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of any schooner, in the latterclass being Dauntless, Wanderer, Tidal 
Wave, Gitana, Fortuna, Montauk, Ruth, Varuna, Grayling, Estelle, 
Haleyon, Nirvana (once Julia) and Clio. 
Next day the big ones fared a little better, and in the run to Oak 
Bluffs, Montauk was only beaten by three minutes by Bedouin, while 
Grayling and Fortuna were sandwiched in between their larger sister 
and Mischief. Madeline joined the feet on Monday's run back, in 
which Fortuna was first in on even time, but under the consolation 
handicap, Clio took the prize, as did Athlon in the sloop class. In 
the last race, the triangular course, was grand fight to windward at 
the finish, Mischief and Bedouin coming in together, with Montauk 
third. Fortuna came in among the pack of sloops, the third schooner, 
Dauntless, having withdrawn, and Varuna had a sail over in the 
second elass, These contests wound up the schooner racing for the 
year as far as the larger boats were concerned, The following sum- 
mary showing the winners in 1884: 
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Starts. Prizes. Prizes. 
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Of all the famous old racers but one, Halcyon, has a place on the 
an event. 
If schooner racing were an index of the condition of yachting, there 
would be much cause for regret in the present state of the sport, but 
this is far from being the case, Boats of small tonnage have muiti- 
plied in all our waters and with the best possible results to yachting. 
A higher standard of seamanship, a moré thorough knowledge of all 
that belongs to the desien, construction, and handling of yachts, and 
ambition to be master of one’s own craft, however small, are becom- 
ing more and more matters of course among yachtsmen. A big 
schooner adds to the list of yachtsmen her owner and those of his 
guests who sail with him regularly, with no guarantee that any of 
them are of necessiby sailoru.en; but the two orthree-tonner in every 
case is owned and sailed by an enthusiast, with the aid of one or two 
choren mates of similar tastes, thus adding two or three valuable 
members to the great body of yachtsmen. 
On the Pacific coast schooners of 50 to 70ft. still represent a large 
portior of the total tonnage, the balance being composed of yawls, 
as better adapted to their peculiar local conditions, and the sloop is 
little used and the cutter unknown, The last addition to the fleet, the 
Carmelita, now in New York, nearly ready for her trip around the 
Horn, is a departure from the models in vogue in the West, having 
less beam, much more deadrise, and a heavy lead keel, and if at all 
snecessful, her advent will pave the way for the same reforms in 
model, ballast and rig that are so general in our Hastern yachting. 
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ALARMING SPREAD OF THE “CUTTER CRAZE.” 
HGINNING in the columns of Forest anp Stream, the itation 
in favor of deeper, narrower and safer boats found its first re- 
sults in the keel sloops of Boston, and a little later in t} e fine fieet of 
cutters hailing from New York. From these points it has spread 
first to Lake Ontario, where Verve and Aileen have conclusively 
demonstrated the merits of the type with great results, as shown in 
the constantly increasing fleet of deep boats of all sizes. This sea- 
son Lake Michigan was invaded by a foreign craft, a second Verve, 
that has already impressed the lessons of ForEsT AND STREAM on 
Chicago yachtsmen. Last year the cutter Surf appeared in the 
Knickerbocker Y.(C., and occasioned much unfavorable comment 
among the faithful; this year her performances have caused a 
complete change of sentiment in fayor of less beam and keels. 
Wherever the cutters go, they stay, and like the dead flies, several 
more come to the funeral—of shoal draft, great beam and lubberly 
rigs. California is a long distance off, even in these days of rail and 
wire. but the idea has struck there at last. Besides the two cutters 
elsewhere mentioned in FormsT AND STREAM, we learn that another 
small cruiser isnow in framé at Oakland, and will soon be ready. 
She is a little cutter of Hastern model, intended mainly for single- 
handed cruising. San Francisco is going slowly into cutters, but we 
know what the West is when a matter is once fairly taken in hand, 
and may expect soon to see a fleet there that willrival some of our 
Eastero ones. That yachtsmen there are waking up to those facts 
long accepted here is shown by the following clipping from the San 
Francisco Morning Call: ‘ 
“What is wanted on this bay to make yachting matters ‘lively is 
- a fieet of single-handed yachts—little fellows from 20 to 35ft. long. 
in Hurope and in the Hast, wherever yachting is lively, these boats 
predominate. A class of young men own and handle them who are 
active, enthusiastic and in for fun, and they keep yachting matters 
te the fore. The big yachts areso expensive to maintain that few 
ean indulge in them, and most of those who do, have to hire some 
one to sail the yachts for them. Much enthusiasm cannot be ex- 
pected from this kind of yachtsmen, The owners of small yachts 
who sail their own craft bring others into the sport and keep up the 
excitement. Weought to start in on a fleet of three-tonners here.” 
YACHT DESIGNS. 
E call attention to the advertisement in another column of Mr. 
Win. Evans Paton, N. A., the designer of the 3-tonner Cuny- 
tush and 5-tonner Olga, each the fastest in her class abroad, Mr. 
Paton, who has made the subject of yacht design a special study, is 
an expert in the latest methods of scientific designing, and the suc- 
cess of his boats proves not only the yalue of such methods, but his 
thorough acquaintance with them, as shown also in the elaborate 
stability curves of Olga and Cunytush, which lately appeared in the 
Field, The dimensions of Cunytush, as given in the same paper, 
are: 
Length on waterline ......-...-...+:- mens eee 28.53f6. 
Breath Wise sete ta cme ees gree kere 4,70Ft. 
DASE OF Water esses beep ee remap pep ae teen seh 5. 50ft. 
DIGATE GMAT es Wi tet Astrea as na deecess apes BARB yt 4, 00£t. 
Area of loadwater plane..... 0 ......-522--08e 97sq ft. 
C. B. aft center of length............... Wovens) -OSEG: 
C. B. below waterline..........-.-.--.--2.00e- 1.63ft. 
C. L. R. below L. W. L..... PE eke eer oo 2.31ft. 
Displacement. o,--2. 6. et ecee cee te nei eeneses . @ tons. 
Area of immersed surface..........-+0ceseees 260sq. ft. 
0 ae rite ee eo ren eee 612ft. 
Me Ty eee avNeue ares tee ee gies SEL, 
Angle at which deck enters water..........-. 45° 3/ 
Statical stability at that angle ........... ... 11.1ft. tons, 
Angle of maximum stability... .5...........- 102° 
Stability at that angle... .. ser aeee 22. 0£6, TONS, 
Angie of vanishing stability. -..............-. 180° 
Area of three lower sails............-s-sen ers 750sq. ft. 
C, BE. above L. W.L..... OO eee dat Vie ee 14.38f6. 
Sail per foot of wetted surface ............. + ao 
INTERNATIONAL RACES. 
HE rumors of the intention of an English yacht to challenge for 
the America Cup, that prevail each year when other items of in- 
terest fail, are current this season in full force. and whilenothing cer- 
tain is yet known, the possibilities are such that if not too late, itis 
at least full time that we looked the question square in the face, if 
we are to make a fight for the retention of the trophy. Two 
questions arise at the outset, what yacht will come? the answer to 
which we can at present only guess at; and what will we meet her 
with? which can be answered more definitely if not satisfactorily. 
There is little prospect of a schooner coming over, as Miranda is 
now for sale. Should she come, we have to meet her either Mon- 
tauk, Grayling or Fortuna, and the result would in all probability be 
a surprise to those who base their ideas of the relative merits of En- 
glish and American schooners on the races of the America, or those 
of eyen fifteen years oe: Of the other ‘two-stickers, the yawls are 
the famous Wendur, Watson’s steel beauty, and the ‘Lorna by Rich- 
ardson, the former of which has scored six firsts and three second 
prizes out of sixteen starts with £355 cash, and the latter nine firsts 
and seven seconds to twenty-two starts, with £905. While it is 
hardly probable that either will come out, they would prove worthy 
antagonists to Bpy EDs we could put against them, 
The rest of the list is soon numbered, for the flyers of 1884 were not 
numerous. Samcena, Vanduara and Hrycina need not be considered, 
as the former has not raced this year, and the two latter have done 
nothing that would justify their selection, and although none of these 
are yet old boats, we must look among a still newer set for the favor- 
ites. Of these the smallest is Mr. Webb’s famous 40-ton Tara, This 
cutter is of composite build, steel frames and wood planking, and is 
similar to our Ileen in proportions, being 66f£t. on waterline with 11.55 
ft. beam. In the past season she has sailed 39 races, winning 19 firsts 
and 4 seconds, and a pot of £867. There is little reason to doubt that 
a boat of her dimensions would beat Bedouin, and those familiar with 
Ileep are firm in the belief that with proper handling she too will 
prove amateh forthe beamier cutter, and as the latter has beaten 
the sloops fairly off the field, itis hardly probable that the center- 
boards would beableto do anything with the fighting 40. Good as 
Tara is, however, ihe chances willbe still better with a larger boat 
which can more than save her allowance over the 70ft. sloops. 
Next on the list is the new 60-tonner Marguerite, designed by Rich- 
ardson, and built at Inman’s yard, in Lymington, this year. Like 
Tara she has a steel frame, planked with 2in. pitch pine and teak, 
with a steadier of 51 tons beneath and 6 tonsinside. Her length on 
waterline is 74ft., beam 13ft. 6in., and she draws 12ft. Gin. Her per- 
formances this season have been very poor, netting but 2 firsts to 19 
starts, with £165, and there is no reason to suppose that her keel will 
part the waters of the western ocean this season. 
Next in size to her comes Marjorie, 68 tons, successor to and near 
relative of Madge of glorious memory, and, like her, designed by 
Watson for Mr. James Coates. He length is 79.1ft.; beam, 14.5. In 
addition to her victories of last season, she scores 10 firsts, 5 seconds 
out of 35, with £922. Marjorie has been mentioned before1n connec- 
tion with the Cup, and the well-known spirit of her owner makes her 
selection possible, in which event the reappearance of Captain Dun- 
can in our waters would no doubt bring joy to the hearts of our 
yachtsmen who remember him and his tricks of old, 
From the Scotch boat to the next is a jump in size, as the last two 
on the list are the big ones, Genesta 80 and Irex 85 tons. The former 
is an enlarged edition of the Tara, by the same designer, and was 
built this year for Sir Richard Sutton, by Messrs, Henderson, of Par- 
tick J.ike the Tara, she is of composite build, steel and wood, with 
a waterline of 8ift, beam of 15ft., and 18ft. 6in. draft, her keel 
weighing 60 tons. She has been,in the main, the moat successful 
boat of, the season, winning 7 firsts, 10 seconds, to 34 starts, with £775, 
and in all probability will be in better form im her second season. 
Much of her suceessis no doubt due to her designer, Mr, Beavor 
Webb, and the active interest that he has taken in the question of the 
international races makes it extremely ee that Genesta will 
be the next champion in the lists, and judging from such records as 
are obtainable here, the selection will be the best possible, as although 
the allowance of time to a smaller boat may be heavy in light winds, 
the challenging yacht may be called on to meet a new sloop longer 
than any of the old ones, 
The last boat is Irex, the possessor of the largest lead keel ever 
cast—72 tons. She was designed for Mr. John Jameson by Richard- 
son, and was built by Fay, of Southampton, last winter, Her length 
is 84ft., with 15ft, beam, In prizes she falls behind Genesta, having 8 
firsts and 2 seconds for 29 starts, with a purse of £590. Besides these 
boats already tried, a new 47-tonner is now being built by Fay for 
Mr. George Warren, of Boston, owner of Maggie, Her wood and lead 
keels are now ready, and she will doubtless be finished in good time 
for the season; but the permances of a new yacht are uncertain mat- 
ters, and it would notbe altogether safe to challenge with an untried 
boat and before she is in proper trim. Whichever of these is selected, 
the question of what we shall meet her with is a most unsatisfactory 
one. 
We have heard so much for along time of the superiority of the 
American sloop that one would suppose there was a fine fleet read 
to maintain their side of the question, but a look about New Yor 
dispels the idea. Arrow and Vision haye long since had their day, 
Pocahontas begun and ended her career in the same week, and but 
four are left to consider—Hildegarde, Mischief, Gracie and Wanny. 
Of course it is out of the question that Bedouin should be selected to 
meet the coming boat, although an honor to which her record fully 
entitles her as the fastest single-sticker in America, as such a proceed- 
ing would be a complete surrender by the sloop men of the entire 
aes Hon; and would decide nothing as to type, The issue between 
sloop and cutter has been fought fairly from the time Madge first 
sailed here, and although now decided, the last battle must be for the 
Cup next year if challenged. 
Of the four sloops now in actual racing, Hildegarde has done little 
during the past two years to sustain her reputation, or to justify her 
selection, and she is virtually out of the question. Mischief, the best 
of the pack, is too small with her 6fft. length to haye any chance 
against the flyers from abroad, and big Gracie seems from this sea- 
son's performance to be in worse trim than in previous years, She. 
has won but one race to five starts this year, and has been beaten so 
often by Bedouin in the past two seasons, that her chances against a 
still faster cutter would not be worth considering. Her day has been 
a long one, but she is near the end of it, and itis not likely that she 
will ever add many more victories to her long string, 
Besides her there remains but Fanny, and on her the task will im all 
probability fall in the event of accident. She is the largest sloop 
except Gracie, and the best we can show in point of size, but hke the 
others, her races with Bedouin do not give much promise of her 
beating bigger and probably better boats than the latter. 
There comes now from Bayonne and regions beyond the rumor of 
anew sloop, of some 80ft. loadline and of 4 beams, thus narrower as 
well as deeper than the old ones. This craft will in all probability be 
buili this winter, and make her appearance in the spring, but under © 
all the disadvantages incident to.a first season, we cannot rely on 
what she can do. 
If British yachtsmen are anxious to take home the Cup, now is their 
time. Yachting in the larger class of sloops isat a very low ebb, and 
we are in astate of transition from which, in a few years, some pow- 
erful boats will be evolved. Now we have a few old time sloops and 
one cruising cutter, if they wait much longer, they may find an 
American cutter in no way inferior to their own to meet them, or 
that long expected and unaccountably delayed sloop, of which so 
much has been heard since the weakness of our older boats has been 
made apparent, may at last be forthcoming, 
Eyen now the ‘representative American sloop” hardly exists in 
our racing fleet. The contamination of foreign ideas, double jibs, 
lead ballast, and other features, has broken down the broad dlstine- 
tion a few years since existing between sloop and cutter, until now 
we have centerboard sloops with heavy lead keels and half cutter 
rig, and the line of demarkation once so clearly drawn between the 
shoal, wide, low-waisted. oyer-rigged sloop with iron or stone ballast, 
and single jib and the six-beam racing cutter, is now a series of very 
short steps; Vision, Fanny, Mischief, Athlon, Vallcyr, Thetis, Huron, 
Bedouin, een; the first and last are far apart, bub from one to the 
other is but a little way. This year the question will be between a 
sloop and a cutter, next year, if delayed, it will be between American 
and English cutters. 
YACHT BUILDING AT RYE.—Mr. David Kirby, best known as the 
builder of large sloops, has lately devoted some study to the smaller 
boats for cruising, especially those in which light draftis a prime 
necessity, and has turned out several new models. He has in hand 
now a cabin sloop 27£t. on loadline, and 3114 on deck, with moredepth 
than is usual with boats of her class. She is intended mainly for 
cruising. He has also completed the models fora sloop of 2544ft. 
loadline, and one of 238ft. 
MODEL YACHT BUILDING.—A monthly paper devoted to the 
building and sailing of model yachts is now published at Hull, Eng - 
land, the subscription being one shilling and sixpence per year. 
HELEN.—The owner of this schooner yacht has enrolled her in the 
Quaker City Y. 0., whose signal she will fly in the future. 
ANSWERS TO CORRESPONDENTS. 
J, N. G.—A very fair gun can be bought for the price, or by adding 
$5 you can get one of the arms advertised in this issue. 
H. R. H.—Please inform me where I can procure one or two pairs 
of large steer’s horns for an ornament to a club room and method of 
finishing them? Ans. You had better write to J. Wallace, of 16 North 
William street, New York city. 
G. L., Clayton, Berkshire county, Mass.—Will you please inform 
me where an M. von Culin spike dog collar with instruction book can 
be bought? Can you furnish one for me, and can you recommend it 
for breaking dogs? If not, what is the best book Icanget on break- 
ing the setter and the price? Ans. We do not recommend the force 
collar except sometimes for old and headstrong dogs, Get Ham- 
mond’s ‘‘Training vs. Breaking,"’ and jrain your dog by kindness. 
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