July 16, 1885. 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



493 



Would Ike. secretary have ai it objection to state how many 

 of the seventeen clubs named on his official notepaper have 



paid their dues, and are, therefore, bona tide members of the 

 kennel club? This is essentia] tor the guidance of exhibitors. 

 1 can see a great sai g ahead, MJr. Osborn, on this champion- 

 ship rule of yours, combined with the question of member- 

 ship." 



[In the absence of any official explanation of the duties per- 



taming to the committees, and as the members of the club do 



ee as to the exact province oi these standard 



committees, if iB perhaps a futile uiidertaking to endeavor to 



t how far that province does extend, If by i | 

 ing on stan lards, Secretary Osborn means that they are to har- 

 monize and formulate the views expressed by fanciers, and to 

 present these for the consideration of the club, that is essen- 

 tially the course of action we have said to be theirs; but if by 

 agreeing on a standard it is meant that the club must accept 

 what they determine, that is a horse of a very different color, 

 and it is full time to call a halt. Is it uot unfortunate that in a 

 matter Of so much concern as this, the A. K, C. should not 

 have given out to the public an official statement of just what 

 they are doing or intending to do? The composition of some 

 of the committees is not such as to warrant in the public a 

 very high degree of confidence, if the members are to serve ru 

 any other capacity than a, clerical one. The public would 

 welcome from Secretary Osborn a transcript of the minutes of 

 the Philadelphia meeting, giving in exact Wording the duties 

 of the standard committees. There should be in those minutes 

 such a clear definition.] 



Kililnr Forest and Stream: 



Mr. J. H. Naylor has been appointed a. member of the stand- 

 ard committee on Newfoundlands, bull-terriers, Skyes and 

 poodles, in place of James Moi timer, resigned. Mr. W. D. 

 Peek of Sew Haven, Conn., on pugs, in place of M. H. Oyer, 

 resigned, and Mr. J. A. Nickerson of Boston, Mass., in place 

 of Elliott Smith, on St. Eloio protest committee. 



G-. E. Osborn, Secretary A. K. C. 



Birmingham, Conn., July IS. 



sign of good temper, a characteristic of the old English mas- 

 tiff. The strength and prominence of the gygomfttic arches 

 iudieate the volume anil leverage of the muscles acting upon 

 the lower jaw. The points I have always taken iuto considera- 

 tion for my personal guidance are (1) width between the 

 points of tushes (my Monarch -Sir being 'lh[ inches, old Druid 

 being only 3 inches bare), (:.') massiveness and convexity of 

 lower jaw, (3) width or arch of zygomatic or cheek bones, (4) 

 shortness of muzzle. Why breeders should be content with 

 long, pointed-muzzled, ugiy mongrel boarhound-be&ded mas- 

 tills When short, typical-headed ones (as good in all other 

 respects) can possibly be bred, L have yet to learn, and for my 

 own part would sooner reduce the size of the head down to 

 §9 or :10 inches. In fact, a dog standing only 31 or 38 inches 

 (which was the height of my Dreadnought) is a far truer 

 representative of the old English mastiff than some long, 

 pointed-nosed brute deriving the type of his head from some 

 Alpine sheepdog or Danish boarhound ancestor. 



Because the London breeders may neither know how or have 

 the requisite space to rear the English mastiff properly, and 

 be giad to dispose of their cripples to foreigners, that is no 

 reason why American breeders should substitute a, lOhg- 

 l.eaked, pointed-muzzled, doubtful-pedigreed animal of a 

 wrong type for the real thing. Such dogs may be called, in 

 time to come, American mastiffs, but I for one would not own 

 such outsiders. For the last twenty years the English fanciers 

 have reckoned in arough way that as a rule the muzzle snould 

 only be one-third of the total length of the head, and if we 

 take the measurements of some of the largest mastiffs we 

 shall see that the muzzle is not necessarily shortened to the 

 detriment of other points, or that any great diminution in 

 length of body has been arrived at. Below are the measure- 

 ments of a few of the largest specimens 1 can call to mind. 

 Mr. Lukey's Governor, Rev, D'Yearsley's Aulaf, Oapt. Em- 

 doe's Druid, my Giant King arid Col, Tempest's Saxon, a dog 

 bred by Miss Agliouby by a son of Old Eju"s. He was a 

 larger dog than Green's Monarch, and both Mr. Cautley and 

 Mr, Thompson preferred him to that dog. 



trlE AMERICAN MASTIFF TYPE. 



Editor Forest rind Stream: 



Xt the present time in America there seems Considerable 

 agitation in the minds of some as to what is to be, an should 

 be. the true standard to award to and breed for in the mas- 

 tiff; and it seems very much like a question as to what is to 

 be the acknowledged type of the American mastiff of the 

 future. Will your" countrymen aim at the true old English 

 standard, or will they accept mere gigantic size and fortui- 

 tously reared specimens, such in this country having rightly 

 been discarded as mere' outsiders and only fit for yard dogs? 

 Or wilt they endeavor to attain the true tvpe, combined with 

 fair size and symmetry? In fact, well-reared, straight-limbed, 

 but at the same time thoroughly typical specimens, not mere 

 long-headed mongrels, showing unmistakable trace of their 

 boarhound, Alpine sheepdog, or bloodhound ancestry. 



1 have almost given the breed up, having only one little 

 ptropy at the present time; and having given up exhibiting 

 myself, it matters teally very little to me whatever type any 

 get of ignoramuses or empirics, either in this country or 

 America, may agree upon to set up as the standard. At the 

 same time, I am" inclined to smile (there was a time I should 

 have felt vexed) when I see and read incorrect types set up 

 and advocated by men who know next to nothing about the 

 breed. However, the American breeders that I have corre- 

 sponded with have always struck me as being acute men 

 enough, clear-headed and desirous of information, without 

 1 1 e ing" to o se I topin i on a bed , 



"Mastiff," in your issue of June 4, shows at once that 

 while he can appreciate size aud power, he knows very little 

 of the true tvpe of the English mastiff, or the style of animal 

 your English cousins have striven to reproduce, and keep up. I 

 have no sympathy with our Loudon fanciers, many of whom, 

 fearing their mastiffs in a most artificial way with far too lit- 

 tle exercise, realize a flabby, weak-limbed, short-backed ani- 

 mal, with often little beside, their typically short, massive 

 heads to recommend them, Your countrymen protest against 

 the imperfections of such specimens, and their protests are 

 calculated to produce good results. Yet they have the good 

 Sense to breed from the very doga they Write against, in order 

 to secure their good points and altering their bad ones as far 

 as possible, Your correspondent quotes Lieut.-Col. Gamier as 

 an acknowledged authority, and while I have no wish to un- 

 dorate the ability of that most theoretical and somewhat 

 imaginative writer and enthusiastic advocate for size, I fail 

 to see why his dictum should, and cannot allow that it does, 

 carry the weight with it. your correspondent "Mastiff'' seems 

 to think. It is very well to quote any writer as an authority, 

 however paltr.y in reality, because his opinions seem to lend 

 weight to one's own at first sight. Looking through the Stud 

 Book I do not find Lieut.-Col. Gartner's name as either the 

 breeder or exhibitor of a single mastiff of note. Still as a 

 wiiter he has always contended for a good head, and is per- 

 fectly justified in pointing out the defects in specimens that 

 may come before him, but that cannot and does not alter the 

 true type. The whole of "Mastiff's" argument is centered on 

 the statement "that short heads mean short bodies, and gen- 

 erally a want of size, power and activity." Statements that 

 (with all courtesy) are altogether incorrect, aud show a 

 thorough ignorance of the specimens we have bred in England 

 dming the last twenty years. 



I have for the last fifteen years been the warmest advocate 

 for shortness of muzzle and have lived long enough to see my 

 views almost universally accepted in England, and those that 

 differed with me on the point some fourteen years ago are 

 nowhere, and others have veritably gone to the dogs. Such I 

 fully expect to see the position of those grumblers with you, 

 when in a few years the American talent has had sufficient 

 time to produce specimens of well-grown, fair-sized mastiff's, 

 with the true, broad, short muzzle. Although at one time I 

 was the breeder and owner of the shortest-muzzled mastiffs in 

 England and cultivated shortness of muzzle until my strain 

 became noted for their good heads, yet I defy any one living 

 to point to anj- dog of my breeding that was markedly too 

 short in body or deficient in power or activity. I never aimed 

 at vast size (as it is really no characteristic of the breed, how- 

 ever much some may appreciate it), and it is probable that 

 being content with symmetrical and muscular bodies with 

 really good heads, I won the prizes and made the mark I did 

 as a breeder. Mr. Lukey's Governor had far too long a head, 

 a defect he inherited from his sire, whose breedingwas doubt- 

 ful, the strain showing every indication of a boarhound cross. 

 Too long a back is also a defect, being very much against 

 jumping power with safety, either in man, horse or dog. Mr. 

 Lukey's Governor eventually lost his life through his long 

 weak back and want of spring, as endeavoring to follow his 

 master over some palings, he hung up by the hlndlegs and 

 broke his back, never being able to stand afterward, and I 

 fail to see any particular advantage in a particularly long 

 body. We like to see a short back in the cart horse, and not 

 a long one in the hunter. Length of body may denote speed 

 (not necessarily a characteristic of the mastiff) but it is no 

 sign of strength. 



The general shortness of head in the mastiff should be ob- 

 tained, not from any shortness of the lower maxillary, which, 

 allowing for the convexity in the best specimens, is little 

 shorter in reality than in' the apparently larger and more 

 pointed muzzled animals. It is the shortness of the nasal 

 bones and the upper maxillary which is the chief character- 

 istic that mark the distinctive'opposite between the grey noun d 

 and nioiossiau group, the former formed for speed. The latter 

 I look upon as chiefly a sort of powerful and discriminating 

 living man trap. General width between the eyes is a sure 





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Aulaf. 



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Giant King. 



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Druid and Governor both had very long stems, those of 

 Saxon and Aulof were short. That a cei tain fashionable strain 

 often runs rather short in the back, I shall not offer to deny, 

 but whether due to want of exercise and proper feeding when 

 growing I am not prepared to determine, so much depends on 

 feeding and exercise. The lion itself when confined in the den 

 of a menagerie becomes cramped in its limbs and their muscu- 

 lar system undeveloped, and even their bones are liable to be- 

 come distorted. 



It was certainly difficult to obtain great size with a 

 good short head, some years since, from the simple 

 fact that the English mastiff without foreign crosses 

 never stood much above thirty inches at shoulder. Mr. King- 

 don in "Webb's Book on the Dog," rightly says: "We do not 

 believe in the purity of mastiffs over thirty inches." If breed- 

 ers have introduced foreign blood to obtain the greater size, 

 that is no reason judges should not insist on all specimens 

 brought before them having typical heads and possessing the 

 tiue conformation of the masti IT, without which they really 

 should be sent straight out of the ring as showing the unmis- 

 takable signs of impurity and departure from the true type. 

 Some people might admire and like to keep an elephant or 

 hyena, but that is no reason why the type of the English 

 mastiff should or can be altered. I leave these facts for the 

 consideration of American breeders, for with them it remains 

 to determine what the type of the American mastiff of the 

 future is to be. M, B. AYynn. 



Leicestershire, England, June 30, 1885. 



MY EXPERIENCE WITH LANCE. 



A FEW days ago I had a letter from my friend, Jack Hod- 

 son, stating that he would be absent in the West for 

 some weeks, and inquiring if I would be good enough in the 

 meantime to take charge of his setter, Lance. The animal 

 was a valuable, one recently purchased, and my friend was 

 anxious to know that he was in good hands. 



Now, I am not very fond of dogs— don't know much about 

 them anyway— but 1 had always understood that setters were 

 an exceedingly docile sort of animal. At any rate, such was 

 the character of the only animal of that kind whose personal 

 acquaintance I had ever enjoyed. It Avas in boyhood days, 

 when old Bill Blue with his dog and gun used to haunt the 

 tavern. He was a veritable Rip Van Winkle to the extent of 

 possessing all the failings with none of the virtues of his ro- 

 mantic prototype. The dog's name was Brag ; but what a 

 nuisance. Not a feature, not a wrinkle, not a hair expressed 

 the slightest intimation that he had the remotest idea of ever 

 bragging about anything, as he slunk along in the wake of 

 Old Bill's heel. He seemed to be in a perpetual state of apology. 

 If perchance a strange dog came sidling and bristling about, 

 or hostile moves intent, then did Bragg roll over on his back 

 and dangle his legs in the air. Or should he casually wink at 

 a canine acquaintance on the opposite side and Bill detected 

 it, out came that cruel pocket lash and then there was lament- 

 ing. I thought our friend Lance would prove some such sort 

 of a dog. 



When I came home the other afternoon my wife told me the 

 dog had arrived, and as she had determined to have nothing 

 to do with him, had directed the man to turn him into the 

 large inclosure in the garden, where we used to keep the fowl. 

 They were all gone now except one old hen and her family of 

 chickens. I immediately went out to interview him. 



Now, the same rule should hold with dogs asmen, that much 

 depends upon a first impression, and I had decided, for the 

 sake of future harmony, to make a good one. To this end I 

 was provided with a patent lash and had familiarized myself 

 with some of the expressions current among the canine 

 nobility. 



- For instance, it is well enough to order a common, vulgar 

 cur to "lie down," but in addressing a high bred dog you 

 should request him to "charge." 



I found my protege in the middle of the inclosure, occupied 

 with the aforementioned hen, the defunct effigy of which he 

 was holding down with his forepaws, while viciously tearing 

 and shaking it. It struck me this was very singular on the 

 part of a setter, very. He was several sizes larger. But the 

 sight of the motherless chickens aroused me, and 1 determined 

 to go iu and administer to him just such a thrashing as I had 

 frequently seen Brag receive at the hands of Bill Blue. 



I thought it well to let him know beforehand that I was not 

 to be trifled with, so I halted within about twenty feet of him, 

 and in a sonorous tone commanded him to "charge." He 

 paused, with his teeth half buried in the carcass, and, without 

 raising his head, rolled the whites of his eyes toward me, and 

 stood motionless. 



It struck me then it would perhaps be in better taste not to 

 insist upon too much on such slight acquaintance, and I de- 

 cided to forego the castigation and be satisfied with the 

 "charge;" but upon this latter I must insist, so again I 

 stamped upon the ground and shouted "Charge!" 



He did. He charged with the impetuosity of the Light 



Brigade He interpreted my command according to the letter 

 and not the spirit. I need not enter into any petty details, 

 but it was evident to me there could be no common ground 

 of intercourse between us so long as such misunderstandings 

 were likely to arise, and. any further attempt at arbitration 

 could on! v lead to further complications. 



"Uncle Kellup" declares "lie ainf no setter at all, or 'tauy 

 rate he's crossed with somethin' else." 



Yes, 1 should say he was. 1 have made several observations 

 of liim since, and 1 should say there was a good deal of the 

 Siberian bloodhound crossed with the South American jaguar 

 and a strain of Bengal tiger, The remainder, for aught I 

 know, may be red Irish setter. 



It should further be stated that these observations were 

 made through a field glass. Jefferson Scribb. 



Providence, R. L 



STUD FEES. 



Editor Forest, and Stream. 



1 havo had it on mv mind for some, time past to write you 

 on the subject of stud fees. I am now glad that I waited, for 

 the advertisement of Graphic in your last issue gives me the 

 best possible text on which to preach ray brief sermon. Ac- 

 cord ing to my understanding, good dogs are imported, bred 

 here and placed in the stud for one of two purposes. Fust, 

 from the sportsman's point of view, *. e., to encourage, dog 

 breeding and to raise the quality standard. Second, from the 

 dog dealer's which is simply to use the dog as a means of coin- 

 ing money for his own pocket. Now, Unquestionably, from 

 the first point of view, the. sportsman has a right to charge a 

 stud fee, and to limit the services ot his dog in any way he 

 may see proper. But the stud fee should lie reasonable, and 

 Hot in any way graduated upon the merits of the dog. There 

 the limitation' can and proper! v should come in. With the 

 dog Sealer I have nothing to do beyond simply expressing my 

 op'iniou that he should not be encouraged. Now, as 1 said, let 

 us start, with Graphic as an example. In England, where he 

 is alone well known, his fee was seven guineas; here where he 

 has his spurs to win, both individually and as a sire, his fee 

 is $100. This puts his owner on the horns of the dilemma I 

 have cited at once. But there are others: Tammany, a tine, 

 young dog and of unquestionably good breeding, but com- 

 paratively unknown, is in the stud at $50. This is exactly 

 double what it should be. Gladstone Kofi", at $50, a parallel 

 case to that of Graphic; Strephon, a mere puppy, at $35 and 

 choice of litter, which is still worse. 1 could cite many others 

 if needful. I frankly say I consider ¥35 should be the top 

 figures for a gentleman's and a true sportsman breeder's stud 

 fee. Let him use the limitation as to services as flatten as he 

 feels inclined. No one can quarrel with thst privilege. But 

 until stud fees are brought within reasonable limits, and the 

 breeding of well-bred dogs increased thereby, we shall have 

 the usual trouble of drawing the. line between the professional 

 dog dealer and the gentleman breeder; a line that 1 would like 

 to see as clear and well defined as any division can be "i'awn. 



Surret. 



THE PET PUG. 



PET dogs that have beeu contaminated by their contact 

 with human beings, and especially those little latter day 

 saints that have managed to win a ribbon or so for their little 

 lady owners at a bench show, put old Button's analogous con- 

 clusions as regards the dog's mental pleability and docility to 



Of course there are exceptions, at least it is fondly to be 

 hoped there are, but to the average stalwart there is no 

 greater pest on earth than a spoiled, dyspeptic, cantankerous, 

 inbred pug. 



"It makes the veins in mv forehead swell, and my hat sud- 

 denly gro - s too small for 'me," said a well-known club man 

 the other day, "to think of o^e little pet brute in particular. 

 He resides where I am stopping at present, in fact, he belongs 

 to my wife. I little thought when the dog hawker, wlo has 

 beefsteaks tied to his legs to allure dogs, stopped me on Broad- 

 way and suggested I should buy the fawn-colored pest, that 

 he had designs on my peace of mind. Otherw ise, I shotdd 

 have strangled him. In a weak moment I went home and 

 told my wife I had seen such a pretty pug— 1 thought the dog 

 pretty then. From that moment I had no rest; she wanted 

 him at once. I tried to dodge the issue, but to no good. Every 

 day 1 came up town my wife would throw her arms around 

 my neck— I have been married three years and know what 

 that means— and whisper, 'Darling, has the man sold that 

 pretty pug yet? No; then Charley, dear, won't you buy him 

 for me. The Griggs have a pug, and it makes me sick to think 

 I haven't got one, too.' I bought that pug, and we have had 

 fleas ever since, 



"For two weeks ray wife kept me awake at night asking me 

 how I liked this name and that name for her pet. She went 

 through every book in the library in search of an inspiration. 

 It was no use. Then she teased me for names. 1 suggested 

 'Kapitancs Antistratikos,' and she laughed at me; I mentioned 

 'Stnffeymeguzzen, 1 and she got mad. I then retired from the 

 christening racket, and she settled ou Googies. There were 

 other Googies in the dog world, so our pug is now known as 

 Lanjan's Googies, and greatness has thus been thrust upon 

 me. Such is fame. 



"From the first Googies was all there. He had as many 

 points as Wall street in a month. His color was the thing 

 until my wife gave him a bath, and then the paint washed 

 off. This nearly broke her heart, and I have had to engage 

 the man who swindled me to come twice a week and touch 

 Googies up. The man savs, 'Yer can bet yer sweet life I am 

 the boss faker in America.' Then Googies lay too much by 

 the fire, and the glue softened and his tail uncurled aud stuck 

 straight out like a pointer's. The hairdresser has to come and 

 crimp it every morning. My wife would sigh and say, 'Oh, 

 Charley, do look at him now, the little darling; look at his 

 beautiful eyes, see how they glitter, see how they express his 

 love for me.' I agreed with her; I rather thought they glit- 

 tered, especially the left one. I was right. Googies fell off 

 the stoop one night, and when he was rescued, empty was oue 

 socket. A little boy who was passing handed me something 

 that he had picked up m the street; he said it was 'a diamond 

 breastpin.' It turned out to be Googles's glass eye. The love 

 my wife had seen was in reality a pinch of phosphorus. 



Googies then knew that he had been discovered as a fraud 

 and uo longer dissembled. His good manners at once took 

 wing. He deserted the parlor and his good mistress for Tren- 

 ton sausages and the cook. His tastes were low and be sought 

 the festivities of the realms of the basement. When he had 

 stuffed himself out with good cheer until he could hardly 

 waddle, he would go and look at himself in the burnished 

 convex boiler to elongate his figure. He is up to all sorts of 

 games, and for a small dog can purloin more meat from the 

 butcher's and hide it on his person than a melancholy Dane. 

 His thirst is of the best order too; he is a terror on the heel- 

 taps in the decanters. 



"One night Googies was decidedly groggy and m a beastly 

 frame of mind. He had been lushing it tor several days and 

 was 'off his feed.' He had been offered saddle of mutton and 

 roasted Currituck widgeon for dinner, all to no good. He 

 began to see things, and as I passed him on my way out he bit 

 at my leg and went whooping off. "When I reached the club 

 some one said, 'Charley Lanjan's got 'em bad, he's going 

 around with a pearl necklace on his leg, he is working the 

 Duke racket,' I heard the remark, aud on looking down 

 found a full set of false teeth sticking in my trousers. They 

 were Googles's. 



"My wife came home one day and said that there was to be 

 a dog show and that she had entered Googies, and wanted me 

 to fix up a pedigree right straight off. I did it. I copied most 



