FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Nov. 18, 1886. 



American sloop— as she was known up to the appearance of Puri- 

 tan in 1885— and the modern British racing cutter. Thetis, May- 

 flower, and their kind, scarcely represent the original question m 

 a true light. A regular sloop, like the Fanny of New York, In 

 competition with the cutter Stranger, would more strictly alf ord 

 the comparison upon which my stand has been taken. 



Mr. Brown will probably agree with me. that a Fanny would not 

 only have been distanced by a Stranger during the coarse bout 

 from Newport to Marblehead— in Avliich Thetis won her laurels- 

 but also that a Fanny would have been totally unable to face the 

 gale and sea to any advantage. 



Tliat the new hermaphrodites with their lead keels, cutter rigs 

 and cutter equipments are a vast improvement upon the Ameri- 

 can sloop for hard weather service is admitted on all sides, and 

 that they will average better than the sloop in competition with 

 the British cutter follows as a natural sequence. 



The Miranda— Sachem race should not be invested with too 

 much weight. Miranda was built back in 75 and, aocoi-diug to the 

 dictum of those who concede the cutter Clara's superiority, is 

 "only an old boat." She is quite beamy, has but a portion of her 

 ballast outside, raced with rough copper, old and ill-fitting sails 

 and in the hands of an American skipper. I mention this by the 

 way of information, wthout any wish to detract from Sachem's 

 honest victory, or to impugn the skill of Miranda's master. 

 Miranda in thoroughly modern racing form may prove a teaser. 



Beyond this heavy weather question there seems to be no differ- 

 ence between Mr. Brown and myself, for he writes tnat in other 

 respects "his view has been the natural and reasonable one, that, 

 of whatever style, all yachts when pitted against each other, must 

 be judged by their individual merits, just as two sloops would be 

 when pitted against each other." C. P. Kunhabdt. 



THETIS AND STRANGER. 



Somerset Club, Boston.— Editor Forest and Stream: I hope you 

 will allow me to write a few lines in answer to Mr. Edward Hawes's 

 letter in your paper of the 11th inst. Mr. Hawes states that "we 

 laid to in the bay," etc., which is not true. When we got to the 

 bay the wind was so light that we had hardly steerage way. We 

 wei-e hove to several times from Pollock's Rip to Highland Lig;ht, 

 twice reehng mainsail, once housing topmast and once changing 

 jibs. 



He goes on to say "the hands lying under weather bulwarks had 

 their feet and legs in solid water, which swept this 'safe model' 

 from stem to stern," which is again untrue. He ends uij by say- 



ing, "All hands doubted if Stranger would live through the night." 

 This is certainly without an atom of truth. 



I would not trouble you, only statements like Mr. Hawes's are 

 apt to mislead people living at a distance or on the other side, if left 

 unanswered. 



The signatures of Mr. Longfellow, who was with me and that of 

 my sailing master, are attached as witnesses to the truth of my 

 denial to Mr. Hawes's false assertions. 



Geo. H. Warren, 

 Harry Randall, 

 Sailing Master Yacht Stranger, 

 C. A. Longfellow. 



A NEW YACHT BASIN FOR BOSTON.-Messrs. Lawley 

 & Son have in hand a plan for the construction of a basin about 

 500s240ft. at their north yard for laying up yachts. The present 

 wharf will be supplemented by two others, making a sheltered 

 basin with a depth of 1.3ft. at low tide. On the piers storehouses 

 will be erected for boats, sails and spars. The boats now lying 

 at Mystic Wharf have been notified to leave in April as the site 

 is needed by a railroad company. The plan, if carried out, -will 

 give sucli facilities to yaclitsmen as no other port in the country 

 affords. 



A SHOAL DRAFT BOAT FOR FLORIDA WATERS.-Boston, 

 Nov. S.— Editor Forest and Stream: Your correspondent inquiring 

 for a sloop in Florida may liear of a 24ft. skipjack, cat rig, built on 

 purpose for and suited to the country, by addressing Wm. H.Reed, 

 Canaveral, Fla. The boat is well built (by Briggs, near Tiverton, 

 R. I.), planked lengthwise on bottom, and draws 18in., Babbitt's 

 slide rig, etc. Mr. Reed would probably sell her for $250 to $300, 

 delivered at Titusville, which is the terminus of the J. T. & K. W. 

 R. R. on Indian River.— Chas. A. Welch, Jr. 



PERSONAL.— Mr. J. Borden, Jr., of Fall River, has joined with 

 Mr. Gr. F. Clarke, of the Boston Yacht Agency, under the name of 

 G. F. Clarke & Co. Mr. Borden will attend to the yacht designing 

 department. 



COMET.— The sloop yacht Comet, of Newport, bound from that 

 port to Colon, was nearly wrecked and put into Ruatan with mast, 

 mainsail, boom and rudder carried away, and the cabin trunk 

 stove iu. 



PUZZLE.- Mr. Jacob Lorillard has sold the Puzzle, steam vacht. 

 to Mr. J. L. Mott, of New York. 

 AWIXA.— This yacht arrived at St. Augustine on Nov. 13. 



MEASUREMENT IN ENGLAND.— At a late meeting of the 

 Council of the Y. R. A. the following resolution was passed: 

 "That a committee be appointed to report upon the working of 

 the two measurement rules which are now in force, and to ^- .g- 

 gest any alterations to the same which may appear likely to have 

 an advantageous effect on yacht building and yacht racing; and 

 further, to report upon the present classification of yachts by 

 tonnage and sail area, and to suggest such alterations or new 

 rules of measurement and classification as may be desirable." 

 The following committee was appointed, with instructions to 

 secure the opinions of experts: Sir W. B. Forwood, Mr. F. Wil- 

 lan,Mr. G. B. Thompson, Mr. H. Crawford, Mr. ^V. Baden-Powell, 

 Col. Reach, R.E., Mr. A. Manning, Mr. F. Taylor, M.P., Mr. W. G. 

 Jameson, Mr. J. Scott and Mr. E. R. Tatchell. Two meetings 

 have been held, and Messrs. Alexander Richardson, J. Beavor- 

 Webb, Dixon Kemp, C. P. Clayton, W. Fife, Jr., and G. L. Watson 

 have given their views. The committee will report the last of 

 this month. Meanwhile, if we may judge from the Field, the 

 British yachtsman is in a decidedly mixed state of mind as to the 

 various points in dispute. The Field deals with the question, 

 Will a sail area rating produce a long vessel?" in its last issue; 

 but after a rather lengthy discussion it throws no newlitjht on 

 the subject. The outcome of the subject ^v-ill probably be a length 

 and sail area rule or one of sail area alone. 



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