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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Dec. 10, 1885. 



THE LAVERACK PEDIGREES. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In the Century for the pi-ese-it month Mr. Barijft^ says the 

 Laveracks "had also a cross of Gordon from Lord Lovat's ken- 

 nel, to whicli, it has been proved. Mr. Laver ick resorted, not- 

 withstanding repeated assertions that his breed was free from 

 all crosses." Again, he speaks of "those who have investigated 

 ■ the Laverack history without prejadice, and who are not 

 imposed upon by Mr, Laverack's preposterous table of pedi- 

 grees.' 



Some three or four years a;?o j-^ou published a good deal of 

 matter relating to this subject. It was a^out the time of Mr. 

 LlevveUins protest against Comet as winner in a class for 

 ' pui-e Laveracfcs." I suppose you published the substance of 

 all the information on the subject then accessible to the public, 

 ^•nd I wish to inquire whether any other information tending 

 to impeach the Laverack psdigi-ees has since become avail- 

 able. My judgment then was that, so far as appeared in your 

 pages, Mr. Llewellin's j^rotest was not sustained bv the evi- 

 dence; which, nevertheless, showed that Pride of the Border's 

 jiaternity was doubtful, Mr. Laverack having at different 

 times attributed it to both Fred II. and Dash II. 



This, however, was far from proving intentional misrepre- 

 sentation on the part of Mr. Laverack. And neither Mr. 

 Llewellin's charges nor Mr. Burges's language, above quoted, 

 wei-6 consistent with Mr. Laverack's honestv and good faith. 

 Mr. Burges writes very confidently, even contemptuously, on 

 the subject: as if the Liaverack pedigrees were, on their "face. 

 Loo '"preposterous" to deceive any unprejudiced person! 

 Wherein consists the preiwsteroushess? If Mr. Burges does 

 not mean that they are absurd, but only untrue, Uow has their 

 falsity bee u shown? Samttel, Huntington 



Nov, 16, 1885. 



NEW FIELD TRIAL GROUNDS. 



Editor Forest and Stream : 



I wish to present the claims of our town to the Eastern 

 Field Trials Club should they change their groimds ft-om High 

 Point. During my stay at the triaLs I visited thegi'ounds upon 

 which they were run. and I must say they werevery poorand 

 bii-d 8 very scarce. In this county and along the line of the 

 W. N. C. R. R , that can be reached by rail, leaving here in 

 t.he morning and returning in time for supper, game can be 

 found in abundance, and the courteous Superintendent, Capt. 

 V. E. McBee, promises every accommodation to visiting 

 sportsmen and the club npon that road. AMthia twelve mUes 

 of Salisbury there can be leased for the club as many acres of 

 laud as they may wdsh, with an abundance of birds, with a 

 good railroad station and comfortable accommodations for 

 man and beast. The club can leave Salisbury in the morning 

 and return in time for supper. Three tracts of land in close 

 proximity to SaUsbm-y, each containing from 2,000 to .3.000 

 acres of land, well supplied with birds, can also be had, giving 

 the dogs fresh land to run over each day, and the handlers 

 would not be walked down before they could have the pleas- 

 ure of sajang "Point." Should the club consider om- applica- 

 tion on grounds, we ask them to also consider the accommo- 

 dations that a town of our size could give them. "We have 

 two good hotels with ample room, with plenty of private 

 boarding — the Boyden House, a large hotel, and the Mt. Ver- 

 non, with lai-ge capacitj^ and an accommodating landlord, Mr. 

 P. A. Frercks, who obhgates himself, if the tiials wiU come 

 here, to build a handsome and comfortable lot of kennels to 

 make room for all the dogs that may come, the kennels to 

 open on a large grass lot for a place to exercise the dogs. We 

 offer all these advantages, and, besides, promise all the pri- 

 vate shooting that the members and friends may want, and I 

 think we meiit some recognition and I hope for your assist- 

 ance, both in presenting our petition and advocating our 

 claims. We mean what we say, and you can ti-ust us to cai-ry 

 out our part of the programme. C. E. Mills. 



Sahsbcrt, N. C. Dec. 2. 



DOG SHOW REPORTS. 



Editor Forest, and Sir earn: 



Your cojTespondent "Reader" (quotes Mr. Wade as saying 

 that I am one of those not afraid to speak their minds over 

 their own signatiu-es, and then asks me to report Winsted 

 show over my own signature because 1 judge there. I don't 

 see the analogy between the statement and the request. The 

 indiscriminate reporting of shows by judges even over their 

 own signatures would in m}^ opinion he a vei-y decided change 

 for the worse on the part of Fore.st and Stream. On the 

 other hand the makeshift sportsmen's journsils would doubt- 

 less be much benefitted thereby, on' the pilnciple of the 

 traveler who called the waiter at the counta-y hotel and said: 

 "If this is tea bring me coffee, if it's colFee bring me tea, I 

 want a change." For my part I should decidedly object to 

 writing for these journals, and should decline judging in toto 

 if it formed part of the judge's duty. I also have a profes- 

 edonal objection to doing so. I am a member of the fom-th 

 estate and decidedly object to any one taking the bread out of 

 the mouths of my fellow joui-naUsts by furnishing reports 

 free. 



On the other hand, Forest and Stream, as long as it fol- 

 lows out the programme of independence which has raised it 

 to the first rank of our sportsmen's journals, has a very im- 

 port.ant "say" in this matter. As any one can see by the im- 

 pqualled reports of dog sliows which appear in its columns, 

 they are the work of experts, actuated by no desire other 

 than to give a faithfijl and unbiassed opinion upon the judges' 

 awards. The editor of Forest and Stream knows how valu- 

 able such reports have beeji to his paper, and I am sure would 

 be decidedly avei-se to being reduced to the position of having 

 to accept rspoi-ts from pei-sons who in his opinion may not be 

 compatent to write them, to say nothing about being compe- 

 tent to judge. 



If asked by Forest and Stream to write a report of a show 

 at which I judged, I should accept it as a high compliment, 

 and would willingly undertake the duty, but if left to my 

 judgment I shotdd ask that any classes judged by me should 

 be criticised in the usual manner. I have never professed to 

 be an all-round expert and have yet much to learli of many 

 breeds, and 1 should be sony to be deprived of the opportu- 

 nity of reading what qualified critics con.slder to be my mis- 

 takes, so that I may be more paiticular on future occasions 

 when asked to judge at shows which cannot afford the ex- 

 pensive luxury of a complete outfit of specialists. 



JA3IES Watson. 



Philadelphia, Pa.. Dec. 7. 



GAME ABOUT CANTON. 



WE ARE permitted to publish the following extracts from 

 a private letter written by a gentleman well known to 

 all who were present at the Canton Field Trials: 



I have been so busily engaged so far this season that I have 

 not had much time to devote to the most pleasant of field 

 sports, quail shooting. However, I have had two or three 

 dkys good shooting. On the morning of the 17th inst., armed 

 with my new No. 12, 73^-pound hammerless, and accompanied 

 by my taithful old dog Jack (who you wUl remember) and 

 Mr. Coleman with his English setter dog Jim HUl, we took the 

 train at 6 o'clock A. M. and arrived at Calhoun Station on the 

 1. C. R. R. about 8 o'clock. We had sent om- horses to Cal- 

 houn the evening betore with the intention of hunting back 

 to Canton. In a shoit time after arriving at the station we 

 mounted our horses and commenced our day's sport. Birds 

 were not very plentiful m the morning, and up to 1 o'clock we 

 had only bagged twenty. V7e then rested our dogs for au 

 hour, and sitting down by a cool pool of water, refreshed om-- 

 selves with the excellent lunch our wives had prepared. 



four. Our sport from that time until half past five o'clock w as 

 hne. We arrived home at six, poured the birds out on the 

 floor and counted out 89, a pretty good b i-?. Capt. Tom Priest- 

 ley (whom you met here last winter) was out the sama day 

 with his young Gladstone dog, John K. Rsnani, and killed 

 fifty-seven. 



I see a letter from Mr. Stark headed "Light Guns for Trap 

 Shooting." Now, my experience is that it makes but little 

 difference in trap shooting whether vou have a 10 or 13 bore 

 gun I have always used until this season a No. 10, 11-pound 

 Olabrough, full choke gun, and I think as hard a shooter as I 

 ever saw, but this winter I disposed of it and have been shoot- 

 ing the No. 12 Harrington & Richardson for trnp; squirrel and 

 quail shooting. I find the 12 gun shoots as hard, and I believe 

 harder than the 10, and I am sure will do as much execution 

 If properly handled in the field or at the trap as any No. 10 of 

 any make. Last winter while here you wanted to kill a tur- 

 key, but I beheve failed to get one. If you come on this sea- 

 son I assure you you shall have several shots most any day, 

 they are very numerous this winter. K. 



THE NATIONAL FIELD TRIALS. 



ISpecial to Forest and Stream.} 



T_.^,^„ Grand Junction. Tenn., Dee. «. 



HERE were twenty entries in the All- Aged Stake of the 

 National Field Trial Club. The fli-st heat was between 

 Mainspring, winner of the pointer stake of the Eastei-n Field 

 Trials Club this year, and the English setter dog Baden Baden, 

 that ran here three years ago. After an hour the closely 

 contested heat was awarded to Badon Baden. The second 

 heat was between Belle of Piedmont, also a Avinner at the 

 Ea.stern Field Trials this year and the Mes.si-s. Br^-son's well- 

 known Lilhan. The heat was a very close one and was won 

 by BeUe of Piedmont after two and a half hours. The thu-d 

 heat was between Rebel Wind'em, a inmner at the Ea.stern 

 Field Trials last year, and Queen Bess. After nearly an horn- 

 of capital work by Rebel Wind'em and but little by Queen 

 Bess, as she had no chance, the heat was warded to Rebel 

 Wmd'era. The fourth heat was between the well-known 

 Gladstone's Boy and Bob Gates, a half brother of Lady C, 

 winner of second at Canton last year. After a little more than 

 an hour the heat was decided in favor of Bob Gates. 



The next brace, Gus Bondhu and Bessie A., both well 

 known, were run a while and taken up, to go down again in 

 the morning. Lady C. and S^iortsman were the next to run. 

 Both won at the trials held at Canton last year. After two 

 hours of excellent work by both dogs the heat was decided 

 in favor of Lady C. This finished the work for Monday. On 

 Tuesday the weather was about as imsuitable for shooting as 

 could well be, but the rimning was continued. Gus won the 

 heat after a long and exciting contest. 



Gath's Mark, winner at the Eastern Trials this year, and the 

 pointer Richmond, runner up at the Western Trials, were 

 next on the card. Both did very fine work, notwithstanding 

 the race was run in the i-ain. At the end of tlu-ee-quarters of 

 an hour the heat was decided in favor of Gath's Mark. 



American Dan, a well-known field trial performer, and 

 Trinket's Bang, winner at the Western Trials, were next put 

 down. After an hour of good work Trinket's Bang won. 



The last brace was Eoderigo, that ran in the National Derby 

 last year, and the red Irish setter bitch Dora. After over an 

 hour's work the heat was decided in favor of Roderigo. This 

 finished the first series as follows: 

 Baden Baden beat Mainspring. 

 Belle of Piedmont l>eat Lillian. 

 Juno A. beat Count Nutt. 

 Rebel Wind'em beat Queen Bess. 

 Bob Gates beat Gladstone's Boy. 

 Gus Bondhu beat Beasie A. 

 Lady C. beat Sportsman. 

 Gath's Mark beat Richmond. 

 Trinket's Bang beat American Dan. 

 Roderigo beat Dora. 



The fii-st brace in the second seiies, Baden Baden and Belle 

 of Piedmont, were put down, but did not finish their heat, and 

 will go down again in the morning. 



BEAGLE MEASUREMENT.^New Market, Frederick 

 coimty Md Nov. 2^.-Editor Forest and Stream: Havmg 

 been asked through your paper my opinion on the subject of 

 Beagle Measurmg,'* I will briefly give it. To get a beagle's 

 exact height there .should be used a rule with a sliding- bar- 

 say some eight or ten inches long; and the bar .should slide un 

 and down at right angles to the rule. The dog should stand 

 on a perfectly horizontal base, and be very careful to have 

 the rule perpendicular; for if it should lea,n out of plumb to or 

 troiTi the dog- its height would be falsely registered by the 

 sliding bar. The dog should stand in a natural position, not 

 pushed agamst the side of its stall, for naturally the do^ will 

 crouch; and then the judge to put his hand mider its throat 

 and raise it up until he thinks the dog is m a natmal position, 

 it is all guess-work, for a dog fe as apt to be pushed a half -inch 

 too high as it is to be left a half-ineh too low. To use the 

 shdmg rule be careful not to let the dog see it, pat the dog 

 until It IS m a natural position, and then, while patting, place 

 oue hand over its eye next to the measui-ing rule. Be careful 

 to have it perpendicular and not let it touch the dog. Then 

 slide down the bar with the fingers nntU it rests upon the dog's 

 shoulder. Ihen I thmk you will get about its exact height.— 

 Pottinger Dorset. 



BREEDING CONTJNDRUM.-Wilkesbarre, Pa., Nov 

 o"',' -'T?/^'"*^ ^'"^ stream: I have a breeding conundrum 

 tor Mr. Schellhass, as follows: -John Smith is mean, miserly 

 short of stature and a blonde; these characteristics have been 

 pronounced in his ancestors. Sallie Brown is frank, open- 

 hearted, generous, tall and a bninette; these characteristics 

 she too has acquired from ancestors remarkable for their 

 possession of the same good qualities. The two are wedded 

 and have a child. The child is red-headed, short, and, as he 

 grows older, rapidly develops certain characteristics which 

 stamp him among the neighbors as a "chip of the old block ' 

 He "takes after the Smiths.'^ Mathematically he is one-half 

 ' Brown strain," but, actuaUy, how "strong" is he in Brown 

 blood?— F. W. Wheaton. 



PACIFIC COAST FIELD TRIALS. 



THE secretary of the Pacific Field Trials Club, H. C. Brown, 

 sends us the list of entries for the All-Aged Stakes, com- 

 petition for which will take place at the third annual trials, 

 to be held near Olema, Marin county, commencing on Tues- 

 day, Dec. 1.5. The grounds selected are on the ranch of Judge 

 Shatter, and as the bh'ds have been protected for years past 

 from predatory pot-hunters, they are quite numerous. The 

 character of the grounds on which the trials are to be run is 

 said to be very favorable to the successful working of the 

 dogs, and tlie members of the club anticipate an unusuallj'- in- 

 teresting meeting. Owing to the difficulty experienced in 

 finding three gentlemen sufficiently well up in the theory of 

 field work, and also possessing a practical knowledge of ' the 

 rules imder which co'mpetitions ot this kind are held, the club 

 has not yet been able to announce definitely its judges for this 

 year. Last year the judges were Hon. .Joseph' McKenna, of 

 Solano; H. C. Brown, of Sacramento, and Mr. Piatt, of Oak- 

 land. It is more than likely that Hon. D. M. Pjde, of Santa 

 Clara, will be oue of the judges this year. Judge C. N. Post, 

 of this city, is president of the club. The All-Aged entries 

 are: 



BiON, liver and white EngUsh setter dog, 3yrs. , by Regent 

 (Royal Duke— Gift) out of Leavesley's Juno (Belton II.— Belle) ; 

 owned by G. W. Bumiell, Oakland. 



Mountain Boy, lemon and white pointer dog, 2yrs., bv 

 Grouse (champion Rinnie— Juno) out of Nell; owned by W. 

 Schreiber, San Francisco. 



Lassie, lemon and white pointer bitch, 2vrs., by Prime 

 (Trent— Lady Pearl) out of Forest LUy (Duke II,— did Nell) ; 

 owned hy W. Schreiber, San Fi-ancisco. 



Royal Dxjke, black, white and tan English setter dog, 3yrs., 

 by Regent out of DoUy (Carlowatz— Bess) ; owned by J. G. 

 Edwards, Oakland. 



Surf, lemon and white pointer bitch, by champion Bow 

 (Bang— Luna) out of King's Maid (King Philhp— Sleaford's 

 Maid) ; owned by W. S. Kittle, San Francisco. 



Trix, red Irish and Gordon setter dog, 2yrs., by Count 

 Rouge out of Queen ; ovraed by C. L. Ecldon, Polsona. [Trix 

 won the puppy stake in 1884]. 



Janet, black, white and tan Llewelhn setter bitch, 3yrs.. 

 by Count Noble (Count Wind'em— Nora) out of Dashing Novice 

 (Dash II.— Novel) ; owned by California Kennels, Sacramento 

 —Post & Watson. 



Beautiful Queen, Uver and white pointer bitch, by Dilley's 

 Ranger out of Queen; owned by o. M. Bassford, Vacaville. 



Lemmie B., lemon and white pointer dog, 2yi-s., by Pi ince 

 Ranger (Ranger Boy— Jessie) out of Gracie Bow (King Bow— 

 Gracie) ; owned by J. M. Bassford, Jr., Vacaville. 



Solano B., liver and white pointer dog, lyr., by Glen 

 (Ranger Boy— Beautiful Queen) out of Josie Bow (King Bow — 

 Josie) ; owned by Henry A. Bassford, Vacaville. 



The Derby, or Puppy Stake was closed on May 1 last and 

 the entries published at the same time. The number was sev- 

 enteen, but since that date many of the youngsters have gone 

 to the canine happy hunting grounds, while others have been 

 neglected and not educated for their proper sphere in life; 

 hence it is quite likely that the number of Derby stai-ters 

 will be very limited. 



It would be well for persons who desire to attend these 

 field trials tx> send their names to the secretaiy. The fare 

 from San Fj-ancisco to and from Olema will lie SI. -50, and 

 hotel accommodations $1 per day. The trials will last from 



DANDIE DINMONTS.— Chicago, IM.— Editor Forest and 

 Stream: In your issue of Oct. 22 I saw a notice that Mr. Hay 

 had imported a fine young Dandle Dinmont. This I am glad 

 to hear as they are one of the breeds T admire. The gentle- 

 man who sent you the notice declares them the best in 

 America. Good Dandies are scarce in America, but there is a 

 far less number of Dandle judges. I have often thought that 

 I owned a few good Dandies, and am sure none have better 

 breeding, for instance, out of the celebrated old champion 

 Linnett, winner of forty prizes, open and champion, and now 

 with her nine or ten yeare to carry can give them a warm 

 reception. I shall be glad at any tune to meet Mr. Hay for the 

 blue I ibbon, and hope whichever is defeated will take the 

 medicine hke a man, and especially before a competent judge 

 of Dandies.— John H. Naylor. 



THE PHILADELPHIA SnOW.-Editor ForrM and Stream: 

 I entered the Glencoe Collie Kennels' bob-tail sheep do"- at 

 Philadelphia, paid the entry fee, shipped the dog by express, 

 received him on his retm-n, and received the pre"mium. I 

 have the utmost contempt for an attack on any one's veracity 

 when sheltered under a nom de pfumc, but as 1 dislike to seem 

 to evade a charge against rae, I feel I ought to depart from 

 the sound rule of treating anonymous snappers with the con- 

 tempt their lack of courage deserves. However, this is the 

 last time, and the next fellow" who wants to prove that I lie 

 must give his name to secure any notice from me.— W. W ade 

 (Hulton, Pa., Dec. 5). 



DEATH OF CHAMPION BOB.— Mi-. A. H. Moore, of Phila- 

 delphia, has lost, by death, his Gordon setter dog champion 

 Bob. He was whelped in May, 1877, and was by champion 

 Lang and out of champion Floss. His winnings in England are 

 second, Birmingham, 1878; first, Alexandra Palace and first. 

 Birmingham, 1879, andfiret at Brighton, 1880. In this country 

 he won fu'st at St. Louis, 1880; champion at Pittsburgh an^ 

 New York, 1881; champion at Pittsburgh, New York and 

 Cleveland, 1882. He also won several special prizes for 

 the best Gordon setter. He died Nov. ;i5, of fatty degeneration 

 of the fiver and kidneys. 



THE BITLL-TERRIER COUNT. -Mr. P. F. Dole, of New 

 Haven , has received from the kennels of Mr. Fred Hinks, of 

 Birmingham, the well-known buU-teiTier Count. The dog ar- 

 rived in excellent condition, and is a valuable addition to the 

 list of importations. Count is by Marquis, sire of The Earl, 

 out of Kitt, by Prince. Marquis by cham pion Tarquin out of 

 Puss. His fist of prizes include the following at first-class 

 shows : Second, Aston, 188H ; first, Birmingham ; fii-st and cup, 

 Exeter; first, Buxton; first. Crystal Palace: first, West Brom- 

 wich, and tii-st, Bangor, 1884. 



Mounting our horses once more we began the evening's sport, three to five days. Members of the club and visiting sports- 

 In a short time Jack came to a stand, and on the lise we killed ' men will leave on the 11:30 A. M- boat on Monday, Dec. 14. 



THE IRISH SETTER SPECIAL.— Thomasville, N. C, Dec. 

 1, 1885.— Eddor Forest and Stream : Messrs. Dormer, Hitchcock 

 and Coster, judges at the Eastern Field Trials, requested by 

 me to decide which of the Irish setters shown were entitled to 

 the Iiish setter special of *.30 given by Mr. Wm. Dunphy, of 

 PeekskiU, N. Y. . and Dr. Wm. Jarvis, of Claremont, N, H., 

 awarded it equally to Elcho, Jr., Blarney, Glenclaire and Rose 

 ot KUlarney. I donated the share of Rose of KiUamey toward 

 an li-i-sh setter special for 1886.— Luke W. White, Secretary 

 Irish Setter Club. 



A POX HUNT.— The followers of hounds in South New 

 Jersey propose having a grand fox hunt in the vicinity of 

 Absecom shortly. Four red foxes have been secured and wdll 

 be set loose on the grounds of the Agricultural Society, near 

 that place. After reynard has been given an hour's start 

 seventy-five hounds will be put on his trail. Almost every- 

 body that can secm'e any sort of a mount round about Atlantic 

 City will attend. It is hoped the foxes will run, trapped foxes 

 generally fag soon.— Homo. 



MR. FRED W. ROTHERA has returned to England, his 

 native place, and will resume his practice of the law at his old 

 office in Nottingham. Mr. Rothera hds been a successful ex- 

 hibitor of dogs in this country the past few yeai-s, and leaves 

 a host of friends. His dogs will remam here except the St. 

 Bernard bitch Daphne, and the colhe bitch Lassie, that he 

 will take home with him. 



WEST CHESTER HUNT.— There is more fox hunting done 

 around West Chester, Pa., in the course ijf a season than in 

 ail the other counties of the State combined, and it is policy 

 to keep on the right side of the farmers of that neighborhood, 

 for one chase in soft weather when the fields are in bad con- 

 dition does more damage than a hundred hunts when the 

 ground is frozen and dry.— Homo. 



REPORTED DEATH OF SUE.— A dispatch to the New 

 York Herald reports the death of the celebrated English set- 

 ter bitch Sue, owned by Messrs. P. H. and D. Bryson, of 

 Memphis, Tenn. Sue is a weU-fcnown field trial wiimer, and 

 was the dam of Gladstone's Boy, Sportsman and Lifiian, also 

 field trial winners. 



A LEGAL OPINION.— Office of Thompson & Son, attor- 

 neys-at-law. No. 28 North Main St., Butler, Pa., Nov. 30, 188.5. 

 — Editor Forest and Stream: "Training vs. Breaking," by 

 pammond, received, and there is no question but that it is the 

 best dog-training book putaUshed. Yom-s, W. C. Thompson. 



