- 2 . R. Caspary Nov. 9. 1857 
Torcel, who examlned poorly, declared in seyral theaties in carefull 
waystthat I, II and the stipule were 3 stipules of the f oliage-leaf , , 
and overlooked the flower, The branch has the 1 and 2 leaf also in^ 
the same direction, but this happens often*.What I say here has all' 
the approval of Braun, wi)th whom I' examined the plant still in the 
Fall in Berlinv The correct arran^enent of the leaf position has not 
yet been published'; but anyhow, I have acxwHlö^reraarked about it in 
the a^^enda of the Rheni sh-westphalian^ Nature scj/ience Society«. Be- 
sides.it is surprising, that with the difficult position of the lea- 
ves, that leaf V is being drilled thro-ugh?- by the axis,which conti- 
nues growing and comes to Testj6n top, e.g». 
(f See drawing on page 3 of letter ) 
Near A hole of drilling through, 1 - has now ''R^ the back' and also 
••O!*^ the inside. Nelumbo luteum^ ' is in this not at all differentt 
f roir^ Nel , speciosiim^ y if the plant, which Wensteed (? E.D.) sent rae,, 
was that». 
The Japanese and East Indian- species have the thick,flour- 
rieh rhizomes of the Nelumbo species,., which look exactly like the 
illustrations by Dr« Kilgardt (could be Wilgardt ? E.D.)fOften even 
thicker; v. Siebold never showed illustrations. . In the greenhouse 
they neither get as thick nor as floury (mealy,E.D. ) • If Nelumbo 
luteum is a species, is very doubtful to me, I know of no difference 
but that of ,which is linear for it,whereas the N^ - 
lumbo species are ,,thus a very small dif f erence. - - I 
wished, I were a professor and had to boss a large botanical garden^», 
then I would exaraine the matter by cultivating both plant s in quan- 
tity, . May-be, you can send to me later sometime seeds of Nel « Luteum:^. 
What Nelumbo rodophyllum is. I know even less..A botanist without" 
a erarden and attentive gardeners is in bad shape- 
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