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PHILADELPHIA KENNEL CLUB. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 

 The following entries have come in since last repoit: 



ALL-AGED. 



Knob (&. Schniber), lemon and white English setter dog 

 (Grouse- Flora). 



Wragg (George Emlen), Gordon setter dog (Toledo Grouse- 

 Maud), 



Creole (Maj. Wibiit), red Irish bitch (Grafton— Megg). 

 A pointer bitch, name not yet procured (C. H. Clark, Jr). 

 An Irish setter bitch, name not yet procured (I. H. Roberts). 



DERBY STAKES. 



Buckingham (George Dc Haven), lemon beiton English set- 

 ter dog (Dude — Dudene). 



Fairt Glen (E. W. Jester), blue belton English setter bitch 

 (Glen Rock— Blue Belle). 



Mr. E. W. Clark, Jr., has withdrawn Rowdy, as he finds 

 that he will be vmable to get him from North Carolina in time. 



L. Shuster, Jr., has declined to enter his dogs. 



As the accommodations at Rio Grande, N. J., where the 

 field trials will be held Nov. 17, 18 and 19, are limited, espe- 

 cially as to sleeping capacity, it is necessary that those wish- 

 ing to witness them should notify the chaii-man of the com- 

 mittee at once. The trials, of course, are open to members' 

 dogs only, and the entries are about evenly divided between 

 the English and red setters. A right sociable time is expected 

 and no growling will be tolerated. 



The weather as I close is right "gamy," the best we have 

 had yet for shooting, and the season opens Monday. Homo. 



THE EASTERN FIELD TRIALS. 



FOLLOWING is a pai-tial list of the entries in the All-Aged 

 Setter and Pointer Stakes of the Eastern Field Trials 

 Club, to be run at High Point, N. C, commencing Nov. 16. 

 We hope to be able to give the remainder next week: 



ENGLISH SETTERS. 



Plantagenet (C. Fred Crawford, Pawtucket, R. I.), orange 

 and white dog, .5yrs. (Dashing Monarch— Petrel). 



Nellie II. (C. Fred Crawford, Pawtucket, R. I.i, black, 

 white and tan bitch, 4yrs. (Coxmt Noble — Rosalind). 



Gus BoNDHU (Adanis & Tucker, Boston, Mass.), black and 

 white dog, 4yrs. (Dashing Bondhu — ^Novel). 



Brandon (J. O'H. Denney, Pittsburgh, Pa,), lemon and white 

 dog, 4yTs. (Royal Rock— Nellie). 



Rex (T. H.Gibbs, Columbia, S.C.), black, white and tan dog, 

 .5yrs. (Reed's Druid— Bessie Lee). 



Belle of Piedmomt (Edward Dext«r, Boston, Mass.), black, 

 white and tan bitch, 2yrs. (Dashing Rovei'- Ranee). 



Blue Lilly (Chas. Heath, Newark, N. J.) black and white 

 bitch, SXyrs. (Blue Drake- Gipsey Queen). 



Pendennis (Chas. Heath, Newark, N. J.), black and whine 

 dog, IMyrs. (Blue Drake— Diana II.). 



Princess Helen (J. Otto Donner. New York), oi-ange and 

 white bitch, S^vrs. (Thvmder— Bessie). 



Clifford (J. Otto Donner, New York), black, white and tan 

 dog, 2}4jrs. (Emperor Fred— Fairy Belle). 



St. Elmo TV. (Dr. S. Fleet Speir, Brooklyn, N, Y.), black 

 white and tan dog (St. Elmo— Clio). ' 



Windemere (Dr. S. Fleet Speir, Brooklyii, N, Y.l, lemon 

 and white dog (Druid — Countess Louise). 



Dashing Noble (John Henricks, Pittsburgh, Pa.), black 

 white and tan dog (Count Noble— Dashing Novice). ' 



Countess (John Henricks, Pittsburgh, Pa.), black and white 

 bitch (Leicester— Pocahontas). 



Queen Alice (Howard Hartley, Pittsburgh, Pa.), black, 

 white and tan bitch, 6yrs. (.Dniid— Cubas). 



IRISH SETTERS. 



Blarney (E. W. Clark, Philadelphia, Pa.), dog, SXyi'S- 

 (Bruce— liurray). 



POINTERS. 



FLOTSA3I (Howard Hartley, Rittsburgh, Pa.), black bitch, 

 21^yrs. (Sambo— Diana). 



Jetsam (Howard Hartley, Pittsburgh, Pa ), black bitch, 

 3i^yrs. (Sambo— Diana). 



' Lucia (D. S. Gregoiy, Jr., 2d, New York), hver and white 

 bitch, 4yrs. (Croxteth— Belle). 



Flash R. (D. S. Gregoiy, Jr. , 2d, New York), liver and 

 white bitch, S^^yrs. (Ranger— White Lilly). 



Scout (D. G. Elliot. New Bi-ighton, S. I.), liver and white 

 dog, 4yrs. (Croxteth— BeUe). 



Snipe (S. L. Pettit, New York), liver and white dog, SUyts 

 (Croxteth-Gyp). 



Donald II. (J. H. Phelan, Jersey City, N. J.), liver and 

 white dog, 3yrs. (Donald — Devonshire Lass). 



Graphic (James L. Anthony, New York), liver and white 

 dog, 4)^yrs. (Sancho— Jtmo). 



Half and Half (Edwai-d Dexter, Boston, Ma8s.), liver and 

 white dog, 20mos. (Priam— Malt). 



DxiKE OF Bergen (F. R. Hitchcock, New Yorkt, liver and 

 white dog, 22mos. (Bang Bang— Fan Pan). 



Tammany (P. R. Hitchcock, Wew York), liver and white dog, 

 3)|'yrs. (Tory— Moonstone). 



Pocahontas (F. R. Hitchcock, New York), lemon and white 

 bitch, 2)^yrs. (Tramp— Grace). 



Spot (Charles Heath, Newark, N. J.), liver and white dog 

 3>^yrs. (Top -Fannie). 



l^ED (Charles Heath, Newai-k, N. J.), lemon and white dog 

 ■dMjTS. (St. Valentine-Beulah). ' 



Mainspring (J. T. Perkins, Brooklyn, N. Y.), liver and white 

 dog, 4yrs. (Mike— Romp). 



Beaufort (Charles H. Mason, Bay Ridge, L, I.), liver and 

 white dog, 6yi-s, (Bow— Beulah). 



Bradford (Charles H. Mason, Bay Ridge, L, I,), livei' and 

 white dog, 6yrs. (Bow— Beulah). 



BRAHMIN VS. SILK. 



Editor Forest and Stream. 



Mr. J. Otis Fellows says he must stand up for his dog. I 

 must, therefore, be allowed to do the same by mine when he 

 is attacked. I don't mind a bit his deci-ying my champion 

 Brahmin among bis friends. That's aU right and natural, I 

 suppose; but when it comes to printing his views in such a 

 representative paper as yours, I must object mast vigorously. 

 He says, "Do not consider me a disappointed exhibitor, for I 

 am not." Of course he's not disappointed. Exhibitors are 

 never disaijpointed when their dogs don't \vin. Oh, no! He 

 says he won the kennel prize at Philadelphia and can do so 

 again any time he likes to try. He forgets to mention that he 

 won it on a walk-over, no other exhibitor having the requisite 

 number of dogs entered to enable them to compete ; so that 

 the victoi-y was rather a barren one and not much to brag 

 about. Talking of walk-overs, would Mr. Fellows be so good 

 as to inform me how many walk-overs his champion Silk has 

 had when he won in the champion classes? Am 1 right when 

 I say I beheve that they were aU walk-overs?— that is, no 

 competition in any one of them. If this is so. Silk's champion 

 prizes are about on a par with the Philadelphia kennel prize he 

 seems so proud of. If Silk won a champion prize when he 

 had a competitor against him I most humbly beg his owner's 



ardon, but I fear I am right in my surmise. At the Phila- 



elphia spring show this year Helen beat Silk for the cham- 

 pion prize, and my Brahmin did the same at the autumn 

 show; so that apparently Silk has been beaten whenever he 

 met a competitor for championship honors. 



Mr. Fellows says among other things that Brahmin Ls cat- 

 sided. That must be a terrible thing! Will somebody please 

 tell me what it means. Pardon my ignorance. He says his 

 Silk is only faulty in coat and head. That is too bad, because 

 a dog's coat and head are about the most noticeable parts of 

 his anatomy. This reminds me of Katisha's remark in the 

 'Mil?9.do" that she knew she wasn't beautiful, she knew her 



face was plahi, but she had a left shoulder blade that was a 

 nuracle of loveliness. Probably Silk's left shoulder blade is 

 also veiy lovely to behold if it were possible to see it through 

 his very curly coat. Mr, FeUows's last remark is as follows: 

 "I raised Brahmin from a puppy imtil he weighed thirty 

 pounds and then I sold him." To' .sell him (was it as a iield 

 spaniel or as a cocker? as friend ''Senex" would ask) was 

 the gi'eatest mistake of his life. If he had kept him he would 

 have had a world beatei*, and saved postage and paper writing 

 to yom- paper running him down! 1 bought Brahmin at the 

 last New York bench show because beseemed a very good 

 dog, having won first in the open class and also beaten Mr. 

 Fellows's champion SUk for the special prize for the best 

 cocker dog in the show and under Mr. Hugh Dalziel's judg- 

 ment too. 



The owner, Mr. J. Luckwell, of Woodstock, Ont., with 

 whom I corresponded, informed me that Brahmin used to be 

 owned by Mr. A. H. Moore, of Philadelphia, who could give 

 me all information regarding him. I wrote to Mr. Mooro, 

 who referred roe to Mr. E. S. Wanmaker, of North Carolina, 

 who had his kennel books. Mr. W. wrote me that Brahmin 

 was bred by Mark Gretton, Hull, Eng. ; imported by Mr. A. H. 

 Moore; born Api-il 15, 18S1; was by Easten's Bob oiit of Clew, 

 etc., etc. If Mr. Fellows raised him from a puppy it is news 

 to me, and I would be glad to have further information on the 

 subject. It seems Brahmin had a lot of masters before he 

 came to me— to stay. Mr. Fellows says he owned him, Mr. 

 Luckwell certainly did, Mr. Schenk, of Bnrlington, la., says 

 he did, I hear Mr. j.F. Elirk also owned him, and Mr. LuckweU 

 tells me Mr. Moore was the original owner. If there are any 

 more I would be glad to know, so that I can tell them that he 

 is in good hands and well cared for. Mr. PeUows must be 

 mistaken about the weight, or Brahmin must have got a great 

 deal sUghter. Othei'wise aU the gentlemen who have won 

 prizes with hnn in the class under 28 pounds must be— well, no 

 gentlemen. Brahmin has averaged about 26 pounds all last 

 summer and T had actualljT to fatten him up a little for the 

 Philadelphia show. 



But enough of this. If Mr. Fellows thinks he has a better 

 dog than mine let them meet at the next W. K. C. bench show 

 (it matters not to me who the judge is), and let each man put 

 up (or the other thing) fifty doUa-i-s a piece, and if SDk wins. 

 Ml-. Fellows can "take the" pot" and I wiU be the "disappointed 

 exhibitor." I herewith inclose my check fgr $25 deposit, and 

 have to ask Mr. Fellows to cover the same within two weeks 

 or forever hold his peace. Arthur E. Rendle. 



[We have returned Mr. Rendle's check, as it is against the 

 rules of the Forest and Stream to serve as stakeholder.] 



BEAGLES AT PHILADELPHIA. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In reply to Mr. Krueger's denying "the assertion of Mr. 

 Schellhass that all the parties who measured Baimerman last 

 spring made him over 13 inches," I beg to say I have never 

 made any such assertion, as it would have been ridiculous on 

 the (ace, as of course I could have no means of knowing how 

 many may have measured him. Quoting fromniemory at the 

 time, I find 1 was mistaken in saying all of the refen-ed to 

 parties made him over 12 inches, etc. , as will be seen from tiie 

 following extract from a newspaper report of last spring's 

 Philadelphia show, namely: "As Mr. Krueger requested a 

 remeasurement of Bannerman we were at some pains to 

 measure him. Of a half-dozen that measured him, two made 

 him just 12 inches and the other four made him over 12 inches. 

 The height of a beagle depends a great deal on how it is 

 measm-ed, and it often happens that the same pei-son will 

 make the same dog of different heights at diiferent times. Mr. 

 Krueger was no doubt conscientious in his measurement that 

 made Bannerman less than 12 inches," etc. As it is very evi- 

 dent from Mr. Krueger's writings that he desires Bannerman 

 to be an "under 12-inch hound." and as I certainly have no 

 desire to prejudice any one against Mr. Ki-ueger or his hound, 

 I wish to follow my above quotation — for the benefit of those 

 who have not read former communications on the subject- 

 that Mr. Kiixeger is equally positive that his hound is under 

 13 inches, and that he has had others measure him who make 

 him the same. 



Mr. Ej'ueger fails to see that this very fact goes to prove 

 the truth of my assertion that there appears to be an unavoid- 

 able variety in measurements, and therefore there should be a 

 sufficient leeway in height .so that no legitimate sized hounds 

 run any risk of being done the greatest possible injustice— 

 bai-red out. Mr. Krueger's statement that he claims Banner- 

 man under 12 inches "Mr. Schellhass to the contrary notwith- 

 standing," is misleading and moreover uncalled for, as he has 

 never known me to make any such claim, as I have never 

 done so. If he is tmder 12 inches, then well and good, as I 

 suppose his owner is then better satisfied. I certainly prefer 

 to nave him so classed as if I ever bred beagles to .show, 

 there would be one less hound for me to compete against. I 

 only want to breed what I consider canable working stock, 

 about as close to the hmit of size as possible, nothing anywhere 

 near as low as 12 Inches. I am thorougWy in accord with 

 the sentiments of one of the committee, who framed the A. E. 

 Beagle Club standard, expressed in a letter written me in 

 which he says, "After trying beagles of all sizes [ am free to 

 say that hounds over 12 inches are the most useful soit and 

 for hunting I would prefer a dog a shade over 15 inches to 

 one imdc r 12, even if the larger dog were ruled out of com- 

 petition at bench shows." In regard to Mr. Krueger's referring 

 to several gentlemen to support his assertion that the judge 

 made Bannerman under 12 inches, I know of no rea.son for 

 doubting Mr. Krueger's word for the same. Moreover the 

 records of the show are evidence of the same. 



In regard to Mr. Knieger's bringing me to task for merely 

 referring to the fact of his having entered Bannerman in the 

 class for "champion beagles over 12 inches," and his claim 

 that I endeavored to convey the impression that by so doing 

 he considered Bannerman over 12 inches, I have onlv to say 

 that Mr. Krueger must know I have written nothing to con- 

 vey any such impres.sion. It is self-evident that by entering 

 Bannerman in the said cla.ss, only one of two constructions 

 can be possible, either he must have considered Bannerman 

 over 12 inches, or he willfully entered him in a class in which 

 he knew he was not eligible; therefore he must excus^ne for 

 mentally placing the former construction on his act— (Iftainly 

 the most charitable one. I fail to see bow there not being a 

 champion class to fit any certain dog warrants an owner in 

 entering said dog in any champion class he sees fit to. 



As the standard of the American Englisli Beagle Club gives 

 no minimum hmit of size, I think Mr. Eji-ueger's suggestion 

 good to have the clause "over 12 inches" struck from the 

 champion class when judged bv said standard, as, until they 

 become far more numerous, the number of beagles under 12 

 inches does not waiTant a separate champion class for them, 

 there being, if I mistake not, at present only one beagle in 

 this country eligible in such a class— namely, Mr. Krueger's 

 Bannerman. 



Mr. Krueger states that when Bannerman was measured as 

 stated, he was improperly measured with sticks. I am in- 

 formed that that was the way my beagle Trailer was meas- 

 ured when judged at the recent Philadelphia show, namelv, 

 with a lead pencil against the side of Ms stall. 



Writing my former letter very hastily, I omitted to state 

 that when my Trailer won first prize at Meriden, Conn., when 

 18 months old, he was not 15 niches high, and when 22 months 

 old and judged at the New Haven show by Mr. John David- 

 son, than whom, every one tells me, there is not a more prac- 

 tical pointer, setter or hound man in the United States, he was 

 not over l.T ruches m height. Mr. Ejnieger remarks that it 

 was "apparent" that my Trailer was over 15 inches. Grant- 

 ing for the sake of argument that my hound was a half inch, 

 or even an inch over limit in si^e, Mv. gyueger well knows 



that neither he nor any other person has a sufficiently critical 

 eye to be able to state as a fact that the hound was oversized. 

 Although measured by several persons on several occasions. 

 Trailer, when measuT-ed with standards , which the members 

 of the committee who framed the standard teU me is the 

 only proper and fair way, has been made by all under 15 

 inches, and the only times when made over 1.5 inches were 

 when measured with what Mr. Krueger states he considers 

 to be improper measurement, and by Mr. Krueger who re- 

 garded it as "apparent," and by those who "judged he was 

 over 15 inches by looking at him"— rather indefinite convic- 

 tions. 



My remarks regarding Bannennan were mere statements of 

 facts which would add proof to my subject, but judging from 

 the tone of Mr. Krueger's letter he has misconstrued my 

 former one, and preferring hU hound to be under 12 inches, 

 regarded my remarks as an attack on his Bannerman, which 

 my letter certainly was neither in spirit nor reality. 



Mr, Krueger's letter goes to prove my assertion regarding 

 the variety in measurements, I cast no reflections on the 

 beagle judge at Philadelphia, Mr. Stovell. As the clock now 

 marks but twelve minutes before our open season of 1885 for 

 rabbits, I will prepare to go out on the morrow at early dawn 

 on a trail where I'm afraid I will have to show a httle more 

 animosity before I follow it to a finish. And as I fuss .around 

 the rooni to get all of my duds ready to take the early mora- 

 ing train down on the Island to a spot where I know the 

 'woods are full" of the little cotton tails, Music and Trailer 

 lie on the middle of the floor fast asleep, and while snoi-tng 

 away dream jio doubt of the many trails they will puzzle out, 

 and how on the morrow they will make the crisp morning 

 air resound with their joyous and melodious notes. May 

 Mr. KiTiegor have as good a time with his Bannerman and 

 other hounds as I hope to have with my Trailer and my others. 

 ■ Trailer dreams. His legs frantically beat the air, his jaws 

 quiver and snap and he presents a tnUy d,angerous ■ appear- 

 ance as he dreams. I know that he is annihilating all who 

 have "judged from looking at him" that he is over 15 inches. 

 He raises his head no. He is now awake, and as his large 

 eyes look up to me so softly and pleadingly, I know he mutely 

 says to me, "I'U forgive them this time, Herm, but let them 

 look out for me in the future." 



The clock strikes 12! The happy day is here after mouths 

 of waiting, to gladden the hearts of thousands of sportsmen. 



Music ! Trailer ! wake up ! Your Christmas of 1885 has come. 



With true love for the httle hounds and fraternal feeling 

 toward all of their owners and admirers I say good night, to 

 dream of rabbit trails and beagle hounds. 



Herman P. Schellhass. 



Brooklyn, N. Y., Nov. 1. 



A DOG DICKER.— I will relate my experience with Hex- 

 tamer M. Perry of the Sans Sonci Kennels. In the American 

 Kennel Register of Augnist, 1884, I entered a litter of collies, 

 by Eclipse, out of my imported Nesta, and a few days later I 

 received a letter fi-om "Courteously Yom-s" asking whether 

 love or money would buy one. I called upon him and said S5() 

 would buy one, but the price was too high for him. During 

 the Si;ate Pair show of the following month I met Perry and 

 he asked after the puppies. In the course of the conversation 

 I said I must try and get some farm to board them at, where- 

 upon he urged me to send them to his farm in the South ; it 

 would cost me nothing, etc., etc. Feeling a delicacy over 

 accepting such a favor from a stranger, I let the matter drop, 

 but it. was revived by him several times after I had consented 

 to let him act as veterinary at the National Breeders' show. 

 A tacit understanding was arrived at that if he took the pup- 

 pies he was to get some return, and matters were brought to a 

 focus by his sending me an urgent note to have the puppies 

 sent on at once. They were telegraphed for and arrived safely 

 at West Philadelphia, whereupon I received a request to register 

 the only dog and one of the bitches as sold to the Sans Souci 

 Kennels. I wrote declining to do so, but saying that if he de- 

 su'ed he might have half an interest in the litter and Nesta, 

 and that I woidd take her to England with me and have her 

 bred again to Eclipse. This 1 oft'ered for $100, a very low- sum, 

 considering the price of Nesta was .$150. This is part of his 

 reply: "As to your proposition (»f yesterday I am unable to 

 accept it. I will do this, however. I have a heavy gold Rail- 

 road, Quick-Time watch , Avhich stands me (with a "chain) S600. 

 I wifi give you this watch for a half interest in Nesta and the 

 five pups and $25 * * * The watch, I think, wDl net you $100 or 

 more; as a personal time piece it is worth $1.50 to $165." I 

 wi-ote accepting the offer, as I had every confidence in his 

 integrity, and I received the watch on a Thursday evening 

 and called to say I had it. It did not look very wonderful, 

 but I presumed its goodness was inside the case. The next 

 day, by daylight I saw it was much worn, and having missed 

 Perry, owing to delay in packing my effects, I took the watch 

 down town and had it valued, the answer being $.35. I had to 

 leave for New York on the three o'clock train, and after 

 working all night there left early next morning by the Alaska 

 for Liverpool. As the puppies were to have been shipped on 

 Friday to the South, nothing could be done till my return. 

 When at Liverpool I called at the address of the maker of the 

 watch and found that the present occupant of the building 

 had been there for over 25 years, hence the watch must have 

 been something hke 80 years old. On my return I had the 

 watch valued at Bailey, Banks & Biddle, and I was told I 

 would be foolish to allow more than .$40 iu trade for it. So 

 tliat on that estimate (as I was presumed to allow $23 

 cash) I was getting $15 exchange for a bitch worth $150, five 

 puppies, and going to the expense of about 1(50 for the second 

 service by Echpse. The day after my arrival I called on Perry 

 and repudiated such a trade. But he insisted on its holding- 

 good, and sent me back the watch, which I later on sent him 

 back for good. So much for the $165 watch. At the first 

 interview after my return, he said he still had all five puppies 

 on his hands; that they had all been sick, etc. I made him 

 an ofEer a few days after to divide the puppies, he to have 

 two. This brought from Mm the admission that one had been 

 sold for .$25, but as it was sick when sent away he expected it 

 would die and he would have to retmn the money. 1 oft'ered, 

 then, to divide the four, giving him second and thu'd choice, 

 but he said he intended keeping them. Subsequently he wrote 

 acknowledging that he had deceived me, and that before my 

 return from England he had also given the dog away. I then 

 said 1 would toss for first choice and let Mm name a give-or- 

 take price for the thu'd. This he also dechned partly on the 

 plea that tossing for first choice was gambhng. 1 then placed 

 the matter before the Philadelphia K. C, of which I heard he 

 was a member. On the night of the club meeting I received 

 the first letter for two months from him. He had been South ; 

 had seen the puppies six weeks before; had ordered one kfiled 

 and would give me my choice of the other two provided I 

 mid expenses of both to Philadelphia. Of this I took no notice. 

 On May 18 he wrote the killed puppy had not been killed, and 

 would accept my offer made five mouths before as to the divi- 

 sion of the three puppies. This I accepted. Being notified of 

 their arrival I went over to settle the business only to find 

 that there were but two, one of the best having died most 

 mysteriously. Mr. Perry was not on hand but he left word he 

 would give or take .$10 for first choice of the two and I gave 

 the money. As to the puppies disposed of, the one sold was 

 not sold for $25, but for $15 and two puppies out of the first 

 litter. He could not even tell me the truth about that one. 

 The dog Comet, which he gave away, he got out stud cards 

 for within a week of the matter being closed and he always 

 declined to tell me to whom he had given the puppy. Others 

 can draw their own conclusions as to the "give away." With 

 all these facts before them, the members of the Philadelphia 

 Kennel Club decided that Hextamer M. Perry was a proper 

 and fit person to be on the club roll. Now Mr, Comfort, the 

 secretary, says the club feels chagrined, but the members 

 have only thernselves to blaftie for what FoRBST AND Stbbam 



