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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Nov. 11, 1880. 



dresses, but considerately gave me some of the latest papers In liis 

 possession, consisting of goody-goody religious weeklies several 

 weeks old and not suited to mv taste. ""VSTien you see the shutter 

 down," he said, "the office is open." 



Dressed up in long togs and canvas yacht shoes I strode through 

 the streets the first day on a hunt for eggs and potatoes. A lank, 

 old typical Southerner in top boots and slouch hat saUed up along- 

 side, and tapping me on the shoulder remarked, "Reminds me of 

 old war times, those shoes, when we were furnished with mocca- 

 sins and leather to tie 'em up from Richmond." All the forenoon 

 dusty buggies and mud-splashed one-horse shays had been rolling 

 across the bridge into town, the occupants rigged out in their best 

 to attend court and hold the grand palaver customary upon the 

 occasion. An itinerant artist had erected a tent wherein stood 

 his antiquated .'apparatus for daguerreotyplng such flies as he 

 could inveigle into his meshes. He pounced upon his game like a 

 Chatluim street dealer in old clothes, and found liis victims in 

 sundry amatory bucolic couples. The court house faced a 

 gra\'elly square, and opposite on each side of the street stood 

 two rival hotels catering to the croAvds of fresh arrivals. 

 These public houses were owned by two brothers, one of whom 

 was done out of his custom by the heartless machinations 

 of the sun, Both (■ara^^ansorieB were suiToundcd bv piazzas. 

 In the morning the crowd collected in the shade of the 

 house on the east side and pre-empted all the cliairs and 

 "benches to be had. By half-past 11 the sun got so far on his jour- 

 ney as to send his relentless rays directly under the eaves of tlie 

 protecdng roof, driving the occupants across the v.'av in searcli of 

 the new retreat now ottered by the shade on tlie west side of the 

 street. When noon came not a soul was to be seen on the east 

 side, whUe seventy hungry individuals were massed on the piazza 

 of the lucky Boniface why had built on t.'ie west side. Two lival 

 bells in the hands of zealous waiters clanged forth a brassy sum- 

 moi.s to the midday feast. One bell rang in vain, while seventy 

 stalwart feeders ffled into the door of the opposite establishment 

 and were received by mine host with a pleasant smile and much 

 gleeful rubbing of hands. He had lieard of mv arrival and singled 

 me out, conductiug me to a seat at the head of the table, a post of 

 honor, which the darky waiters quickly recognized by piling the 

 best dishes ou the table before me, a sort of confusion of riches. 

 The natives went at it with a ^^^U and got through with their task 

 ina.iiffy. Then all hands adjourned to the shady piazza once 

 more and leaned their chairs back against the clapboards, com- 

 placently watching a solitary female who could be seen through 

 the window of the opposite establishment dispatching her meal, 

 with four waiters fanning her for want of other guests to attend. 



Among the crowd there soon appeared a central star of attrac- 

 tion. A -well preserved old gentleman, straight as an arrow, broad 

 .acros&'the shoulders, with smallest of feet encare 1 in silk stockings, 

 low-cut shoes, sauntered up the steps of the hotel and created a 

 little sensation. In dignified fashion he gracefully bowed to the 

 multitude and received in turn their congratulations. The best 

 arm chair was pro ffered and the old gentleman seated himself, 

 glancing occasionally at his Little feet, of which he seemed quite 

 proud. His reliued manners, black broadcloth suit, silk tile and 

 patent leather shoes proclaimed him the great man of the county. 

 I thought he might be the judge presiding at court. A moment 

 later the conversation opened: "Wlien I was in Washington." 

 That settled it. Soon after the word "deestrict" was bandied back 

 and forth and it became evident that this fine old Southern gen- 

 tleman was none other than "the Member" from the Congres- 

 sional District. Hence the respect vrith whicli he was treated and 

 the deference with whicli his audience received his really intelligent 

 opinions on current aUairs: "WJien 1 was in Washiu'gt;on" has a 

 magical effect in a country constituency. The contrast between 

 the choice of this community of small farmers and the question- 

 able characters sent to Congress by great and alleged enlightened 

 cities was certainly very much in favor of hayseed electors. 



The next six days it blew a heavy gale from N.E., accompanied 

 by torrents of rain. The Coot remained off the town during this 

 time and dragged her anchors till she came near splitting her pre- 

 cious self on some of the stumps. C. P. K. 



THE THETIS-STRANGER CONTROVERSY. 



WITH the following letters we close this subject, as it is evi- 

 dent that no good can result from a continuation of the 

 discussion. Mr. Kunhardt has declined to pursue the subject any 

 further, though the right to reply belongs to him, and the matter 

 must end here: 



Editor FoTcst and Stream: 



You have already given much space to the Thetis-Stranger 

 races from Ne\vport to Marblehead, but I hope you will find a 

 place still for Captain Snow's own account of it— much more 

 detailed and accurate ths.n any yet publislied— because the numbers 

 of the FOKEST AND 8TBEAM are preserved for a permanent record 

 of yachting matters, and this race, as bearing on the only real 

 issue now in dispute in the cutter-Puritan type controversy, has 

 an importance greater than all other races of the last two seasons 

 put together. Mr. Kunhardt, in the Forest axd STREA>r of 

 Oct. I'l, writes so as to convey the impression that his views have 

 Tjeen widely different from wliat he lias reaUy put on record. He 

 there aims to make it appear he has never claimed superiority for 

 the cutter as a type. That his opinion has always been that in 

 trials of speed tj^pe does not enter at all, but only the merits in 

 design and construction of the several boats; that a more finely 

 modeled sloop wUl beat a less finely modeled cutter and \ice versa. 

 In other words, that his view has been the natural and reasonable 

 one, that, of whatever stide, all yachts when pitted against each 

 other, must be judged by their individual merits, just as two 

 sloops would be when pitted against each other. But he has 

 claimed this and much more, and the "much more" happens to be 

 the real essence of the controversv. 



His real -^iew has been often expressed as follows: In normal 

 conditions of yachting weather there is no superiority of type, tlie 

 better modeled boat will vnn. But in high winds and heavy liead 

 seas a cutter, simply because she is cutter, witliout special indi- 

 vidual merit, will beat the best sloop which can be produced, and 

 beat her so badly as to make a show of her. Fortunately he has 

 summed up his opinion in the "\^'liose Waterloo?" articles in a few 

 words easily quoted. In the last of those articles, after giving his 

 opinion as to futm-e cup races, in which the Puritan type should 

 contest, viz., that in normal conditions the better modeled boat 

 would win without regard to type, he added, "If Galatea catches 

 us in a cringle bio \v and chalk-pit sea, then unless Galatea is be- 

 low the rest of her family, the cutter will make sport of any sloop 

 we can ever produce." * * * "Puritan would fail to score in 

 reefing breezes" (in British M^aters). And this has been, no matter 

 how it is now disclaimed, the theory of about all cutter men, :Mr. 

 John Harvey, over his own signature in the Boston Hcixikl, before 

 the 1886 Cup races, said that while only a mediocre cutter, Gala- 

 tea, "like ail vessels of her type, would beat Maj'flower [and her 

 type] in a howlins breeze to ^vlnaward and in a roueh sea." 



The importance of the Thetis-Stranger race is that it has "tee- 

 totally" knocked this dogmatic, out-of -hand theory into a cocked 

 hat. Sachem has kicked the hat into the deep sea. The way is 

 now cleared for a reasonable discussion of the capabilities of any 

 vessel of any type, in any weather, and a free field is open to the 

 development of all, without a pseudo-scientific theory barring the 

 way to all but one. 



Captain Snow's letter was written while Thetis was at Marble- 

 head, in response to questions from me as to the force and 

 direction of the ^v•ind, and performance of the yachts in the beat 

 up Cape Cod, I stating that his letter might be sent to the Foeest 

 AJST> Stbbam. 1 quote all of Captain Snow's letter bearing on the 

 race. D. W. Brown. 



"New York, Oct. 30, 1886.— We left Newport precisely at 10 

 o'clock. It Avas blowing a good stiff breeze from N.W. or there- 

 abouts. We started with our three lower sails set, and after 

 rounding Fort Adams we set our gafltopsail, which was followed 

 by Stranger. After jibing around Brenton's Reef buoy we set our 



were a half mile or more ahead. We then took the passage through 

 Quick's Hole and had to jibe twice. Stranger went around Bow 

 and Pigs, and we came in abreast in the Sound. When off Tar- 

 paulin Cove our topmast backstay parted and carried away top- 

 mast. Then we felt the race was lost, so we took the north chan- 

 nel and he the south over the Shoals, he getting to the Hand- 

 kerchief Light about SOmin. ahead of us. Then he bad to take in 

 his light sails on accoujit of wind. From there to Pollock Itip 

 buoy we shortened his lead to ITmin. So wlien we hauled up 

 around the buoy, he Avas ITmin. ahead of us— and a very bad sea 

 and more wind than either of us needed for three sails. In lOmin. 

 were up abreast of him, he apparently bearing up all the time and 

 not making much headway, \\'hile we were going like a racehorse. 

 About this" time our throat halliard parced, and again wo were 

 crippled. Soon after this he tacked inshore and housed his topmast 

 and two-reefed his sail. We rove off our throat halliard and iwo- 

 reefod the uiyinsail, which took us about one-half hour, and furled 

 our f orestaysail. We tacked inshore to make it smoother, as we 

 could see him standing up the shore, and he crossed our bow about 

 one-half mile ahead of us. When abreast Chatham Bar we saw 

 what we called Stranger, a little to tlie leeward of us, with jib 



down, which afterward proved to be correct, as he said he changed 

 ,1 t)ig .nb tor a smaller one. This was the last we saw of him 

 After 12_ o'clock at night the wind moderated a very little and we 

 set our rorestaysail. We then were off the Highlands of Hape 

 Cod, with a very bad sea, for the tide was running to windward 

 I should have said that the wind was about N.N.W. As we drcv 

 up the cape it gradually Jiauled to the N.W,, injddng it a df-nd 

 beat. After weathering Peaked Hill bar w^e stood woll over to 

 the Gurnet, aud tacked to stand to the north. Shoilly after tack- 

 ing the wind hauled a little more to the west and let us up on our 

 course for Marblehead, arriving there at 9;-10;.55 A. M.— remarkably 

 ^ood time, considering seventy miles dead to windward beating 

 htranger 4h. 8m. By what I hear from those cm ooaid of tlie 

 Stranger, she was completely drowned out. We set the watch at 

 tne usual time, and had no trotible keeping one num tor',\'!ird on 

 the lookout all night. In the morning Stranger was nowhere in 

 sight and we could not tell who was ahead, but «-e had a vf>ry 

 strong impression wo wore. The wind slanted to the westward, so 

 that the .Stranger fetched right over from thn nape, making a 

 shorter distance for him to go than we ha,d. If the wind had not 

 hauled I think wo would have beaten him five hours, for he liad 

 the advantage of the wind's hauling. E. A. .Snow." 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I do not know who "Sternpost" is, but I see by his letter in your 

 last issue that my letter to you over the signature of "Sloop Crank" 

 is capa ble o£ a construction wMch I had not intended. In writing 

 as .sinoi) (_'rank" I was only engaged in the harmless and hoi.eleas 

 undertaking of trying to clear ouc of Mr. Kunhardi'8 kinkv yarns, 

 llic Stranger is, 1 am perfectly willing to admit, a faster light- 

 weather boat than the Thetis. 1 do not thnik I liave claimed tliat 

 any of the races except the Kewport one were ilukv, and in that I 

 probably had my sliare of tlie flulces with tlie rest. 1 have no wish 

 to belittle light weather boats, the fact that I dislike them is noth- 

 ing against tliem, .so far as I know. I have no intcution of increas- 

 ing the sail area of Thetis, but wliat she bus should be further aft. 



In regard to the N. Y. Y. C. regatta. 1 .gave up mv right to the 

 second class .sloop pnze lo help the Regatta Committee out of a 

 scrape. Had I known that Mr. Rogers wished llie tirst class prize, 

 to which ho 18 entitled, nothing would have induced mn to give 

 up the second class prize. I think the Stranger is probalilv the 

 fastest light-wea ther boat in America of her size; she certainly 

 went through the Bedouin's lee very prettily in the Newport race 

 while the boars were together after rounding the bell buoy. 



Boston, Nov. 7, 1886. Henky Bryant. 



Editor Foref<t and Stream: 



In reply to Mr. Kunhardt's answer to my note, it may sm-prise 

 the reader, \vl\o remembers his stigmatism of cowardice in using 

 an alias, to know that I authorized the Forest and Sthiijam to 



five him my name. Again, the custom of using an alias in the 

 'OREST AND STREAM Is almost Universal with those not desirous 

 of notoriety. 



Mr. K. makes it appear that 1 called Cinderella, Daphne, Shadow 

 and some others "plugs." I did not do so in any case, and referred 

 to Shadow and Cinderella as "cracks." 



He says I assumed he "omitted Ulidia in the E. Y. C. race from 

 dishonest motives." I assumed nothing, but stated the fact that 

 heprinted her record and omitted that defeat. 



He now says, "I omitted Ulidia for the same reason that I ex- 

 cused the alleged sloop Thetis." But tlie article in question i-eads, 

 "June 29, E. \. C— Bedouin beat Thetis," and twice reads, 'Mime 

 29. E. Y. C.-Stranger beat Thetis." He omits the cutter's defeat 

 from record and simply excuses that of the sloop, his excuse still 

 showing her defeat, while his omission of the cutter's conceals 

 hers. 



Evidently Mr. K.'s memory does not run back as far as Oct. 14, 

 or else lie did not wTite the article appearing over his name. 



My point was a simple one, viz., that he had published so-called 

 records of three or four cutters, omitting some of the races where 

 they were beaten. 1 mentioned E. Y. O. race in Ulxdia's record 

 and now add that he omitted Goclet Cup race from SI ranger's 

 record and N. R. Y. C. fall race fromUlidia's, thev being beaten in 

 both. 



The word "slashing," as applied to "sea," may be foolish, in 

 fact I think it is, liut I simply quoted it, as I did " plug" from his 

 article of Oct. li ; he will find it there if he looks. 



Boston, -Nov. 5. Fair Play. 



[Pair Play is correct in stating that he authorized us to disclose 

 his name to Mr. Ktmhardt, but he did not authorize us to append it 

 to his letter, the statements in which were made over a noni de 

 plume, and were consequently anonymous as far as the public, for 

 whom tlie letter was written, were concerned. We may explain 

 that Mr. Kunhardt's article \\ as in typo and had been revised by 

 him prior to the New Rochelle Y. C. race, which consequently was 

 not mcluded. The expression aUuded to reads " a slasliing breeze 

 and sea."] 



Editor Forest cmd Strciim. 



The statement of sloops being frightened out in the Shona class 

 in the E. Y. C. race merely shows ignorance of the facts, for any 

 one who knows Dr. Bryant, owner of Shado-w, knows full well that 

 if he were willing to tackle Madge— 15ft. ia length— in half a gale 

 of A^ind, off Point Judith, and beat her ou a stretch to windward 

 against a heavy sea— till the wind suddenly sliifted— knows that 

 he wouldn't scare much at a 3Gft. boat, and a cutter at that, in a 

 good breeze and smooth -water. SUona only beat Shadow after the 

 latter split tacks with her, and why should Shadow not split tacks'? 

 She had beaten her in thirty minutes from start and badly, and 

 furthermore, Shona wa.s not in Sliadow's class. Shona stood off 

 shore took perhaps a trifle better breeze, or less tide, perhaps, and 

 by this "fluke," as Mr. Kunhardt calls it, Avhen the "hoot is on 

 tlie other leg," and managed then and there to get three or four 

 minutes' lead. 



Mr. Kunhardt alludes to Thetis as a "second class racer;" now 

 although Thetis is not claimed to be a racer in any sense, simply 

 a cruising boat, will Mr. Kunhardt inform me where he d raws 

 the line between a first class racer, second class racer and racer. 

 Yet Thetis as second rate racer, as depicted by him, raced around 

 Cape Cod in the teeth of a gale of wind— not a half gale, but a good 

 old-fashioned out aud out howl, and I fancy I know whereof I 

 speak— and showed her ability under two reefs to log 7 knots an 

 horn- against a terrible .sea aud tide, while ll-masted schooners 

 laden with 500 to 1,000 tons coal, tied up under lee of Cape Cod, 

 rather than risk their vessels in the jump off the Cape. 



Now where was the boasted safe— if nothing more— model? 

 Stranger laid to in the bay under two roci s and jib bobbed, while 

 the hands lying under weather iiulwaj-ks hud their feet and legs 

 in solid water, which swept tliis "safe model" from stem to stern, 

 and all hands doubted if Stranger would live through the night. 

 Mr. Kunhardt will find it hard to find excuse for tlio action of his 

 pet model, as Stranger's skipper is from the other side and is a 

 very capable man. 



The "second rate racer," which arrived 4 liours ahead of Stranger 

 at Marblehead had meals served iuthe cabin throughout the en- 

 tire race at the usual times. Edward H, Hawes. 



Boston, Nov. 1. 



[The fact that Shona and Shadow wete in different classes has 

 nothing to do with their respective merits, as the two boats, of 

 the same waterline length, sailed over tJie same course at the 

 same time and in a fair breeze, the keel beating the centerboard 

 decisively. Whatever Thetis's ability may be as a heavy weather 

 boat, her races for two seasons have proved that she has no place 

 with the leaders in ordinarv weather, and few yachtsmen will 

 claim that she is in any sense a first-rate crack. 



THE CONSTRUCTION OF i?ACINO YACHTS. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In the matter of construction the yacht designer of Great Britain 

 attaches a much higher value to the virtue of light material in 

 the build of racing yachts than the generality of our builders and 

 designers. He knows full well that as fai' as reJhiomeut of lines is 

 concerned, the greatest perfection has been well nigh attained, 

 and that it is useless to look for the hoped for supcrioiity in that 

 direction. 



What then so natural as that he shotUd tuna to the almost un- 

 limited possibilities of light building to attain the highest speed 

 the foi-m of his desi.gn is capable of. Tied down to the beam 

 taxing, spin 'em out endv.-.avi, tonnage rule, Ms ideas naturally 

 tend toward greatt^r length aud lus.s beam with the hope of obtaiu- 

 ing equal or greater .speed than in the existing boats, and at the 

 same time to re-ei'- e allovianoe from them. This is practically 

 the only element of uncertaitity connected with the design, for it 

 stands to reason tliat there must be a limit to this elongating nar- 

 rowing process somewhere. 



The Oona, planned by the late W. E. Pat on, is one on the new- 

 est examoles of an cxtremo a-tonner. Longer and narrower than 

 any of her predece.s.sor3, witu a displacement of la tons, her hull 

 and equipments only weighed 3 tons. Such flue calculations as 

 wore bor^towed on the scheming out of this yacht would indeed be 

 a re velatiou to the builders of this country. It is greatlv to be re- 

 gretted that the capabiliticB of this thoroughbred racing cutter 

 should be unknown. But what can be- said of Clara, Ulidia,Slioifia 

 and Madge, the exiles to these waters.' Are they lightly built? As- 

 suredly they are. All are living arguments in favor of light 



scantling. How else could Clara have made such an unrivalled 

 record? How else could Ulidia have topped the heap in her class 

 at home? For what other reason could jNIadge have overturned 

 the placid assurance of the skimming dish persuasion of yachts- 

 men? Not until she met the Sliadow did her victorious caree'- re- 

 ceive a check. 



The modern racing cutter has readied her highest prestige. Her 

 star is paling before the dawn of a new era in yacht des-iguin"- 

 ijor ttie.good she has acconipliBlied in assisting the evolution of 

 our ideas to that higher pitch of naval perfection exemplified in 

 the Shadow type of American sloop, all praise shall be hers. Her 

 mission is accomplished. Let her die. 



To tlic fact of superiority in build alone 1 ascribe tlie successes 

 of the most prominent representative cutters now in this country 

 \\ hen, fcr instance, Clara,, by reason of her build, is able to carry 

 ~o or oO per cent, more ballast, in proportion to her displacement, 

 than her competitors of like loadline, is it anv wonder that her 

 record is so favorable in comparison ? Besides, it is a weU known 

 tact that her handliug could not well be bettered. In her first sea- 

 son, and vnth. her best form as yet undiscovered, the performance 

 ^^.fi'^'i^^rella in her last two races is remarkable, m.^ king Clara 

 sau tor every bit that was in her in order to score. 



the poor showing of Galatea against Mayflower is traceable to 

 her shortcomings m respect to build, for v\'ith the defeat of Gen- 

 esta as a warning she could not aft'ord to sacvUicp .-atv advantage 

 to be dcrn-ed from the ability to earrv more ballast at same load- 

 line, and as !i natural sequenco, a larger sail arc.) ; ;ah tf-i-« sail 

 area is indeed paltry when compared with i\Iay ilmvcr's allQWance 

 or sail ; but how often have we been told thai, other tfnnL's being 

 equal, the cutter, with a smaller and more economical rig, is as 

 fa^st as the sloop. Although Galatea's ability to do as wcU as some 

 other British yachts in tiie try for the Cun was questioned hy the 

 English sportmg journals, not one word was said about any short- 

 commg in the matter of sail area. For, bo it remembered, her 

 first fit of muslin was found to be too large for best performance 

 and ^vas therefore cut down with improved re.snlts. 



Clara, with a sail area of a like proportion with Galatea, smaller 

 than that of our sloops, shows nn in fa r better form comparati^'flj-. 

 How is this fact to be accounted for? Either by the suppo.=ition 

 that there ia something wrong about GJalatea's foriu oi' nuild. or 

 else a Yankee sloop can be turned out that w ill df-icat Clara, as 

 badly as was Galatea defeated by Mayflower. The Isngtli and 

 sail area rule of tlie N. Y. Y. C. must be ra.iicaUv iucorrert. or else 

 tJie value of tlie factor of sail area must be larnelv increased to 

 rate Mayflower and Galatea at evens. 



Galatea has undoubtedly ns good a form on her dnnenslons as 

 Mayflower po.ssosses. To her heavy build then mast wo look to 

 esplaiu why her record is not up to Chu-a's list of wins. Her ratio 

 of ballast to displacement being about the same as ^iayflower's, 

 viz., 50 per cent., she has no extra ballast-carr'^ing power as a 

 margin to oft.sct her inferiority. 



When I was a boy I made and sailed alargenumber of miniature 

 yachts, aud tlie boat that, by reason of being gouged out the thin- 

 nest,, was able to carry the most ballast and sail was invariably— 

 although perhaps of a less favorable shape fcr speed— faster tliaU 

 her sisters. 



Apropos of Mr. Kunhardt's statement that Thetis is "not a 

 flyer ot the first water," 1 venture to assert that the British cutter 

 of her length that falls in with her in a wholcaail breei^e and steep 

 sea, has great need of being a "recognized crack" to get out on the 

 above named sloop's weather. 



As to the victory of Shona over Shadow, any yachtsman knows 

 that the result of one race is a poor criterion on which to base a 

 conclusion of the respective merits of two yachts. The aversion 

 of .Shona.'s sixmsors to a match with Shadow savors of an evident 

 de.sire to shirlv the issue of such a contest, in which they well 

 know that the chances are in favi'r of Shadow. 



LTntil the eflicacy ot liglitnes.s in .speed-making is more generally 

 recognized in the construction of our yachts, the day is not far 

 distant when a British keel cutter, possessing large initial stabil- 

 ity, and above allj of great li,ghtncss and strength, Will come over 

 and foreclose an mdisiiutable mortgage ou the international cup. 

 And that it will be a very hard task to get it back is the unwilling 

 dictum of Deep DitAirr Centerboard. 



[Our correspondent is entirely eorreet in ascribing the success 

 of the narrow cutters in part to their superior build, but he over- 

 looks the fact that their peculiar model, with solid keel and easy 

 bilge is in itself naturally stronger than tliat of the "deep draf;t 

 centerboard" with a hard bilge and lieavy keel, the latter neces- 

 sarily divided. It is also to the advantage of the cutter that she 

 maybe driven with a smaller sail area, but it does not follow of 

 necessity that she cannot be under-rigged. Galatea's sail plan 

 this year is the origiuiU one with which she first raced in 138i), at 

 whicJi time her ballast was stowed much higher dian at present. 

 There is, no doubt, ample room for improvement in the build and 

 rigging of our yachts, but it mttst not be forgotten that in wood, 

 at least, tlie form requires greater w eight and strength than in 

 such boats as Clara and Ulidia.] 



CHANGES OF OWNERSHIP.-The steam yacht Stranger was 

 sold on Nov. 5 to Mr. George Scott, American Y. C, by her 

 owner, Mr. E. S. Jaff'ray, the price reported being ;?UO,0OO. Mr. 

 Jatfray will at once build aTiotber steamer, which will have as high 

 a speed as can be obtained. Her dimensions will probably be 

 about 230ft. L.W,L, by 28ft, beam and 18ft. hold, drawing 17ft. Mr. 

 Scott formerly owned tlie Viking, built for him by John Roach and 



afterward sold by him to the late Samuel J. Tilden Marina, 



steam yaclit, built by the Herreshoffs for Mr. Geo. Beck, in 1884, 



has been sold by him to Mr. Ohas. F. Chickeriiig The little steam 



yacht Anna A., built at Nyack for Ferdinand Ward and lately 

 owned by Mr. .'Vlexander Pollock, has been sold to go to Colon for 



use as a despatch boat on the Panama canal Hermes, schooner, 



Mr. Daniel Applcton, has been sold to a Pittsburgh yachtsman. 



LAKE ONTAKIO. — The following statement has been prepared 

 by Com. Phelps, Oswego Y. C„ .showing the strength of yac-hting 

 on Lake Ontario: Oswego Y. C, founded b^8] 151 active rnember,s. 



19 yachts; Royal Canadian Y. C, organized 1854,330 active mem- 

 bers, 18 yachts; Toror ' ■ ■ ■"■ ' 

 29 yachts; Kingston 



hers, 18 yachts; Toronto Y. C, organized 1881 ;i.'5 active members, 

 29 yachts; Kingston Y. C, organized 188-3, a5 active members. 12 

 yacnts, and the Bay of Quinte Y. C, organJzod 1870, 100 active 



members, 10 yachts, making a total of STiO active yachtsmen and 83 

 yachts on Lake Ontario. 



CRLTisiNG.-The sloop Sparkle, Mr. E. 8. Brown, New Bedford 

 Y. C, arrived at Beaufort, N. C, ou Nov. 3, having left New Bed- 

 ford on Oct. (i. She is bound to Florida Mascotte, sloop, from 



New York, was also in port on Nov\ 5, on her way to Panama 



Re.gina, sloop, Rear-Coia. Ralph N. Ellis, S. C. Y. C, -will cruise in 

 the Chesapeake Bay this winier.. Sasqua, sloop. Com. Henry 

 Andrus, Harlem Y. C, iuis. just returned from a shooting and fish- 

 ing cruise on Long Island Souud . . .Dauntless, schooner, Mr. C. H. 

 Colt, lias also been ou a similar ciaiise about the Thimble l.slands 

 — Talisman, steam yacht, Mr. J.W. Slater, will cruise about Flor- 

 ida and the West Indies this winter. 



SALE OF THE ATLANTIC.-The yacht Atlantic was offered 

 at auction on Nov. at the rooms of R. K. Montgomery ou Wall 

 street, in tlie presence of about CO yachtsmen, most of them evi- 

 dently attracted only by curiosity. After stating that the yacht 

 cost iiffifl.tiUO and Avas very fast, the auctioneer called for bids wliich 

 were not forthcoming, then he e.vnressed his willingness to accept 

 as little as S10,00O to .start wiLb. Finally an offer of .§2,000 was 

 heard which Mr. L. A. Fisli raised quickly to $3,000. Aftprthisthe 

 bidding was slowly raised to .'gi7,f500, at which figure she was 

 knocked down to Mr. Fish. 



JAMAICA BAY^ RACES.— A match for ■ i.- w.as saHed 



on Nov^ 7 oft' Ruffle Bar between the Ka t c : the course 



being out to a markboat off Switt'sDoc L _ i . 'there was a 



strong N. W. wind, aud both carried si;igli: l eei s, Lizzie E. first 



trying whole sail on the beat out, and Kate carrying a reef until 

 headed homeward. The times were : 



Start. Turn. Finish. Elapsed. 



Kat« . 3 26 4 13 10 4 44 10 1 17 50 



Lizzie R 3 26 40 4 14 30 4 46 55 1 20 15 



OSWEGO Y. C— On Nov. 4 the Oswego Y. C. held a meeting at 

 which the following ofiicers for 1887 were elected: Commodore, 

 .lohn T. Molt: Vice-Commodore. V/. B. Phelps, Jr.; Captain, J. B. 

 McMurrich; Secretary, A. N. Radcliffe^reasurer, J. D. Hender- 

 som Surgeon, J. W. Eddy; Measurer, Wm. P. Judson; Directors, 

 J. P. Phelps, J. D. Donnelif , Swits Conde. 



HARLEM Y. C— The tollo^ving officers -were elected on Nov. 4: 

 Commodore, J. A. Hutchinson: Vice-Corn.. W. L. "Wheeler; Secre- 

 tan, W. J. Parker; Treasurer, H. M.Jones; Measurer, J. B. Bate?; 

 Board of Directors, Henry Andruss, A. Metzger, J. T. Lalor asid 

 D. Fitzgerald. 



HA^^'ANA Y. C— Havana boasts of a yacht club and a number 

 of yachts, and a regatta was lately sailed there. The club burgee 

 is similar to the N. Y. Y. C. with the star omitted. 



LONG ISLAND SKIFFS.— A correspondent asks for the address 

 of a huilder of the small sailing skiff's uted about Long Island. 



WENONAH— Mr. StiUman'scunerhas been tewed to Piepgi-aas's 

 at City Island to lay up. 



METEOR.— This steam yacht is now at Poillon'sfor alterations. 



