Nov. 4, 198C.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



293 



Gmplvie {A.K.B. 

 w hlte and tielced p 

 Hai-vis, Portlfiiid, 1\J 

 Ar()us Jl.—Jr.-ysica 



].K.B. 13BS) Wliclp. Bind: rinrt 

 ^cluert June 10, ' ■ 

 ' ,o\ i-n, MidcIlcljOT-' ! 

 ii and tan Gordt 



wbelped Aug. 21, 1880, by Geo. K. Brown, DerllnurJ, Masa., ona^^ch 

 to .S. Emery, SomQrvillc, Mass.. and A. n. Aldnoli, Moli'osc, 



■■ 'D-Virainta {AJC.B. 1SS7) whdps. Lemon and 



j lied May 27. IStiti by C. W, LitUejnIiu, Lees- 

 1 ..AVis A. Kldridge, JBroolslyn, N.r., and abitch 



^"iiou-iriom whelm' B'kick, white and ticked Englisli setters, 

 wlielpod March 3. IPSfi, by H. J. Pierre, >Vuiste(l, Oonii,, a dog to 

 'I'lioa. v. Bill, ISIidrtletown, Conn., and a intch to 'I. H. Armstrong-, 



''^8)im1'/'\?h^.Z?, a0S5)—]iI'cme tohdp. Black cooker spanielbitcTi, 

 VN-holped Se[)t. 1*, 1886, byG-. F. A^lilard, Cliarlestown, Mass.. to C. 

 E. Gi lchris:, same place. 



Address all mm'fm0iie<MQns to the Forest and Sbrcam Fui). Co. 



RANGE AND GALLERY. 



THE MASSACHUSETTS TEAM. 



BCtK'rON, Oct. 2«.-Tha presentation to-day ol tlu^ pnatrt \nai at 

 tlio recent CrooMlitioor meet by tUo MassuohuMell ti tciim w.ia 

 nv\,dv Ibo oi-'.'.-.sioii os a l oval.ilc LratJiernig at liie hi.'veie lloiihi; to- 

 day TI'.' Bo' iiif }Irrnid in l eirorting the ceremony at present- 

 alion very fiL'.inglj' Kaid: ■ . i 



■'Tiu.^ i • ,-,r i li'-^ S^t ilo's iL'amal the I'fif-eni ront.'yi* participated 

 r fi,,. 1k-s*, shf.i^-"- -ii'^i- ' ' . Vnrk, 

 , 1 !y,r.'ii. <.(■ I I : tin: 



,1 , , . .;l;a.r ju-: .■Hi' 



si 11 



national (lefens' 



ior tlie pi 



thi- 



I 



loi'i?e, uiiuotieed on 

 sviind buhvark of 

 ivjiliiaf.. arm is found 



of pi 



Sth: 



iti^ 



I fore 



of the pufpo.=e of tlic miliiia i 

 ready at a iiionienl'8 notice, to .siippDi't the _ ... 

 emi.-VL'i'iiL-v; and tliojda.ii o1 its orf,';ini/.atjoTi conteini.ilaf.es tUcrough 



nt 



in Ml ri 



but : 



pre.'-' 

 in s:>_ 



i'\ thing n 

 5 not until 1S80 t'uU ox 

 ,11 iiitegral part of t'tiit 

 ■ no^^ .;-xeo.;-ds lOT. 'PI 



ti 



10 



iiiali 

 .dfort wa 

 uty. Ttu 

 is noarl 



iiid mm of tiic iii'"' 



. iss^ in tl 

 e story of tl: 

 id J8"«. The first tv 

 ifnte autiiovity. Th 



i iiiaao ffi in;; 

 iiunibei' of ma 

 iTi.-tliird of tl 

 Rtrikiiii^ e .i.t 

 5c;ope of th,:; • 

 four !• ' 



oliiicr 



rlvsiiien 

 le elTeo- 



tlic rajii'l -;.:-._■!- :-o\-v,r :M;d i' 

 rillf. -V -M ' ■ . i-i tfi 



Greed 1. -;ii 

 Raid tw . . I ■,'r i 



\l. V 



m the form of a rorjucat for pfi'i ' i 

 (inbotJi years) comiii,;; from one 



the oi'dinary old paf icrii of St'I"! - i .ii 



pelc with the Sharps' and other patten i.-r i'st:i In ics 

 States. Tin; men had hui limih-d pritrtii'e, and their 

 tar from \riijninK. tliouii;h uredi Lal.>h.- under ilio ciri-uin 

 fur tlie lirst ti-ia1, in eoiiijietition with iA'i 



I or 



of I 



bp.Hi- markr-:mcn, de\ elopod undet- the progressive system adoiU. 

 two 'I'lirs iiveviorisiy, a team was selected and sent, under Htat 

 to Creednioor, and the riia.iorily 



aufla 

 ut^ ll,i 



ihi 



but a^. ; . 

 matri 

 (h 1 



The ;ir: : 

 the Slate aint 



Lieiiteiiant 

 of til- Nation: 

 file NaiLonal 



■ othi 



aehic'i 

 rcHuL-ir 

 made 1 



.Sleel. But if yoi 

 in the future a; 

 that this victor 

 work, and it ^^t^f 

 d 1 e t m 1 1 1 a 1 1 o u , a f 



age of llie winniii 



4 team>. This 



I'lfld from i:dioiir 



;fl caiulidaies 



iiei ,.,iilv against i 



he three State 



i ■:';mis of tlie 



logular ;irur\'. 



-i t)ie eomnct 



iug teams ipt. 



York.hn;;! p. 



■iii!s\lvaida„!iy'; 





-.vns before the 



a,i:i : v guard. 



■']}■•- , il;-rv ih S \. 



i'-i- . , ■ Griloael Ror 



.'ill, ., 



it affords lua 



e:i-::Oii-. the iti] 



; on iJriae and 



-uii.ui.' v-on hv y 



ji.ir te'.iui from 



ail.lt I ..iil,:'l-lK^ll 



. In \viniiin;- 



rie.- 1 ■ 1 1 i : 



liad j.-i , .1.. .. 



ronipetiTora. 

 irifin.-u-i- faedi 



the team shot well 

 year another tc;im 

 .nd it achieved a 



lei: 

 111 ti 



:welh . 

 great 



mpetimr, 



LlH 



you 



, and the. seoivp 

 in- ■:•..!:■ \v yoiiv focmen were worlliy of your 

 .... _ _j hetp 1 l.ese ti-ophi.es you will ha\e to ^voric 

 hard as in tiic uasti. Tlie general results show 

 was not a matter of chauee. but showed hard 

 .o vour credit tha.t you refinied to Ihe tiffin v. U \\ 

 tei- yon had before been defe;U-;l. ' ----inr 

 himself has had medals prepared for yotirowai iiui ' 

 Many of your members won prizes in the indlvid.ial i-..r- ••••• . mil 

 Vi 'i vaie Bull of the Second Regimeid; won the militai y c!!:!.'!!: imi- 

 " 1 States. As an eserutivo otticer it atf. 



, the maul;; beaiaii.K of 

 nd the raising of small questn./ss 



nt..- 



ship of the Unitt 

 pleasure to adver 

 petty fa-ilt-fiitdiug . 



lorget one protest made by one of y our 

 lowered his ov.'u score. That vas \'or.\- inucn to his ere 

 is not n, customai \' thing to do. It is a oleasute t;i se 



work you have done, v,'bicli I know is duly 



all i bori i ies. This is shown by tlie iiri.'Seiiee M' ■ " r : :i 

 your eommaatding ohieei'S. Those who have i ' > ■ i 

 i-ifie practice know how much pcreon.-il saerince a i U'is 

 ti'ust the authorities will recognize 11 



; the la 



a n no 



er\ 



eri: 



anc 

 (,lii 



.■i;i: i '1 by the 

 i-::i' - rnora.nd 

 1 " e 'licuce in 

 lerifiee ai !>'i!its it, and I 

 you are rendering good 

 ts in our country y\e rely on the volunteer .service for our 

 and the knoivledge of tlie use of small arms is of import- 

 Every eiieourageihent show Id ho offered you to keep on in 



. ay. One ina.ltei' 1 

 ■niisiiing ina.toh only one team . 



all attoiition to. In the 

 . , . . ■ tlie national gi:aril entered 



into coiupetitiou witli the regular army. As indlN ideals, it was 

 prov ed tha t tlie one arm was equn 1 to the other, liut tlie national 

 guard has not had practice in skirmishing at unknow n distances, 

 and in this waf. the difference. Slcirmisli fire represents more 

 closely the actual conditions of service, and 1 hope you may im- 

 prove in this, and ; hat you. will be able to make a good showing 

 with tlie I'egubir aiany' Judging (iistance drill, freely practiced, 

 will bring you sueees.s. [Loud applause.] 



Colonel Kociiwetl, of the Go-, ernoi-'s si aiT, addj'essing his reply 

 to Lieutenant Zalmski, spoke as follcovs; It atrard.s me great 



' . ^ . ■ . " .' is me to receive from 



gives me great sati,5faetion jiersonally as it 

 Creeiimoor, that tlie 

 iner witit 



pleasure to stand in che position whiel 

 you tliese tropli'es. It gives me great 

 iimst to et ery member of the team [U'l 

 association has ex I ended its courtesy to send 

 tliese trophies, and more especially tliat it sic 



pd 



lice 



I iicv'cr 

 one, and f 

 to all. As 

 bur 1 kncv 

 faistcntiy t 

 to do be. 

 were preti 

 you base . 

 in turning ovc 



1 for this purpose. In my sove 



eugli 



,\'eek. UK 



many or 



•,ve did nor. foi^ 

 I'd up after the 

 t will be for cth 

 3se troplnes to 

 favts of the last Ji- 



aiii 



mih.tia 

 eicto 



the to 



The thing we 



who I 

 e-edmoor 



lIiir hast 

 and kind 

 > entei-ial, 



yiiu l.el- 



ILut V.Cll 



lar atirny 

 jciafe all 

 1 Dalton, 



refer fn 

 Willi ilic 

 ie 1 I 



all iuke gTea.fes 

 ypical of the advance of this very import 

 'uiliiia instructiQU. 



Dalton in response, said: Colonel Rockwell and 

 ' years of j-oy ;) d.iul ant-generalship tiiere 

 "^iii;i ':l : ,-:':-iii : :t ' :1 witJi you; but when I 

 . ... i" i-lng these trophies, it 



:. ";;. . : you lho\voiky'Ou ha.ve 



. ' ai li. .i.dan;, L iCi - . When the v iciorics 

 vitfi J.ij. excc-llcno-\ . who hm alway been 

 ■i; militia. He thought that it would be 

 inizing the event to pre.seut each member 

 al from the Stale, and that he ought to be 



pre 



Go verii o r R ob i n s i i n , 

 pi'cvious .speakers, and r 

 eeptance of these iro!ihi< 

 another wajrd A'oiir 

 finlRi:Le:h and:\y'-a,i luia: 



1 tiiey slu.ntld be a\^-arde 



lande 



iithi-; 



( 10 1 le 



■ I I" ,11 ; i)!id ac- 

 , 1 ! ■ : ^v itlioui; 

 ■ ,a II ,' yeroiobo 

 spectator 

 ■ _ust come 

 : you her 

 a a: 1 .1 1 : .,ely for 



el-v;dfa, .lOidsolong 



sueb an .abundant 



or diisr 

 from me a: 

 he lilting cot.:.: 

 her niibtary esiai 

 she will eontiiiut 

 equivalent. 



At I !wi close of the Governor's rt.'inarks, the gedd b.'idges gii en by 

 li ud liiC bi.i 1/e I adf.,' ^ (,i\en o\ lIic u ttioii d )^ 



u 1 1 1 ted to tne mcmbci-- of t!ic team. A luu hi (u I 



.AmouL- tue nnhtarv gentiemeu present were G-eji Pcaoo. lieu. 

 Wales, Gen. Netrtleton, Gen. Holtj Col. Wellington, Col. Osgopd, 

 Orth atraohan, Ool. Bridges. OoL Greene, Col- Bancroft, Lietit-Ool. 



.Mdiott and Adjtl Xelson. At the close of the reception the 

 members o£ the team visited tJio Mollis Street Theatre. 



THOIVIASTON, Conn., Oct, 23. -Weather conditions good: 



F.Thomas .,. 8 10 T 9 9 9 8 8 



G A hemrnon 9 8 4 10 7 10 8 7 6 7-76 



\\ llliams 



F A. Pcrkiua 



II Oanfield 



.■.■.'..4 69789676 7—69 

 8958555 10 8 6—69 

 8 6 7 6 7 5 10 4 G-G4 



BOSTON, Oct. Sv.— The regular matches were continued at the 

 Walnut lliU range to day. Even a bad stoi'm will not keep the 

 rillemen from this favorite resnrt, and severtd hunted bulfoeyeB 

 during the blinding stonn. and imt up the folio wuig ecoros: 

 'Kest Match. 



N Waehhurn V 10 10 10 9 10 1.0 10 10 10 9-98 



XM vvcifciiuuin ... F 10 10 9 8 10 10 9 10 10 9-95 



J B Miraroe F 10 10 10 9 10 10 10 10 9 10-98 



.J J5 ivuraioe 10 8 10 9 10 -97 



W Henry A 10 9 10 9 10 10 9 9 10 10-96 



Decimal OJT-hand Match. 



WHenrv . C 4 10 9 9 8 8 8 5 6 10-77 



^ D678698686 10-77 



..D 9 8 6 7 10 6 8 8 4 7-74 

 056 10 8 6 6994 4-74 



..li 768857778 9-72 



atate Mllitia Match. 



HO Webber. 



T OUref 



C t> L-srford. . 



Lieut Mindei' 



Durimt I he 

 silver badges 



ek Lieui.. Sanders 

 he Mate militia 



.;s a? 21 80 19 



22 22 31 21 .. 



.21 21 21 21 20 



ar.d (;. 1.). Lytord have won 





iPKANS. Get. 



roniesi iH'l 



ween tile Eicke 



place at th 



■ latiei-'s range 



jiossible G.a, 

 1 



inbil passible S; 



lic ke Club. 



M Hube]-. . 



. . . Si-.i (10 till 63 f 



1; Powers. 



.. ..40 r-T 111 53 



'i. -Tlie ioIJowiiig iH the result of the 

 and the Hunter liille < liics', wduch took 

 tu-day. Ihstanee aOyds.. buU.seye »ni.. 



Hunter Club. 

 311 I AhrMi , I (II 80 



..aO 58 51 

 4U 51 57 



'-;;(;« OSchindler.. 



. Guiiloite, 5f I,:: at 59 (d- 280 C Ahrens 



T Kro'-kett til (;:.' .a.s ,51 50— ::,S4 ,jos Smith 



II ( III I < (Ml - " C tpt t ollon 



i;j-2f,7 



51-2.58 



i 



50-268 



GiJl0>d..ll ..^ dO 1 1 19- tl LHitkeit j j ii >! 1—262 



1671 1610 

 Judge. J. Kenny, Jr. fecorerK, \N illiani Skmner and J. T. 



( si \-. G\TTEK\— The tolb v -ton \ i n io at 

 f'onlin s thallerv. Thirty-hrst street and Broadway, f>. \. The 

 two matclies have just been completed after very close contests, 

 an.d were areailv en joved bv all who participated, as well aahy 

 the soeetators. 'flie p,ri:.'es v.ere unirtue and elegant and the 

 I i-.-eu-airj a.r shi- 's I'l vyi! liicm \.-cv:2 SO clobc that a three cent 

 -I- ra,.; ,. ;a, i i , ■ utM i (di ^yil^be (aanibined with va,ri- 



• . • •■■ Molding .•uirt tarKclH, »nd the public 



; r: . ..... |i i ;.. .e.i.iO compete for the attractive pri/.cs. 



■I'bi a: .i-iiug the foklowing scores Avere: o6ft., any 



I I'diPAid, (,arKeis, reduced standard decimal, lin. 



bi'.P- I I a and Conlm's 10 bttllseve measurement match 



targ.... :a ■■h.,\..: Result of 10 bulkseye match: 



Inclicrt. Inches. 



II ^1 a ( ]( \S [1 ( 1 n ill il3 16 



I I t; i lofiinan . . : 2 11-12 1) Crocker 3 15-16 



,1 ,r ,\Iniiroe 212-16 T B Doolittle 4 



(1 Sinari Seoi:l 218-1(1 K Vvelserbe 5 2-16 



Ur T C Aloller 3 11-16 U S Young 5 5-16 



Result of st.andard decimal target match, possible 70: 



A!a\ oard Bixby 'tO J J Muiiroc 66 



C C <Tr-nseh. .Jr" 69 E E Tiffany 65 



T B Dcolitlie 'Ht Geo E Betts 64 



Jos H Wheclock 67 G A Stevens 63 



!) CAoeker 66 August Magale 61 



N Jl' Brisiie 66 T T Cartwrigdit 60 



I'eter DeMy.se ti» I'rauk II Smith 58 



THE TRAP. 



yeo;..,-: a-.., j: /J .5f (' sof ki /i sJiovid be VMdc out Hit Uu: ijrinl::ii Warilis 

 ptfpoirii hil'thc F'uxsi. and ,-:-lrcaiii, and ftvrnwhcd oralis to chih 

 Nccriiovirs. Cvrnfinindents irlii) fai'or ■un with club scorcH arc jiar- 

 Hcidarlij ixqucdrd to iLTite on one sidf. of the paper imly. 



A! Hit>;s. I'a.. Oct,- L'l.— I'lVii memberw of the Atliens Gun Club 

 nicl fur 1 !u ir we<;kiv slioot yesterdav .and contested for the gold 

 (ladgc. Following is the score: 



1 W lu i lllllinil-10 f \, istioag iioniiHi- 9 



V iihtUer inillim-10 N Knaresboro lllOlllOlJ-8 



A D Smith Illtinill-lO 



In shooting olt tics F. Fuller won the badge.— P. 

 1 \ I I ^ O t -Nua,ii I ! ti Shooting Club —9 

 iJiagara Falls bhukbirdF: 



Jeweti lOmulii'— Clarke. . . 



EH Sunt!) liminO-8 Shadcr... 



Howard OllOtilCOO-3 De Wolf. 



■: iiiise.a 111101)101-6 Jenno, Jr 



.hainr arid Clarke diviued second, 

 ir 6 hlucT'ocks; 



ni 1101 n. 1-7 

 111001110-6 



nuiuGOi-i 



OCll II 111-7 



Smith 



111110-5 



■Snader. . 



Jonne, Jr.. 



Ho'ward 



101011-4 



011011-4 



De \\ olt 

 Jones 



Ltolison 



iounio-2 



.Jewett... 



Clarke 



lUlOUl -3 



llopkin.. 



Smith and .lev^ 



At divided lirst. 



IMatch at 6 bats 



tl 1 In iw i\ 





Smith 



011111-5) 



Shadcr. . 



.ienne. Jr 



iniio-5 



Jones 



Ho\\ ard 



110001-3 



Hobson . . 



1 \\ oh 



010101-.S 



Jewett. . . 



Chirke 



011110-4 



I-Iopkin. . 



First and third divided. 

 Al If h I 1 •* bl ( locks 



■ 00010-2 

 .101011-4 



H0001-' 



..111101-5 

 ..COOOOl-1 



111(11-) 



111011-) 

 KiOdOl -> 

 . .111101-5 

 . .100110-8 



.111010110110- 8 .Howard. .. 



..hlOlOlOfXIlOl — 4 Jewett. . . . 



..fjOOOOllOOllO— 4 Jenne. Jr. 

 .110111001001- 7 



.111111111111—12 Howard... 



.011111110111-10 .lewett 



.011111010101- 8 Jennc. Jr.. 



.111010110101— 8 



..111010101111- 9 

 .111001111111-10 

 ..011101111110— 9 



..imioiiiiii-11 



..011110011110— 8 

 ..0110001 now— w 



Smith.. 

 Shadcr. . 



.Tones 



Clarke.. 

 Seeoiid 

 i\latch 

 Smith. . . 

 Suader. . 

 .tones.... 



lAarke - 



J•;,\^ hMii'.la. Long Island. Oct. 2i).— Mr. James Dean of this 

 town ha^' phieed in tlie hands of the secretary of the Bay Ridge 

 Can (Tub a uadd medal to re'orosent the championship of Kings 

 eountv, ojion to all re.sideios of the said county. The match yvill 

 bo shdr a! 10 o'ele.-k A. M. Kliarp- Thanks.giving Day, at Bay Ridge, 

 Bay Biidge Gnn Club rnks, ropy of which will be sent to all con- 

 testants. All desiruii.' to shoot for this medal are required to send 

 address before Nov. :S5; on that date entries close. Shooters will 

 be ealletJ to the ner>re in the oraer m \\du<d:i their applications for 

 entrance are reeoi-.ed; 50 elav-pigeons per man, 21yd9. rise. Straps. 

 - K. I). Wakkman (See, Bay Ridge Gun Club). 



THE ]NTEB>y-\T10NAL CnA.!..LEXGE.— Cincinnati, Oct. 29.— 

 Editor / id T.-t and Ulrcaiii: Col. L. C. Bruce, of New York city, in 

 acceptiiig the onerous task of being appointed a committee of one 

 lo select iiie American teamtor Lbo lulcrnational challenge match 

 (111 \ u fil'> ( cjitance) a\s ndei d lit oi Or t > I wish 

 lO say ' * * I -will do a1I in my power to bring about the contest 

 regardlcs.s of the position 1 may hold on the team. * -t * If 

 dcamod best by the National Oun Association, or by a vote of the 

 icam, some other than myself is chosen (as captain of the team), 

 1 will vfU'v cherrfullv stej) aside. 1 sav this * * m order that 

 you raav nnrlcrstand and con act. in anv manner .so as most suc- 

 cesstuliy carrv out the movement. ^" The match will uc most 

 popular witiha.b classes."— .1. Isloom. 



HULL Y- C— A meeting of the Hull Y. 0. was held on Oct. 27, 

 with Tice-Com. Tower in the chair. The committee on a new 

 club housa e.sked for more time. The question of dues was taken 

 un and a reduction was made from iflO per year to $5, the old fig- 

 ure. The regatta comiriittee was reduced to 5 and the member- 

 ship committee to 9 members, the fomier also including the com- 

 modore and vice-commodore. A snpper committee was appointed 

 consisting of IWessrs. Harry Hutcirinson, Galston ^^Tiittemore and 

 J. AA^ Wheeler. Messrs. J. B. Forsaith, Harry Hutchinson, J. R. 

 Chadwiek, Ik k. M. Tower and Fred Pope were appointed repre- 

 sentatives to the >.ev.' iijugland \ . R. A. i^Lt'ter the meeting the 

 dub procecaod to the. winter imarters of the Great Head Y. 0., at 

 No. 8 Boa worth street, where they -were entertained by the olub. 



THE CLYDE CHALLENGE. 



THE letter of the Royal Clyde Y. C. which has been so carefully 

 guarded by the New Y'ork Y. C. for a month past was made 

 public at the meeting of the Club on Oct. 28 and, as was expected, 

 contained nothing to justify the secrecy maintained in regard to 

 it, reading as follows: 



RtyvAL Clyde Y. C, SkOBEtaht's Ofi?ice, I 

 Glasoow, Sept. 21, 1886. f 

 John H. Bird, Secretary New yorh Y. G, ]\'i:w Yorlt: 



Sir— In confirmation of my cable of to-day, I nmv, as secretary, 

 and as authorized by the Royal Clyde Y C, formally challenge 

 your club for the piossessiuu of the Americans Cup m the name 

 of Mr. James Bell, a member and. lately Itear Commodore of this 

 club. 



The challenger inleTuls building a yacht for the raee, and 1 am 

 nnable at present to give length or tonnage. Should your club 

 decide to race Mayflower the challenger is prepared to build a 

 yacht of about her .size. If, however, you determine to build a 

 new vessel it might be as satisfactory and less costly were smaller 

 vessels built— s.ay from 65 to 75ft. long. In any case it would be 

 well that the competiug yachts be about (lie same length, so as to 

 make the trial as much as possible a test of model. 



The only other suggestion the cUallenger desires to make .at 

 present is that, in order to eliminate as far as maybe the elements 

 of cluuiee, the contest should be decided by the best of five trials. 



I do not, ill tlie niea nt ime, n.ame any day or days for the proposed 

 race, as Mr. Geo. L. Schuyler's letter of Jan. 1, 1882, provides that 

 the day named shall not he later than seven months from the date 

 of the "notice; but it is proposed that the race should take place 

 next September, and due notice of not less than six months and 

 net more than seven months will be sent in conformity with the 

 conditions in Air. Schuyler's letter. 



.Vwaiting the favor of an earlyreply, I have the honor to remain, 

 ir, yours faithfully, AYilTjIAM Y'OHK, Secretary. 



The following answer was sent by tlie New York Y. C: 



New Y(jrk Y. c., Siiichetahy'h Oj^fice. i 

 New Yduk. Oct. 4, l>-86. f 

 Wniiam York, Em., Srcretani Eoyol Chjdr y. C.: 



Sir— I lui\'e the houoi- of aoknovtledgiiig [lie tcceipl. of your 

 cablegram of Sept. 21. of an extract from the minutes of the Royal 

 Clyde A'. (A of like date, and of your letter of same, purportiug to 

 be'a. (dial! a nge for file possession of the America's (.up. In com- 

 pliance with vour request for early action thereon, 1 have the 

 further lienor of informing yon that the several documents above 

 referred to v.-ill be laid before the New Y'ork C. at its next regu- 

 lar meeting, to be held on the 28th inst. 



Very truly yours, Jo.tin H. Bird, Secretary. 



To this letter the secretary of the Royid Clyde Y'. O. responded 

 IS follows: 



Royaij Clyde Y. C, SEORETAtiY'g Oeeice, I 

 Glasgow, Oct. 15, 1836. i" 

 SiH — ! have to thank you for your letter of 4th in.st., informing 

 me that Ihe document relating to Mr. t-ielTs challenge would be 

 laid bc.d'orc the next regular meeting of your clnb on the 28th inst. 

 In view of this meeting and of ronfoying any pcssii.'le informality 

 n the, challenge, I would a.ak you to be good enough to scud me an 

 atithentic copy of the whole conditions regulating the challenge, 

 with any ftrrther explanation that may lie necessary to enable me 

 to put the challenge (if it is not so .already) in such a form as your 

 clnb can accept siinpticilcr. 



Be so good as to lay this letter before your club meeting on the 

 '3th inst., along vv'itli the letter and documents already sent. 



Yours, very truly, Williaji Y'Obk, Secretary, 



John H. Bikd, Esq. 



The entire matter was very summarily disposed of at the meet- 

 ing by the unanimous adoption of the following resolution offered 

 by Mr. John R. Piatt: 



Resolved, That the secretary forward the Royal Clyde Y. C. the 

 documents asked for and the full terras regarding the challenge 

 for the America's Cup, at the same time stating that the commu- 

 nications already recei\ ed from the said Royal Clyde Y. C. can- 

 not, under the deed of gift, be considered as a sufftcient challenge. 

 When said challenge comes in proper form it will receive duecon- 

 iideration. 



fn acting in this manner the NewA'ork Y. C. has ignored en- 

 tirelv the letter and spirit of a bona fide and sportsmanlike chal- 

 lenge and has fallen back on a, literal interoretation of the deed of 



;itt that is not at all in accordance with the dignity of their 

 position as holders of tlie Cup. The point of view from which they 

 evidently regard the matter is well set fortfi in the following edit- 

 orial from the New Y'ork Herald, which ^ve quote, not from any 



ipecial importance that attaches to it, but because it voices opin- 

 ions which are held by a certain part of the New York Y. C. and 

 which have been expressed more or less prominently for some 

 time past: 



"The New A'ork Y^ C. has considered the 'challenge' -ivhiclt the 

 Royal Clyde Y". C, in behalf of Mr. James Bell, forwarded last 

 month, and has returned the only answer possible under the cir- 

 cumstances. Mr. Bell, it seems, wishes to impose conditions upon 

 the New York Y. C. wdiich, according to the terms upori which the 

 America's Cup is held, cannot be conceded. It ought not to be 

 forgotten that the schooner yacht America sailed over to England 

 m 1851 and defeated the fastest schooners and cutters embodying 

 the pick of the British yachting fleet, and this, too, in the face of 

 extreme odds and with no allowance of time for tonnage. 



"Mr. Bell, howev^er, would like to know in advance the type of 

 boat which shall be chosen to sail against his yacht, \^ hich is yet 

 in embryo. It is, of course, a matter of regret to the Ne^v Y^ork 

 Y. C. that the present formalities which hedge about ihe Amer- 

 ica's Cup challenge cannot bo dispensed with. The New York 

 5f . C. is a patriotic body, and it has already expemled a vast sum 

 of money in defending the Cup against several yaclvts wdiich were 

 neither fast nor representative. But while the cltib has been 

 always ready to entertain each and every challenge from any 

 recognized club, it is now the opinion of the leading yaciitsmen of 

 this country that no foreign squadron ought to challenge except 

 with a boat well qualitied from its past performance to at any 

 rate nuike good running for the Cup. 



"The challenge is open to the v\'orld. It embraces any ehgible 

 yacht measuring from thirty to three hundred tons, and it is 

 not asking too much that the dimensions of the challenging 

 boat should he made known to the Nev\' York Y. C. Air. Bell is a 

 .sportsman and belongs to a club of sportsmen, but when all the 

 facts of the case are taken into consideration it will be granted 

 that he asks too much, and that tlte New York Y^. C. is perfectly 

 iustifled in declining a 'challenge' which is based upon so slight a 

 foundation. When Mr. Bell really means business tl e New York 

 Y. C. will be ready to meet him." 



A sufficient answer to such misstatements is found in the origi- 

 nal letter given above, the case actually being, as there clearly ex- 

 pressed, that certain yachtsmen wish to challenge for the Cup and 

 are willing to invest a considerable sum in building a suitable 

 yacht. Before doing so they ask the holders of the Cup wdiether 

 they will meet them wiXJi one of the large yachts, ^Mayflower or 

 Puritan, or whether they will a«ree to limit the contestants to a 

 smaller size; expressing their willingness i.o build either, but pre- 

 ferring the latter. It is understood that the letter is not a formal 

 challenge, as such is not possible at this stage, but is simply to 

 settle a nececsary preliminary- No favors are asked. No request 

 is made for the lines of the American yacht or for any limitation 

 as to typo, the only object being to settle on a certain length of 

 waterliue, so as to eliminate, as far as possilile, the inequalities of 

 a time allo^vance. There is no objection to ms.kiug known the 

 dimensions of the challenger as soon as they are deciclod upon, nor 

 to complying with all prescribed formalities; in short, the letter is 

 perfeotly fair and open, and in all courtesy entitles its senders to 

 a civil answer. Had the New Y''ork Y. C. replied that they pre- 

 ferred to race the large yachts now at their disposal, as they have 

 a perfect right to do, the matter would at once have been settled; 

 but instead of so doing, they have chosen to ignore entirely a 

 proposition which a regard for their own dignity should have con- 

 strained them to reply to with due courtesv. tJuder the circum- 

 stances the only course left for the challengers is to send a chal- 

 lenge in strict accordance with the deed of gift, naming the 

 dimensions of the boat they will build, and it follows that this 

 will be as large as Mayflower. 



Considering ouly the proposition of the Royal ClyTlc Y. C. it 

 would seem that the New York Y. C. has neglected an opportun- 

 ity that might be so utilized as to be of the greatest benefit to 

 American yachting, whose interests as defenders of the Cup 

 they are supposed to promote. Leaadngfor the present any claims 

 which the owners of the large yaclits may advance, the main ques- 

 tion is, what size of yacht is it most advisable to encourage? The 

 fact that any certain class, is selected for an international match 

 Is certain to" result in the building of more boats for that class, as 

 evidenced bv the building of Puritan, Mayflower and Atlantic 

 outside of the New A'ork Y. C. Now it would seem that this fact 

 would at once suggest itself as the best possible means of strengthen- 

 ing some one class and the only question then to be decided is 

 which is it advisable to encourage? The .50ft. class comes under 

 the 30 tons limit and besides is tuUy able to take care of itself, 

 being now the most iiatrouized of any. The next claES, under 70ft., 

 has heretofore been the most important one, including the largest 

 and best yachts of the Atlantic fleet. It is the class that most men 

 prefer to build to, as there are as yet very few men who have the 



