
Lady Lee beat Anne Boleyn. 
Roderigo beat Jim Bludso, 
Sportsman beat Richmond (pointer). 
orse beat Surrey. 
Gladstone’s Boy beat Maud B. 
Queen Bess beat Annie Morgan. 
Medora beat Index. 
This finished the work for the day. On Friday the Derby 
was continued. 
Blackstone beat Lexington. 
Col. Cool, a bye. 
Before the commencement of the second series Queen Bess, 
who had won her heat, was withdrawn, 
Second Series. 
Lady Bessie beat Cal Cool. 
Lillian beat Richmond (setter). 
Sportsman beat Lady Lee, 
Roderigo beat Morse. 
Gladstone’s Boy beat Medora. 
Blackstone, a bye. 
Third Series. 
Blackstone beat Lady Bessie. 
Sportsman beat Lillian. 
Gladstone’s Boy beat Roderigo, 
Fourth Series. 
Sportsman beat Blackstone. 
Gladstone’s Boy a bye. 
Final Vie for First Prize. , 
Sportsman beat Gladstone’s Boy, and won first prize. _ 
Final Tie for Second Money, \ 
Gladstone's Boy beat Lillian, and won second prize. 
Third prize was divided, by agreement of owners and hand- 
lers, between Lillian and Medora. 
THE COLLIE CLASSES. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
I must begin by apologizing for having evidently written 
my last letter to you so badly, that your printer could not 
read it, which accounts for the mistakes I appear to make 
therein that must be patent to any collie man, so I need not 
enumerate them; but I will try and write better in future. 
When I said that ‘‘Mr. John Dayidson is the only practical 
judge in America” I only meant so far as has appeared. I 
verily believe that both in the United States and Canada you 
could find dozens of canny old Scotch farmers, especially low- 
land Scotch, who (to use a common expression) ‘“‘have for- 
gotton more than most of our bench show judges ever knew.” 
The chief fault of our so-called judges is that they are all 
for color and coat and nothing for breed, I have frequently 
seen a dog with a heayy setterish head or setterish ears of a 
pretty color, and long silk coat given the prize over a pure 
bred, good serviceable collie of not such a fancy color, I will 
always maintain that no dog with unmistakable flat setterish 
ears, such as Hiram, should have a prize, or even a 
“commend,” because ef his unmistakable strain of setter 
blood. I contend, far better give the card to a prick-eared 
dos, because there are hundreds of pure prick-eared collies 
although I do not like them. Again, there is the dome-shape 
head, I believe I am borne out by every authority when I 
say no such dog should even get acard. Mr.S. EH, Smiley 
says: ‘‘Hars set high on the head, not dropping like a fox- 
terrier’s but semi-erect, and as small as possible.” Mr, W. W. 
Thompson says: ‘‘Head long and sharp, but not snipy in 
the muzzle or domed in the skull, ears small and semi-erect.” 
Byven some of our writers on dogs do not seem to be aware of 
the variety of strains of collies. 
There is the Highland collie,a dog sometimes standing 
twenty inches in the loin, witha rough, heavy, servicable coat 
not wooly as some of our judges seem to think, but thick an 
varying in color generally between black, white, tan, red, etc. 
Then there is the Lowland collie, such as are so plentiful in the 
Cheviot Hills,in my opinion the most servicable dog of all, 
generally standing from twelve to sixteen inches, with a 
medium but serviceable coat, thick but not so long and heavy 
as his Highland compeer, but a dog that looks like ever- 
lasting go and spring, strong active legs and a perfect 
symmetrical body, in color generally sandy or red, or a golden 
tan, but to be found of almost any color and shade. Then the 
smooth bob-tailed English drover’s dog, with its prick ears 
and terrier-like coat, Then there is that pretty little Nor- 
wegian collie,so hardy and active, that looks like a cross 
between a Highland and a Lowland collie. Then there is that 
rough-coated English shepherd dog with its coarse shaggy 
oat, and head so shaggy that at first glance it looks almost 
round, Then again there is the German collie, very like its 
English brother, and many other strains. I would like to ask 
our booky judges how many of these strains they have seen or 
even node oi, and again [assert that only a practical man 
can judge collies. To see an old Scot like John Davidson 
surrounded by half a score of dogs of these different strains 
and to see his eye brighten as it picks out the best for work, 
and then to hear him handle his separate dogs and point out to a 
booky man, point for point, where his choice beats hollow 
that pretty colored dog, is a treat, and those booky men who 
rely upon coat and color soon find their true value—not that I 
would under ratecoat, but I would like to see universally 
adopted Mr. Shirley’s standard. 
Points. 
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GLa lela. ane Citanen easels ote estat oy Beene ee 10 
Coates te welt tee be AIM sp x3 ec Bee ee ee 15 
(OR BSGe macy bits Oe OLS pean 2 oe 10 
Shoulders......-......6:. bee Sate a Ge al tas » 10 
SOU apa badbces cps oie meen ney hoe 2 yi oor etre ates 15 
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The only change I would make is coat 10 and feet 10, as 
the feet are a most important point. 
C, GREVILLE HARsToN,. 
Toronto, Ontario, Dec. 12. 
Toronto, Dec, 13,—I_ hardly know whether any one is ex- 
pected to notice Mr, Watson’s letter on judging collies, of 8th 
inst., but I think the letter [ wrote you on the 8th, answers 
any points that are worth answering, except that he tried to 
lead your readers to believe thatlam writing up my own 
dogs, whichis not so. I may simply say my own dogs are far 
too old to show, and anywhere they have been exhibited lately 
haye been simply to fill up classes, and to oblige people who 
don't like to see a show without the veterans. At the Toronto 
D, C. K. C., [returned the money won in the form of a cup, 
and at the Toronto O. C. C., I turned the money into the club. 
If Mr. Watson was raised in the Cheviot Hi , itis curious 
that he does not know the Lowland collies. As for Mr. Wat- 
son’s great point as to who Mr. Stanley Thompson is, I really 
can’t inform him. I thought any man of common sense would 
haye understood so plain a printer’s error. I wrote ‘‘Messrs. 
Shirley & Thompson,” wherein I put a ‘‘p”? too much, 
C. GREVILLE HARSTON. 
THE SOUTHERN FIELD TRIALS. 
| Bas second annual meeting of the Southern Sportsmen’s 
Association began last Monday with the AH-Aged Stake, 
nei which there were nineteen entries. The drawing was as 
ollows: 
Mrpora,—W. B. Gates’s (Memphis, Tenn.) black, white and 
tan English setter bitch Medora (Gladstone—Carrie J.), 
: agamst 
Loypon.—J. H, Coleman’s (New Orleans) black, white and 
tan dog London (Gladstone—UClip). 
Buy Gares.—Dr. A. F, McKinney’s (Forest Hill, Tenn,} 
black and white English setter dog Billy Gates (Count Rapier 
—Kate B.), dae 
ains 
ag 
Bessie A.—J. M. Avent’s (Hickory Valley, Tenn.) white 
and lemon English setter bitch Bessie A. (Dashing Lion— 
Armida), 
Mrreor.—W. E. Hughes's (St. Louis) liver and white pointer 
dog Meteor (Garne ilt), 
against . 
LApy C.—B. M. Stephenson’s (La Grange, Tenn.) black, 
white and tan English setter bitch Lady C. (Coleman’s London 
—Belle of Hatchie). 
Counr Rarizr.—W, B. Gates’s (Memphis) black and white 
English setter dog Count Rapier (Druid—Magnolia), 
against 
Gun. ArnTHUR.—Dr. 8, Fleet Speir’s (Brooklyn, N. Y.) setter 
dog Gen. Arthur (Emperor Fred—Wanda). 
CoLonEL Coot.—W. B. Gates’s (Memphis, Tenn.) black, white 
and tan English setter dog ree Cool (Gath—Lit), 
against 
Rur.--Bayard Thayer’s (Boston, Mass.) lemon and white 
pointer bitch Rue, A,K.R. 401 (Snapshot—Ruby) 
CLiay.—W. T. Hdwards’s (Varner, Ark,) red and white 
native setter dog Clay (Joe, Jr.—Fannie), 
a 
gainst 
Ress.—J. M. Avent’s (Hickory Valley, Tenn.) black English 
setter bitch Ress (Mask—Vic). 
St. Enmo V.—Dr. S. Fleet Speir’s ee N. Y.) black, 
white and tan English setter dog St. HImo V. (St. Elmo IV,— 
Countess Lonise), 
against 
SPoRTSMAN.—J. W. Murnan’s (Keeling, Tenn.) black, white 
and tan English setter dog Sportsman (Gladstone—Sue). 
Stocum.—Bayard Thayer’s (Boston, Mass.) Gordon setter 
dog Slocum (Thayer's Turk—Beauty), 
against 
PavuL GLADSTONE.—W. B. Gates’s (Memphis, Tenn.) black, 
white and tan English setter dog Paul Gladstone (Gladstone— 
Lavalette). 
RicomMonD.—J. E. Gills (Lancaster, Pa.) lemon and white 
pointer dog Richmend (Don—Beulah). 
against 
St. Ermo IV.—Dr. 8. Fleet Speir’s (Brooklyn, N. Y.) black, 
Otek and tan English setter dog St. Elmo IV. (St. Eimo— 
io). 
Lintian.—P. H. & D. Bryson’s (Memphis, Tenn.) black, 
white and tan English setter bitch Lillian (Gladstone—Sue) 
against 
GLADSTONE’s Boy.—Dr. G. G. Ware’s (Stanton,Tenn,) black, 
white and tan English setter dog Gladstone’s Boy (Gladstone— 
Sue). 
W. Mallory’s Lady Lee and J. K. Renaud’s Flossy did 
not start. 
THE DERBY DRAWING, 
CANTON, Miss., Dec. 15, 
The Derby drawing resulted as follows: 
Liniian,—P. H. & D. Bryson’s (Memphis, Tenn.) black, 
PES and tan English setter bitch Lillian, Aug. 21 (Gladstone 
—Sue 
’ against ; 
TRINKET BANG.—Mr, Tillington’s liver and white dog Trin- 
ket Bang (Croxteth—Trinket), 
RicomMonp.—E, M. Ushgr’s (Vincennes, Ind.) lemon and 
white dog Richmond, Ap mperecant TaN) 
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Fannig.—H. Fontaine’s black, white and tan setter bitch 
Fannie (Gladstone—Ossa). 
MErporsa.—Gates & Merriman’s (rem ea, Tenn.) black, white 
anatan English setter bitch Medora, July 20 (Gladstone—Car- 
rie J. 
: against 
ANNIE MoreGan,—J. M. Avent’s (Hickory Valley, Tenn.) 
lemon and white bitch Annie Morgan, (Gladstone—Bessie A.). 
InpEx.—J. M. Avent’s (Hickory Valley, Teun.) black, white 
and tan dog Index, July 10 (Gladstone—Countess Druid), 
against 
GLADSTONE's Boy.—Dr, G. G. Ware’s (Stanton, Tenn.) black, 
white and tun English setter dog Gladstone’s Boy, Jan. 10 
(Gladstone—Sue). 
Bitty Gates.—Dr. A, F, McKinney’s (Forest Hill, Tenn.) 
black and white English setter dog Billy Gates, Aug. 21 
(Count Rapier—Eazte B.), 
against 
Lapby Brssiz.—J. M. Avyent’s (Hickory Valley, Tenn.) lemon 
and white bitch Lady Bessie, Oct. 5 (Gladstone—Bessie A,). 
Cot. Coou.—Gates & Merriman’s (Memphis, Tenn.) black, 
Vin) a Bnd tan English setter dog Col, Cool, June 30 (Gath— 
it) a bye. 
The running began this morning, the weather being fine and 
the birds plentiful. Dr. Jarvis, one of the judges, did not 
arrive and C, B, Whitford was chosen to act in his place as 
judge of the Derby; Mr.B, Waters to judge the All-Aged Stake 
in case he does not arrive to-night. ‘lhe running for to-day is 
as follows: Lilian beat Trinket Bang, Richmond beat 
Fannie. Medora beat Annie Morgan, Gladstone’s Boy beat 
Index. Billy Gates beat Lady Bessie. Col. Cool a bye. 
Second Series—Gladstone’s Boy beat Col. Cool. Medora beat 
Richmond, 
A LARGE LITTER OF BEAGLES.—‘‘Buckeye” is to be 
congratulated on his Katie’s litter of eight whelps, but even 
that is not extraordinary. It has been my pleasant lot on two 
occasions to see my friend Elmore’s Lucy (a fine pestle bitch) 
giving suck to ten whelps, all herown. She is a good mother, 
and has repeatedly reared each whelp of these large litters, 
In the summer of 1882 it was my good fortune to see one of 
Lucy’s teu-whelp litters when about two months old, and it 
was a sight not to be forgotten. The whelps were all in good 
care, and very evenly and seiner marked, and they formed 
a pretty picture either in their play or at rest. In my fre- 
quent “‘rounds” of my friend’s large kennel, I was wont te 
pause at Lucy’s pen often and make “long tarrying,” and to 
forecast the future of each wWhelp. It seemed a pity to sepa- 
rate the happy, pay en family, remarkable for number and 
fine breeding. Such large litters are exceptional, and still 
more so is the successful rearing and shipment to purchasers, 
with not a poor or sickly one in the lot.—O. W. R. 
Dover, N. H., Dec. 15.—On the 18th day of March, my beagle 
bitch Belle whelped seven fine, strong and healthy pups (and 
they are all living and doing well), and on the 18th day of 
September, 1884, she whelped eight, four dogs and four bitches, 
and they are all living and are very good specimens of the 
beagle. Sheis only 114g inches high and will be three years 
old next March.—H, JAcKSson. 
Rockland, Me., Dec. 15.—On July 4, 1882, my beagle bitch 
Thorn (Victor—Lucy), now owned by N. Hlmore, whelped 
eight strong, healthy puppies, of which six were males, to 
Jarvis Williams’s beagle Sport (Mint—Jubet).—LIMEROCK. 
The beagle bitch Gipsy, owned by Mr. A. C. Krueger, of 
Wrightsville, Pa., whelped a litter of eight strong and healthy 
puppies.—RAzor. : 
ST, BERNARD IMPORTATION,—Mr. Alex. Taylor, Jr., 
New York, has recently imported ti St. Bernard bitch Em- 
a bred by T. McPherson, Engl, Whelped June 2, 1884, 
er breeding is as follows: Sire—K€g, brother of champion 
Bayard, by Mr. King’s Bosco, by Mr. Garnett’s Bruno, Mr. 
MacKillop’s Silverhorn, Juno by Wonder, Mr. Baylie’s Juno. 
Dam—Flora, by Barry VII., Mr. Hall’s Dido (K.P.R. 178%), by 
Mr. 8. W. Smith’s champion Barry (H.K.C.S.B. 6414), Mr. 
Hill’s Juno, g. 8s. by Mr. Fisher’s Bellair, his Venus, g. d. by 
Mr. F, Cooper’s Barry, imported, and winner first, Berne, 
1875, his Dido. 
THE LATE CHARLES LINCOLN.—Resolutions of respect 
for the late Charles Lincoln, and of condolence with his family 
have been passed by the Illinois Kennel Club, the New Eng- 
land Kennel Club, and the National Field Trials Club. 
KENNEL NOTES. 
NOTICE TO CORRESPONDENTS. 
Kennel notes are inserted in this column free of charge. To insure 
publication of notes, correspondents MUST GIVE the following par- 
ticulars of each animal: 
1. Color. 6. Name and residence of owner, 
2. Breed, buyer or seller, 
3. Sex. 7. Sire, with his sire and dam, 
4, Age, or 8. Owner of sire. 
5, Date of birth, of breeding or 6. Dam, with her sire and dam. 
of death 10. Owner of dam. 
All names must be plainly written. Communication on one side of 
paper only, and signed with writer’s name. 
NAMES CLAIMED, 
= See instructions at head of this column. 
Dr. Prim. By Mr. D.B. Wheeler, West Haven, Conn., for black, 
white and tan setter dog, whelped Sept. 27, 1884, by Pride of the West 
out of Dashing Primrcse. 
Dashing Pride. By Mr. O. Washburn, Norwich, Conn., for black, 
white and tan setter dog, whelped Sept. 27, 1884, by Pride of the West 
out of Dashing Primrose. 
Dashing Count. By Mr. O. Washburn, Norwich, Conn,, for lemon 
belton setter dog, whelped Sept. 27, 1884, by Pride of the West out of 
Dashing Primrose. - 
Dashing Vic. By Mr. R, Henry, Centreville, Conn., for black.white 
and tan setter bitch, whelped Sept. 27, 1884, by Pride of the West out 
of Dashing Primrose, 
Dashing Asteroid. By Mr. A. Hills,West Haven, Conn., for lemon 
and white setter dog, whelped Sept. 27, 1884, by Pride of the West out 
of Dashing Primrose. 
Dashing Nick. By Mr.§. Thompson, New Haven, Conn., for lemon 
belton setter dog, whelped Sept. 27, 1884, by Pride of the West out of 
Dashing Primrose. 
Bianca, By the Oakdale Kennels, Hudson, N. Y., for chestnut 
cocker spaniel bitch, whelped Oct. 1, 1884, by Click (A.K. 2. 133) out of 
Fidget (A. K.R. 308). 
Trix. By Mr, Wm. F. Tolley, Kingston, N. Y., for liver, with white 
breast, cocker spaniel dog, whelped Oct. 1, 1884, by Click (A,K.R, 183) 
out of Fidget (A.K.R. 308). 
Game. By Mr, Henry Van Hoesen, Hudson, N, Y., for liver, with 
white breast, cocker spaniel dog, whelped Oct. 1, 1884, by Click 
(A.K.R. 183) out of Fidget (A.K.R. 308). 
Wanda. By the Sans Souci Kennels, Balledelplig, Pa., for golden 
sable, white chest, dark sable tail, collie bitch, whelped May, 1884, by 
champion Rex (A.K.R. 149) out of Lindsay’s imported Jennie Nettles 
(A. K.R. 1224), 
Lillibulero. By the Sans Souci Kennels, Philadelphia, Pa., for 
black, tan and white collie dog, whelped April, 1884, by Drive out of 
Purt Gart. 
Prince. By Mr, H, Jackson, Dover, N. H., for beagle dog, by Min- 
strel ont of Nellie, : 
Twilight. By the Chequasset Kennels, Lancaster, Mass., for stone 
fawn, with: black mask, ears, trace, dark nails, pug bitch, whelped 
4s 17, 1884, by champion Treasure out of imported Pudgie, 
Trump. By the Chequasset Kennels, Lancaster, Mass., for stone 
fawn, with black mask, ears, trace, dark nails, pug dog, whelped 
Sept. 17, 1884, by champion Treasure out of imported Pudgie. 
Treasure I, By the Chequasset Kennels. Lancaster, Mass., for 
apricot fawn, with black mask, ears, nails, pug dog, whelped Oct, 5, 
1884, by champion Treasure out of imported Toodles. 
Countess Molly. By Mr. H. M. Wilson, Baltimore, Md., for English 
setter bitch, by Count Noble out of Spark. 
Slick. By Mr. T. H. Wyman, Sebec, Me., for black, with white 
breast, cocker spaniel bitch, whelped Dec. 80, 1883, by champion Silk 
out of Gracie. 
White Ranger, Drake Ranger, Jessie Ranger and Queen Ranger. 
By Mr. S. B. Dilley, Rosendale, Wis., for pointers, two liver and white 
dogs and two liver, white and ticked bitches, whelped Oct. 23, 1884, 
by his Ranger Croxteth out of Fanny Faust. 
ST. BERNARD KENNELS. By Mr. Henry Miller for his kennel of 
St, Bernards, at Clifton, Staten Island, 
BRED. 
(LE See instructions at head of this column, 
Bridget—President. Mr. KE. W. Bennett's (Blandford, Mass.) bull- 
rote bitch Bridget (Paddy—Mona) to Mr, B, 8. Porter's President, 
ec, 2. 
Victoria-—President. Mr. E, 8S, Porter's (New Haven, Conn.) im- 
ported bull-terrier bitch Victoria (Randal—Floss) to his imported 
resident (Randal—Minnie), Nov. 20. 
Scarlet UI.—President. Mr, Frank F. Dele’s (New Haven, Conn.) 
bull-terrier bitch Scarlet II. (Scarlet If1.—Young Royal) to Mr. E. 8. 
Porter’s President (Randal—Minnie), Nov. 14. 
Wallkill Blanch—Hornell Silk, Mr. A. Gordon's (Middletown, N. 
¥.) cocker spaniel bitch Wallkill Blanch (A.K.R. 1201) to champion 
Hornell Siik, Nov, 15, 
Maud Rete: Mr, Max Wenzel's red Irish setter bitch Maud §. 
(Larry—Gussie Il.) to his Chief (Berkley—Duck), Oct. 15. 
Ruby—Chief. Mr. Max Wenzél’s Ruby (Elcho—Rose) to his Chief 
(Berkley— Duck), Nov. 13. 
Noreen I7.—Chief, Mr. J. F. Dwight’s (South Boston, Mass.) bitch 
x oreee If, (Elecho—Noreen) to Mr. Max Wenzel’s Chief (Berkley— 
ck), 
May—Bon Ton. Mr, J. E. Decker’s (Newark, N. J.) pointer bitch 
May to Dr. A. McCollom’s Bon Ton (A.K.R. 1486), Dec. 6, 
Dot—Diamond. Mr, W. H. R. DuBois’s (Westfield, N. J.) pug bitch 
Dot to Mr. A. Avent’s Diamond, Dec. 10. 
_ Belle—Dash. Mr. E. Schalk’s setter bitch Belle to Mr. W. H, R. 
DuBois’s Dash. 
Pigeon—Banunerman. Mr. A. C. Krueger’s white, black and tan 
beagle bitch Pigeon (Ringwoad I..—Fan II.) to his imported Sanner- 
man (champion ee ae age te a Dec. 5. 
Floss—Bannerman, Mr, A, 0. Krueger’s white, black and tan 
