94 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Aug. 27, 1885. 



THE AMERICAN CANOE ASSOCIATION. 



THE 1885 meet at Grindstone Island, July 35 to Aug. 8. Moonlight 

 the first week. Races began Monday, Aug 3, second week. 

 .(For the official programme of the races see Forest and Stream for 

 Aug. 13). First and second prizes— flags presented by raeniliers of the 

 Association and others— were given in all races with more than two 

 :starters. Five prizes were given for Records. 



Regatta Committee: R. W. Gibson, Albany; J. L. WeUer, Peter- 

 •boro; R. J. Wiikiu. Brooklyn. 



The taoles of races are given in the order of the programme, 

 a'thoiigh not occm-ring in that order at the meet on account of the 

 weather. The date of each race is printed above it, also the dimen- 

 sions ot canoes defining the class to which they belong. 



Monday A. M., Aug. 3— Record Race. 

 Event 1.— Paddling, Class III., 1 mile with turn. Length not over 

 17ft., beam not under S8iu. 



OwTier. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



Record 

 points. 



M. F. Johnson... 

 Theo. Dunham. . 

 E, Gould 



Toronto . . . 

 Harvard . . 

 Knickerbkr 



Invincible.. 

 Beatrice.. . 

 Hilcrest.. . . 



16 X28% 

 14.3X29 

 15 X28 



1 



2 



upset 



15 30 

 19 DO 



10 











Johnson won, Dunham took second prize. Strong headwind over 

 half the course. 



• TrESDAY A. M., Aug. 4— Record Race. 



Events.— Paddling, Class II., 1 mile, with turn. Length not over 

 15ft., beam not under 36in. 



Owner. 



Oiub. 



C-anoe. 



Size. 



14.3X26 

 14.10XS6 

 15 XS7^ 



Place. 1 



Time. 



Record 

 points. 



W. A. Leys 



Toronto . . . 

 Dock Rat.. 

 Ottawa 



Ariel 



Day Dream 

 Irene 



1 



2 

 8 



IS 50 



14 30 



15 05 



10 



G. E. Edgar, Jr.. 

 R. Baldwin 







Leys won, Edgar took second prize. 



Event 3.— -Sailing, Novices, canoeists never having sailed a canoe be- 

 fore 1885. Any canoe, i}4 miles, triangular course, once around: 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



H. Stanton 



Knickerbocker 

 Bi-ookville 



Flit 



15 X30 

 15.5X30J4 

 14 7x3i 



1 



Upset. 

 Upset. 



19 00 



F. M.Turner 



E. K. Dunham. 



Margaret. . 





Heavy vfind and rough water. Mr. Stanton won the prize and 

 made the best sailiog time once around the course during the meet, 

 having full sail breeze and from a quarter making but two tacks 

 necessary on tbe windward side of the course. He managed his 

 canoe like a veteran sailor. 



Wednesday P. M., Aug. 5— Record Race. 

 Event 4.— Paddling, Class IV., 1 mile with turn. Length not over 

 16ft., beam not under 30m. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



"S 



So 

 « p. 



W. F. Kipp 



St.Law'ce. 



Nellie 



14.6X3014 



14 X39M 

 14.6X30^ 



15 1X30?^ 

 15.3X30^ 



16 X30 



1 



13 00 



10 





Bijou .... 

 Snake 



Daisy 



Verena — 



2 



13 30 



81-5 



J. R. Robertson.. 

 G. O. Totlen, Jr . 

 E. B. Edwards. . . 



Mohican , . . 

 St. Law'ce . 

 Essex .... 

 Peterboro. . 



8 

 4 

 5 

 6 



14 00 



625 

 4 3-5 

 245 

 1 



Kipp won, and Jackson of same olub took second. 



Thursday P. M., Aug. 6. 

 Event 5.— PaddliDg, Class I., 1 mile with turn. No limits to size of 

 canoe. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



M. P. Johnson. .. 

 W. A. Leys 



Toronto 



Maggie .... 



18 X92^ 

 14.3X26 



1 

 3 



13 00 

 13 22 



The best time over the course last year was made by Mr. Johnson in 

 the canoe Maggie, 1^ miles, time 14.48 or 9.53 to the mile. Tandem, 

 1 mile in Maggie was recorded as 9.31. Unfavorable weather pre- 

 vented good time this year. 



Tuesday P. M., Aug. 4— Record Race. 

 E vent 6. — Sailing, Class B, 3 miles, triangular course, twice round. 

 Length not over 17ft., beam 38i^in. for that length; of an inch 

 bearn can be added for each inch of length decreased. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time, 



Record 

 points. 



C. B. Vaux 



New York- 



Sea Bee. , •. . 



15. X2Q% 



1 



50 30 



10 



R. W. Gibson .... 



Mohican . . . 



Snake 



14,6x305^ 



2 



53 00 



9 7-16 



F. S. Rathbun.. . 



Deseronto.. 



Star 



14,2X29 



3 



55 00 



8 14-16 



Robert Tysou — 



Toronto , . . 



Isabel 



18.llX3.3Ji 



4 





8 5 18 



jB. W. Richards . . 



Brockville . 



Grebe 



15 X31 







7 13-16 



0. F. Holdship.. 



Pittsburgh, 



Freyja 



14.5X301.1 



6 





7 3 16 



Geo. O. Totten.. 



Essex 



Daisy 



15.2X3054 



7 





6 10-16 



E. B. Edwards.. . 



Peterboro.. 



Verena 



16 X30 



8 





6 1-16 



A. G. Webster... 



Harvard . . . 



Germaine.. 



15UX31 







upset 



R. W. Bailey,... 



Pittsburgh. 



Katrina ... 



14.7x31 







retired 



C. V. R. Schuyler 



Brooklyn.. 



Guenn 



15.2X31 







disable 



T. Dunham 



Harvard.. . 



Beatrice.. . . 



14.3x29 







upset 



J. E. Mellen 



Rochester.. 



Bertha 



14.2x26% 







retired 



C. A. Neide 



Mohican . . . 



Aurora 



15 X81i^ 







retired 



F. F. Andrews. , 



Rochester, . 



Sofronia . . . 



15 X30 







upset 



P M Wackerhag'n 



Mohican . . . 



Thetis 



14.4X30M 







retired 



E. W. Brown.... 



Knickerb'k 



Inertia 



15 X30 



■■ 





retired 



Vaux won, Gibson taking second place. Heavy wind and sea all 

 through the race. U mile in each round a dead beat to windward. 

 A squall passed over the bay during first round. The jibe at the first 

 turn proved fatal to some. The cautious ones tacked round this flag 

 to avoid danger of jibing. 



Record Race. 



Event 7.— Sailing, Class A, 3 miles, triangular course, twice round. 

 Length not over 16ft , beam not under 38in. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



1 Place. 



Time. 



V, iS 



p !l 



w ^ 



A. K. Nimick.... 

 G. E. Edgar, Jr.. 

 R. W. Baldwin.. 

 Ford Jones 



Pittsburgh. 

 Dock Rat.. 



Ottawa 



Brockville. 



Nirvana . 

 Day Dream 



Irex 



14 X37i^ 

 14.1x26 



15 X3794 

 14.6X27% 



1 



8 



55 30 

 63 30 



10 



7 



upset 

 upset 











in ahead of several of the B class who finished. In 1884 eight canoes 

 started and finished in the Class A race. It is notable that the A class 

 is getting less popular. 



Record Race. 



Event 8.— Paddling and sailing combined, 3 miles, triangular course 

 twice round, UlassesJ A and B to.gether. Paddle }A mile, sail ]4 mile 

 paddle % mile, sail }4 mile, paddle % mUe, finish by sailing mile: 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



c' 



% 



Time. 



Record 

 points. 



R. W. Gibson . . . 

 G. E. Edgar, Jr. . 

 C. A. Neide 



Mohican.. . 

 Dock Rat. . 

 Mohican. . . 



Snake 

 Day Dream 

 Aurora 



14.6x30Sg 



14 1X26 



15 XSlYa 



1 



3 



50 30 

 60 00 



10 



Ret% 



Heavy wind and rough water prevented more men entering. 



Event 9.— Paddling tandem, Classes III. and IV., decked canoas, 1 

 mile. Class III. length not over 17ft., beam not under 28in ., Class IV . 

 length not over 16ft., beam not under 30ih. Prize to each man in 

 winring crew of two. 



Nimick won. Edgar second. This race was started ten minutes 

 after Class B, and, therefore, sailed in same weather. Nimick came 



Names. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



W. F. Kipp 



J. L. Jackson . . . 

 J. R. Robertson . . 

 C. V.R.Schuyler. 



J. S. Davis 



C. F, Smith 



St. Lawrence | 

 St Lawrence f 

 St. Lawrence / 



Brooklyn ( 



St. Lawrence ( 



Nellie. 



Gertie 



■lessie 



14.6X3CJ4 

 15.1X30-)^ 

 lb.}4x31 



1 



13 00 

 13 C5 



Kipp and Jackson took the prizes. Close race. 



Event 10. — Paddling tandem, same as event 9, but open canoes only 

 allowed, 1 mile. 



Names. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



M. F. Johnson.... 

 G. B Wilkinson.. 



A. C. Shaw 



E. Pitt 



K. Martin 



J. W. Higgms.... 



Toronto ( 



Brockville . . . i' 

 Brockville . . . ( 

 Brockville . , . ( 

 Oswego i 



Invincible.. 

 Daisie 

 BaUyhack . 



16 X28% 

 15.3X31 

 15 8X31J4 



1 



2 

 3 



13 00 



14 00 



Johnson and Wilkinson won easily. 



Thursday P. M., Auo. 6— Record Race. 

 E\-ent 11,— Upset race. Class II, canoes and larger, 230ft., at si gnal 

 every cinioe to be turned completely over. 



F. F. Andrews. . 

 C. B. Vaux 



G. B. Wilkinson. 

 M. F. Johnson.. 

 R. W. Gibson , . . 

 E. B. Edwards . , 

 E. Gould 



Club. 



Canoe, 



Size. 



Place. 



Record, 

 points 



Rochester . 

 New York. . , 



Brockville 



Toronto 



SofioLia... 



Sea Bee 



Gunz 



luvincible.. 



15 X80 



15 X29% 

 14.6X37% 



16 X38% 

 14.6X30% 

 16 X30 

 15.11X28 



1 



3 

 3 

 4 



10 



5^ 

 4 





.Snake 



5 



Knickerbocker 



Verena .... 

 Hilcrest . . , 



6 

 7 



fi 



Andrews won. and turned his canoe completely over without moving 

 from the cockpit of his canoe. Invincible, Verena and Hilcrest were 

 all open Peterboro canoe,*, ihe others were decked. 



Wednesday, Aug. 5— Record Race. 

 Event 13.— Paddling, Class IV., cruising trim, canoe and load to 

 weigh 300 pounds or more, 1 mile. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Place. 



Time. 



Record 

 points. 



W. F. Kipp 



R. W. Gibson.,., 

 R. Martin 



St. Law'ce . 

 Mohican. . . 

 Oswego .... 

 Harvard. .. 



Nellie 



Snake 

 Ballyhack. 

 Germaine. . 



14.6X30M 

 14 6X30% 

 15.8X3114 

 151^X31 



1 



3 



11 30 

 13 35 

 13 45 



10 

 4 



A. G. Webster... 



4 



1 



Kipp won easily, Gibson got second prize. 



Event 13 curiously did notappearon the original programme nor on 

 any later edition. The Regatta Committee omitted it no doubt on 

 account of its historical absence of luck, fe eling stire no one could 

 win in such an event. 



Wednesday, Aug. 5— Record iIace. 

 Event 14.— Sailing Class B, 3 miles,triangular course, twice around, 

 no ballast. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Time. 



Place, j 



Record 

 points. 



PMWackerhag'n 



Mohican . ■ 



Thetis 



14.4X80M 



51 40 



1 



10 



F. F. Andrews. . . 



Rochester. 



Sofronia. . . 



15 X30 



F6 40 







C. B. Vaux 



New York . 



Sea Bee .... 



15 X29% 



58 55 



3 





B. W.Richards.. 



Brockville . 



Grebe 



15 X31 





4 



7M 



E. B. Edwards .. 



Peterboro.. 



Verena 



10 X30 









R. W. Gibson.... 



Mohican . . . 



Snake . . 



14.6X30% 





6 



6M 



R. S. Oliver. 



Mohican . . . 



Dlarion B . , 



15 X30% 







5V^ 



F. S. Rathbun... 



Deseronto.. 



Star 



14.3X39 





8 



m 



R. W. Bailey . . . 



Pittsburgh. 



Katrina 



14.6X31 





9 





C. F. Holdship. . . 



Pittsburgh. 



Freyja 



14.5X30}^ 





10 



3H 



J. E. Mellen 



Rochester . 





14.3X26M 





11 



2^ 



Robert Tyson . . . 



Toronto., , . 



Isabel 



13.11x33^1 





12 



IM 



Chas. A. Neide.. 



Mohican. . . 



Aurora.. .. 



15 XSI14 





13 



Thetis won, making up hei' long lead of five minutes entirely on the 

 windward work. Sea Bee and Sofronia sailed a close race aU through, 

 passing each other four times. The wind was Ught and water smooth , 

 with a dead beat to windward on second leg each time round. The 

 famed Aurora got thu-teenth luck. 



Record Race. 

 Event 15.— Sailing, Class A, same conditions as Class B, 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Time. 



Place. 



|.a 



A. K. Nimick. .. 



Pittsburgh. 



Nirvana.... 



14 X27i^ 



58 30 



1 



10 



Ford Jones 



Brockville. 





14.6X87% 



66 15 



67 45 



2 





G. E. Edgar, Jr., 



Dock Rat., 



Day Dream 



14 1X36 



3 





H. W, Shaifer. . . 



Essex 



Nereid 



14.7X28^ 





4 





R. W. Baldwin.. 



Ottawa. . . . 



Irene 



15 X27M 





5 



4 



W. L.Green ,., 



Knickerb'k 



Nettie ..... 



14.2X28 ■ 





6 





B. C. Bakewell., 



Pittsbiu-gh.,Lady Jane. 



14.1X26 





7 





Nioiick won in better time than No. 3 in Class B. 



Thursday, Aug. 6— Record Race. 



^^^^U^-"^^^^'^""^' ^^^^^ II-' cruising trim, canoe and load to 

 weigh 130 poimds or more. ° > 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Time. 



Place. 



«a 



W. A. Leys 



Toronto.... 



Ottawal 



Dock Rat. . 



Ariel 



14.3X26 



15 xr/H 



14,1X26 



18 00 

 13 15 



1 



3 

 3 



10 

 5^ 



R. W. Baldwin.. 

 G. E. Edgar, Jr. . 



Irene 



Day Dream 



Leys won. Baldwin getting second prize. 



Wednesday, Aug. 5— Record Race, 



Event 17.— Sailing, Class B, 1)4 miles, triangular course, limit of 

 (5ft. of sail. 



R. W. Gibson... 

 R. W. Bailey . . 

 P. M. Wackerh'n. 



B. W. Richards.. 



C. B, Vaux 



E. B. Edwards... 



F. F. Andrews... 

 C. V.R. Schuyler 



R. S. Oliver 



E. 0. Grifflu 



Robert Tyson — 



H. Stanton 



C. F. Holdship... 



C. A. Neide 



E. W. Brown . . , 



G. 0. Totten 



J. R. Robertson.. 

 J.L.Rogers. .. 



Snake 



Katrina. . . 

 Thetis.... 

 Grebe .... 

 Sea Bee... 

 Verena . . . 

 Sofronia . . 



Guenn 



Marion B, 

 Lorelei. . . , 



Isabel 



Flit 



Freyja.... 

 Aurora . . . 



Inertia 



Daisy 



Gertie 



Peterboro. 



Size. 



Time. 



i 



cord 

 nts. 









Rei 

 poi 



14.6X30% 



35 35 



1 



10 



14.6X31 



26 10 



3 



9 8-17 



14.4X30M 



16 



8 



8 16-17 



15 X3l 





4 



8 7-17 



15 X29% 





5 



7 15-17 



16 X30 





6 



7 6-17 



15 X30 





7 



6 14-17 



15.3X31 





8 



6 5-17 



15 X30% 





9 



5 13-17 



15 X30 





10 



5 4-17 



13.11x333^ 





11 



4 12-17 



15 x30 





13 



4 3-17 



14.5X801^ 





13 



3 11-17 



15 X31% 





14 



3 3-17 



15 x30 





15 



3 10-17 



15.3X3014 





16 



3 1-17 



IS.Sx-SOijI 





17 



1 9-17 







18 



1 



Gibson won. Bailey second, light wind and smooth water. A close 

 race all through 



Record Race. 



Event 18. — Sailing, Class A, under same conditions as Class B. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Time. 



Place. 



Record 

 points. 



A. K. Nimick 



R. W. Baldwin .. 



G. E. Edgar, Jr.. 



B. 0. Bakewell. 



H. W. Shaffer.. 



Pittsburgh. 

 Ottawa .... 

 Dock Rat.. 

 Pittsburgh. 

 Essex 



Nirvana.... 



Irene 



Day Dream 

 Lady Jane. 

 Nereid... . 



14 X2714 



15 X27% 

 14,1X26 

 14.1x36 

 14.7X28M 



24 10 

 30 30 



1 



2 

 3 



10 



m 



Nimick won, making his .third straight race in Class A; Baldwin 

 second. Nimick's time was Im. 15s. better than the winning B canoe 

 A classs starting 10 minutes atter B may have got a little better wind] 

 but his performance in any event was very creditable. He beat the 

 next boat in his class 6m. ,20s. 



Record Race. 



Event 19.— Paddhng, Class IH., cruising trim, ItiOlbs. canoe and 

 load. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Size. 



Time. 



Place. 



Record 

 points. 



M. F. Johnson.. . 

 E. Gould 



Toronto.... 

 Knickerb'k 



Invincible.. 

 Hilcrest 



16 XS8% 

 15.11X28 



11 25 

 11 33 



1 



2 



10 

 1 



Johnson won and made the best time over the course during the 

 meet, though Kipp was within 8 seconds of him. This was a close 

 race to the finish. 



Event 20.— Sailing, for canoes over the limit, did not corns off, as 

 there were r;o entries. This is a fact wortfiy of note. 



Wednesday, Aug. 5. 

 Event 31.— Hurry-Scurry Race. 



Owner. 



Club. 



Canoe. 



Place. 



G. B. Wilkinson... . 



Brockville 



Gunz 



1 



M. F. Johnson 



Toronto 



Invincible 



3 





Knickerbocker 



Lorn a 



3 



E. Gould 



Knickerbocker 





4 



E. W, Brown 



Knickerbocker 



Inertia 



5 









Though not ahead when the water was reached, by a splendid dive 

 and strong swimming he reached and got away in his canoe first and 

 won. 



This finished the programme proper, as 23, gymnastics, were in- 

 dulged in pretty much all the time, and no regular performance came 



Canoe. Races. 



. Snake 7 



..,Sea Bee 4 



..Day Dream 6 



. Nirvana 3 



..Sofronia 4 



. .Invincible 3 



., Grebe 3 



, . .Verena 5 



...Ariel 2 



.. Nelhe 3 



...Thetis 3 



...Irene 4 



..Freyja 3 



...Katrina 3 



...Star 3 



...Isabel 3 



...Daisy .- 3 



...Marion B 2 



_ _ ...Irex 2 



SO J. L. Jackson 8,03 Bijou 1 



31 G.B.Wilkinson 7.00 Gunz 1 



below. 









THE EECORD. 



Place. 



Name. 



Points. 



1... 



i?. W. Qibson 



...58.15. 



3.... 



...C. B. Vaxix... 



....34.09, 



3... 



...G. E, Edgar, Jr 



,.,31.05 





. .A. K. Nimick 



...30.00. 



5.... 



.. .F, F. Andreivs 



...26.09, 



6 



. , , M. F. Johnson 



...35.05. 



7.... 



...B. W, Richards 



. ...24.00. 



8.... 



.,.E. B. Edwards 



....23,09, 



*9 . . , . 



. . . W. A. Leys 



...20.00. 



*9 



...W. F. Kipp 



....30.00. 



11 ... . 



...P. M. Wackerhagen.. 



...18.95. 



13 



R. W. Baldwin 



....18.35, 



13 



...C. F. Holdship 



....14.08. 



14 





.. ,.13,55, 



15 .... 



...F. S. Rathbun 



....13.37. 



16 



R. Tyson 



....13,01. 



17 ... 



...G. 0. Totten, Jr 



...12.17. 



18 ... 



...R. S. Ohver 



....11,03. 



19 





.... 8.05. 



33 0. V. R. Schu.yler 6,39, 



23 J. R. Robertson 6.01.. 



24 E. 0. Griffin 5.23,, 



25 T, Dunham 5.05,. 



36 H. M. Shaffer 5.05.. 



27 H. Stanton 4.17 



28 R. Martin 4.00... 



39 C, A. Neide 3.41,. 



30 B. C. Bakewell 3 35.. 



31........E. W. Brown 3,58., 



.33 W. L, Green 3.05.. 



33 J. E. MeUen 2.05.. 



34 E. Gould 1.00.. 



35 A. Webster 1.00.. 



* Kipp won a tandem race not in the record. Leys paddled against 

 Johnson in Class I , being the only man entered against him, came 

 .n33 seconds behind tbe winner oyer a mile course, Thu-ty-flve 



..Guenn 3 



..Gertie 3 



. . . Lorelei 1 



..Beatrice 2 



..Nereid 3 



...FUt 1 



..Ballyhack 1 



..Aurora 4 



. Lady Jane 3 



...Inertia 2 



...Nettie 1 



...Bertha 8 



...Hilcrest ... 3 



Germaine 3 



