Duc. 25, 1884] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
AS87 
our light summer weather”? And her keel “it ain’t so good as a 
board nohow’’ And then she has not got all her headsail ‘in one.” 
And there is no room on her decks “for to manage her sails.’? And, 
goodness gracious, only to think of it, she has ‘‘got no bottom for to 
sail on,” and she has got *‘no beam for to stand up to or for to carry 
‘sail onto her.” Awful! And still worse, she goes down deep,sleep 
into the water, ‘‘where more resistance is found.”” And in a sea ‘‘she 
ain*t got n0 buoyancy for to rise over ib,’’ and the poor thing has to 
_ go the submarine passage. And to topit all,she is an invention of 
the naughty fellows across the water, bucking along in their bull- 
headed way without once asking our permission! ae 
Do not falter, gentlemen. Build “that” sloop, bring on Fanny, 
Gracie, Thetis and the whole family to the funeral. Your flat-bottom 
lighters, whittled at the ends; your half-hearted half-breeds which 
would like to be cutters, but didn’t dare to. The whole tribe of traps 
and hermaphrodites should be on hand for the slaughter. And pray, 
what have ye to fear? Is not the sloop of light weight ‘‘for our light 
winds?” Does-she not ‘sit on top of the water’’ and ‘‘skim along the 
surface,’ where “the least resistance is found?’ Has she not all her 
headsail “in one,’ And a centerboard ‘for to hang on better with”? 
And a waste of beam and a whole pasture of bottom ‘for to stand up 
with and forto carry sail onto her’’? And big sails too? Aud she doesn’t 
heel oyer and ‘therefore’? does'nt “just slide off to leeward’? and 
there is no chance for the wind “just to blow over her.” And she 
“rides” over the seesso beautifully with lots of “spare buoyancy.** And 
any quantity of room—on top of her bara roof—“for to manage her 
sails’? And then is not your sloop ‘patriotic.’ Real up and down 
Yankee? That alone is enough to secure your side the victory. 
Then why falter, gentlemen? Heave ahead with your vaunted 
traps. The cutters will be there. Show up “that” new sloop. We 
all want to see just one real good sloop, She does not exist. Never 
has according to your own proclamations. Let us have her now. Let 
us.ses how many miles a ‘real sloop” can take out of such a well- 
nown “failure” asthe Fanny for example. I will put shekels on 
the Fanny, you can back your new contraption. Stick to the “real 
sloop.”’ Give us no half-breed, more cutter than sloop. Go the 
whole bnsiness while you are at it. gentlemen. If you are right, the 
wholer you go the business the righter of course you willbe. Throw 
her together in the good old style with the ‘‘choicest of material,” 
nice sappy, heavy yellow pine, fresh from way down in Georgia. 
Build her good and strong. ‘l'ons of cross-grain wooden knees. Spike 
down the beams and huge wooden floors with great big nails. But 
don’t, don’t let the galley interfere with the stepping of the mast! 
Let the cooking ‘‘for a large party of guests’ go for the nonce. The 
chances are the sloop will do all the cooking of your goose that need 
be, Give her slack rigging so that she may be ‘‘elastic.’’ A-cockpit 
to hold all the showers of spray from forward and the suckling tars 
who groan for ‘‘comfort.*’ A tenement shanty to occupy the decks 
and cut the hullin twain. Nice light gossamer for sails, you used to 
tell us, was best in our light winds. Tie them down tight all round to 
sticks and booms, and whiskers, and like clamboat devices. And, 
entlemen, don’t forget to win all her races on paper before she is 
aunched, for she will never do it afterward. 
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once what a sloop is like anyway, though she be the last of the Mo- 
hicans. You ‘were notin a hurry to build that sloup.’’ Now let us 
hope you have been aroused by the challenges received, and that the 
preliminary blowing of the ‘‘prominent’’ yachtsman im the Herald 
may be followed ‘tin a hurry” with something more truthfulin fact 
and more creditable to the great body of American yachtsmen. 
Since your spokesman has gone on record, let me do likewise. Bar 
fluke and accident, with the barely possible exception of a nice top- 
sail breeze and a great deal of reaching over the course, put your 
shining ducats on the coming cutter every time. And in the excep- 
tion above noted, don’t be very much afvaid to do the same thing. 
C. P, Kunnarpt. 
HOW THE WIND BLOWS. 
Hditor Forest and Stream: 
All good yachtsmen thank you kindly for the neat way you put 
things last week as to the general trend of the ideas now making 
their way throughout the world of yachting in America. Viore depth, 
more draft, more lead keel, in short, *‘more cutter’ at every step. 
This seems to be the war-cry of the times, and to this all sailormen 
will heartily grunt ‘amen.’ The play daysin imitation of the sport 
are coming to an end, and a healthier, manlier, and more dignified 
pastime is gathering strength, 10 be measured by the rapid increase 
in cutters and the general modification of our sloops in the same 
direction. Let me add to your evidence still another little para- 
graph, bearing upon the tendencies of the times. In a nice little 
sketch of acruiss from Boston to ‘The Shoals,’ in the January 
number of Outing, occurs this passage, fuil of meaning, as an 
index of the sentiments now prevailing and percolating even the 
conservative old salts and long-shore relics originally brought up 
under the fallacious light draft dogmas of the now antiquated school. 
*Ye’ve a good boat there an’ a safe one....what*llshe draw?” _ 
“Hive feet.” (The boat was only thirty feetlong. Just fancy the 
sensation and adverse predictions the announcement of such dratt 
would have made upon the mind of an old shellback fiye or six years 
ago! Now he has learnt to value drattin the true light and extolls 
the possession thereof). 
‘How much have ye on her keel?’ continues the old-time tar. Here 
again imagine any of his class approvingly asking such a question 
before the cutter agitation in your columns! Why, the old-style 
nautical critic would have been taken fiat aback, perfectly aghast, 
and biessed his eyes if he would go to sea in a boat with ballast out- 
side. Not so the same individual to-day. For the answer comes 
back: ‘'Twenty-four hundred.” 
And the sea dog of fifty years exposure to the winds and hard 
knocks of his profession smiles willing approyal and pronounces his 
dictum: ‘‘A man that knows his vusiness need never fear for him- 
self in her.” 
So the American yachting world progresses, and steadily ap- 
proaches that mark of perfectionim the planning of our pleasure 
vessels which yon first had the good sense and courage t» promul- 
gate through FoREST AND STREAM in the face of the fircest opposition. 
And when the tide has come in atits full, I venture the prediction 
that the sloop will have entirely disappeared by a change so gradual 
that her replacement by the out-and-out cutter will have been quicstly 
accomplished, without wren 7h or jar upon our natural and excusable 
national sensibilities. We will be able to delude ourselves pleasantly 
with the notion that we have not copied from abroad, but that we 
have all by ourselves made a discovery in yacht building parallel 
with the outcome of our British cousins’ experience. May you carry 
on your good missiou in the future as you have in the past, is the 
wish of all level-headed yachtersin this country. Happy-Go-Lucky. 
ORIVA AND PENGUIN. 
Me following statement makes it evident that one side or the other 
is very much mistaken as to the relative positions of the yachts, 
as their statements are diametrically opposite. Only the crew of the 
three vachts witnessed the portion of the race in dispute, and in cor- 
roboration of the testimony of any one of them there is but the 
knowledge of what the two boats have done previously, which cer- 
tainly favors the side of Oriva: 
Hditor Forest and Stream: ‘ ; 
As Tam the authority for the statement by ‘‘Subscriber” in your 
paper concerning late race of 8. C. Y. C., I hereby certify that the 
said statement is correct. The Penguin did outsail Oriva at least one 
mile to windward in that race upon one tack, and until] her sails gave 
out, the harder the breeze, the faster she gained upon her, and did 
place her under her lee before breaking down. I was on board the 
Penguin and know when a boat is outsailed. The Penguin tacked for 
Athlon before Oriva had overtaken Athlon. The time of rounding 
Lightship by the three boats can be taken from the record of race. 
New York, Dec, 17, 1884. PHItip HLSwWoRTH. 
A SHOAL DRAFT STEAM YACHT.—Messrs. Poillon will shortly 
lay the keel of a new steam -yacht. modeled by Mr. Phillip Elsworth, 
for Mr. John A, Morris, to be used about New Orleans. Her dimen- 
sions will be, length on waterline 122ft.,on deck 137ft. 6in., beam 
23ft., depth of hold 11ft. 2in., draft 7ft. She will be built of wood, 
with frames of white oak and chestnut, the planking of yellow pine. 
The engines will be compound, 15 and 24 by 18in., and steam will be 
supplied by two steel boilers, The yacht has just been laid down, 
and the keel will shortly be in place. 
CARMELITA,.—Mr. Coleman’s schooner was run down on the ways 
on Saturday last, but the water was too low to float her, so'she will 
lay until next spring tides. Her spars are on end and her rigging set 
ioe ae joiners are now at work in her cabin which is nearly com- 
pleted. 
STEAM LAUNCH FOR THE ATALANTA.—A very fast steam 
launch has lately been completed by the Herreshofis, for Mr. 
Jay Gould’s steam yacht Atalanta. Her length is 36ft., beam 74éft., 
and she has shown very high speed on her trial trip. 
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