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FOREST AND STREAM. 



363 



THE PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL MATCH. 



BOSTON— The. Executive Committee appointed l»y the National 

 Grua Association met at the Parker Ho-use last Siitnrclay to 

 take the initiatory stei)s toward hringin;? ahout an in Ler notional 

 rifle contest in this vicinity next snmmer. Tliis tourniinient origi- 

 nated at the suggestion of a number of Western and Southern 

 Bhooters, and its ohject is to hring ;iViout a .'oiupetitivc trial of skill 

 between British and American marksmen. It was proposed to 

 have teams of either five or ten men, with two alternates, which 

 will he choeen at largo from the two countries, ;ind each team is 

 to shoot at lOtt Ligowsky clay-pigeons, one-fourth to he shot 

 each day. The rules of the National Gun Association to goveru 

 the match in all material points. It is also proposed, if the efforts 

 to brim? ahont the contest are successfril, to have an individual 

 championship match for tlie Ligowsky $'ioO diamond badge. At 

 the meeting vesterday there were present C. W. Dimick, Boston; 

 J. S. Sawyer, Cambridgeporl; C. M. Stark, Winchester; O. R.. 

 Dickev. Boston; and by proxy, Judge M. R. Freeman,]VIacon, tra.; 

 James N. Fiwc, Boston; H. W. Eager, Marlboro; E. A. Folsom, New 

 Haven; Dr. W. H. Vincent, MouLpolier,Vt.; D. Kirkwood and Wm. 

 Lloyd, Jr., Boston; W. S. Perry, Worcester. In addition to these 

 there was Col. J. E. Bloom, of Cincinnati, O., who came to consult 

 with the committee as to the various details. 

 As a result^, the following resolutions were passed : 

 Resolved, That the general committee be increased by the addi- 

 tion of the following gentlemen : Mr. Tinker of Providence, W. L. 

 Davis of Worcester, E. W. Buffington of Fall Ri\ er, F. M. Ames 

 of Bay Ridge, L. I. ; Dr. Gcrrish of Exeter, N. H. ; W. I. Ritch of 

 New York city, E. J. Wardwell of Boston, T. G. Strater of Boston, 



A. F.Adams of Boston, Col. Far rington of Portland, Mc. ; A. G. 

 Conrtney of Syracuse, N. Y. ; R. B. Organ of Chicago, J . Von Len- 

 gerke, New York; Captain West, St. Louis, Mo. ; i>. N. Piowe, C. 



B. Reynolds, editor Forest assd Stream ; L. C. Bruce, W. T. HHl, 

 Aurora, Ind.: F. Dralce, Bradford, Penn.; C. F. Chamberlain, 



rsoston, iviass. : .loini vviietsioiit-'. oiiiciiijuiti , o.r. jlhuj L.i;:iis.iL,iu, 

 Keokuk, la.; C.A.Bragg, H. Fitzgerald and A. J. Rust, all of 

 Philadelphia; C. P. Richards, Du Quoin, 111. , Mr. Palmer, Savan- 

 nah, Oa. ; E. A. Crawford, Tallahassee. Fla. ; A. Meuders, Nash- 

 ville, Term.; Mr. Haalett, Washington, f'enn. 



Resolved, Tliat we cordially indorse the inlcrnational challenges 

 as already issued, and that we hope for an early acceptance of the 

 challenge in order to give opportunity to all contestants to pre- 

 pare for the match. 



Resolved, That the tournament be held on the grounds of the 

 Wellington Gun Club, June 1, 3, 3 and 4, 1SS7. Or if this should be 

 found impracticable on said grounds, that a committee of four on 



fTOunds, to wit, Messrs, Dimick, Sa^vyer, Eager and Tinker have 

 ull power to select other suitable grounds. 



Resolved, That the secretary be instructed to send a copy of the 

 challenge, with an earnest appeal for its friendly i-eceptioii, to the 

 Prince of Wales and the prominent sportsmen of England. 



Resolved, That Messrs. Stark, Dimick and Gerrish be appointed 

 a committee on hotels, and if suitable terms can be made at the 

 Quincy House, that the same be designated as the headquarters of 

 the visiting sportsmen to this city. 



Resolved, That two distinct series of matches be held at the 

 tournament, viz,: One open to all comers and tlie other barring 

 all champion shots, subject to the decision of the ma jority of the 

 executive committee, the entrance fee to the latter matches being 

 $1, and at the former, or main matches, such amounts as the ex- 

 ecutive committee may deem proper. 



Resolved, Tliat the comndtLee on prizes take necessary steps to 

 procure an international challenge cuii, valued at S500 to be com- 

 peted for. 



Resolved, that the executive committee of the National Gun 

 Association, Judge M. R. Freeman, chairman, be authorized to 

 select the American team for such international matcli. 



Resolved, That the National Game Association be urged to co- 

 operate with the committee and the National Gun Association in 

 ma,king a truly national success out of the international match. 



Resolved, That J. N. Frye, 15 Pearl street, Boston, be appointed 

 peiTnanent secretary of the executive committee, and that all 

 communications bo addressed to him. 



Sub-committees were appointed as follows: On press, Messrs. 

 Frye, Dimick, Wardwell; general executive committee, jNIessrs. 

 Frye, Wardwell, Sawyer. Dimick, Stark. This committee was 

 given the full powers to act with reference to the programme, rules, 

 transportation, reception and oihermattersnotspeciallyprovided 

 for. Committee on prizes and soliciting of subscription's, Messrs. 

 Frye, Sawyer, Dimick, Stark, Wardwell, Dickey, Strater, 

 Adams, Kii-kwood, Eager, Davis, Buflinton, Tinker, Allen, Folsom 

 Schaeffer. 



The meeting then adpourncd. There is a genera! feeling of con- 

 fidence among those interested that a British team will surely 

 meet an American team in Boston next June, as a result of the 

 pending negotiations. 



NEWTOWN, N. Y., Nov. 9.— North Side Gun Club of Long 

 Island. Pigeons, 5 ground traps, handicap, shot under club rules. 



Badge, one money prize : 



Barlow 1111111-7 



Manning 0101111—5 



Tlems 1111010-5 



Dr Jamos llllCOO-4 



Merkens 0110100-3 



Tapken 1010111—5 



Terrett Ill 01 11-6 



Lyon llllUO-G 



Duryea 1110111—6 



Riker 1100001-3 



Dr Franz 1111111—7 



Kroger 1110110-5 



10 1 

 1 *x 







u 



1-6 

 0-5 



Ties on 7 ; Barlow 111—3 ; Dr. Franz 011—3. 



SPRINGFIELD GUN CLUB,-The regular shoot of the Spring- 

 field Gun Club was held on Nov. 11, at New Dorp, Staten Island. 

 It was the second shoot for the Dr. Mj liu's cuu, at 25yds. Winner 

 of last shoot, Mr. Jas. T. Davis, handicapped lyd. The foUoAving 

 is the score: 



JasTDa%is 1 



Wm Schvnndt 1 



M Englert 1 



HEnglert 1 . . „ 



* Fell out of bounds, ^ counts for second barrel. 



BROCKTON, Mass., Nov. 16,— A glass ball and elav-pigeon shoot 

 was held to-day upon the grounds of the Brockton Gun Club, the 

 principal event being the badge match for the clay-pigeon teaui 

 badge of Massachusetts State Glass Ball Association, now held by 

 the Brockton team. Results: 



Brocktons. Wellingtons. 



Allen 1111111100—8 Stanton llllinOll— 9 



Baker lllllllUO— 9 Schaefer OlllUOOOl— 6 



Wright 0110100001—4 Buff um Ill 1110011—8 



Bartlett 1111101101—8 Swift 1111101111—9 



Tirrell 0101101011—0-35 Wardwell 1111101111-9-11 



LONDON, Ont., Nov. 16.— A pigeon shooting tournament was 

 held to-day near this city, v.-liich was largely attended. The gold 

 medal was won by John Payne, of Strathroy, wdio killed 8 birds 

 out of 10, J. L. Evans taking second prize, B. Drake third, G. 

 Graham fourth, N. Simpson fifth and ,7. Richardson sixth, each of 

 the last-named four killing 7 birds each. A couple of sweepstakes 

 were improvised and small prizes gi\'en, but the scores were not 

 good. 



BOSTON GLTST CLUB.— The tournament of the Boston Gun Club 

 was held at Wellington on the 18th in spite of dreary conditions 

 of wind and rain. During the contests the -wind was so strong that 

 close holding was an impossibility, and at one time it seemed as 

 though the club's building would collapse. Representative 

 shooters fi'om about every; trap-shooting club in New England 

 were present, all being particularly interested in the shoot for the 

 diamond badge presented by the LoweU Carti-idge Company. In 

 this match Stanton, of the W^ellington Club, pi-oved the winner 

 after an exciting contest, shooting off with Ross of the Massachu- 

 setts Rifle Association on a score of 17 each out of 20. The records 

 in the various matches shot are appended: 



Five clay-pigeons- G. A. Sampson first, W. L, Davis second. 

 Swift tliird and O. Ross fourth. 



Five Peoria blackbirds— C. M. Stark and T. J. Beaudrv divided 

 first, Davis second, Sampson third, Eager fourth. 



Five metal Macomber metal targets— Stark flr ;t, Da\'is and Daw 

 second, Stanton and Mitchell di^dded third, Ross and Webber 

 di^dded fourth. 



Three pair double birds, clay-pigeons— Ross and Swift divided 

 first, Stark and Stanton divided second, Webber third and Davis 

 fourth. 



Seven Peoria blackbirds— Eager first, Stark second, Ross third, 

 Beaudry and Daw divided fourth. 



Five clay-pigeons- Nichols, Keenc and Ross divided first, Stan- 

 ton and Beaudry divided second. Tinker third, Wa,rdwell and 

 Swift divided fourth. 



Seven blackbirds— Ross first, Eager second. Daw and Wardwell 

 divided third, Nichols fourth. 



Seven Peoria blackbirds— Stark^ Stanton and Nichols divided 

 first. Eager second, Wilbur third, H, Swift and J. F. Swift divided 

 fourth. 



Ten clay-pigeons— Ross and Stanton divided first, Wurms sec- 

 ond, Nichofe and Stark di\dded third, Keene and Swift divided 

 fourth. 



Ten Peoria blackbirds— Beaudry and Wilbur divided first, Stark 

 second, Wilson third, Wuvms and Swift divided fourth. 



Seven clay-pigeons— Stanton and Stark first, Beaudry and Eager 

 second, Wilson and Mchola third. Davis fourth. 



Five clay-pigeons— C.Wilbur first. Gore, Swift and Keene second, 

 Wardwell, Beaudry and atantoii third, Webber fourth. 



Three pair Peoria blackbirds— Eager and Stanton lii-st, Tinker 

 and Wm-ms second, Stark and Wardwell third, (rore fourth. 



Five clay-pigeons— Stanton, Swift and ^Vurms first. Eager sec- 

 ond. Stark third, Keene fourth. 



Seven straiglilawaj- Peoi'ias— H. Swift and ^Vilsn^ fii'st, Stan- 

 ton and Wardwell second, Beaudry and r)aTia third, Eager fourth. 



Five clav-pigeona — Wurms and Stark first, II, Swift second, 

 Ross and Gore third. Eager and MitchoU fourlh. 



The '"miss and out ' wfia won liy ;\iessrs. E;i.gcr, SwIft, Beaudry, 

 Keene, Ross and Stanton in the order named. 



Diamond Badge Match.— Individual contest tor Climax diamond 

 badge, at 10 clay-pigeons and 10 Peoria blackbirds: 



Clay-l-'igeous. Blackbirds. 



CM Stark 1011101110 7 ] 101111111— 9— 16 



Sampson 1000011011—5 1100001001- 4— 9 



Eager 1001110101-6 lllOlOlOOl— 6— 1;2 



Ross. 1101111111-9 1110011111- 8-17 



Webber 1101100100-5 1001010011— 3— 8 



Davis 1011000111-6 1110101001- 6-13 



AVardwell , , ,,1010110000-4 HlllOlOll- 8-13 



Beaudry 0111010100-5 1111111111-10-15 



Stanton 1111111011-9 0111011111— 8-17 



Keenc Oil 1101 100-6 0110001100— 4-10 



Wilbur 0010100111-5 1111111 111— 10-15 



Nichols 1011101011-7 0111010011- 6-13 



Wurms 1101111110-8 1111001011— 7—15 



Daw 1011111010-7 1111001111- 8-15 



Wilson 0000111011-5 1010111111- 8—13 



SAvlft 0101001111-0 OlOllOlUl— 7-13 



Mitchell 1111001101-7 1000110111- 6—13 



Longlv 1111101100-7 OliOOOUOl— 5—13 



Tinker , . , 0111110101—7 1100111000— 4-11 



In shooting ofl the ties, 10 birds, Stanton won the badge. 



Address all eommunicatiom to the Forest and Stream Pub. Co. 



Secretaries of canoe clubs are requested to send to Forest and 

 Strea>i tlieir addresses, witii name, membership, signal, etc., of 

 their clubs, and also notices in advance of meetings and races, and 

 report of the same, Canoeists and all interested in canoeing are 

 requested to forward to Forest and Stream their addresses, with 

 logs of cruises, maps, and information concerning their local 

 waters, dravsdngs or desci'iptions of boats and fittings, and all items 

 relating to the sport. 



THE ASSOCIATION AND THE CLUBS. 



THE idea of uniting all the clubs to the Association, as proposed 

 by Mr. Colin Eraser in the Forest and StreA3I of Oct. 38, is 

 one that naturally commends itself as the best for all parties, and 

 many are now in favoi' of it. If would seem best for the Associa- 

 tion to be made up not oidy of individuals devoted to its interests, 

 but of a number of strong clubs working in liai-mouy, and on the 

 other hand a club is far more prosperous as a part of a great or- 

 ganization than if it struggles along in an isolated position. Few 

 will bo disposed to question the desirability of the proposed nation, 

 but its practicability at ijresent is a far different matter. 



Most canoeists know that in the hrst year of the A. C. A. the 

 membership was partly by clubs, the leading ones joining the 

 Association in a body. This plan v\'as soon found to work badly, 

 as there were some memlicrs in each club T\'ho declined to join the 

 Association, and whose dues were consequently paid by the club, 

 a most unsatisfactory state of atTairs, as these unwilling members 

 were of no value to the A. C. A., and the p;iymcnt of their dues 

 became a burden on others. A gencial objection was made on the 

 part of the club.s, and at the second meeting tlic constitution was 

 so changed as to recognize individuals only. This plan has worked 

 very well, but with many large and powerful clubs interested ir 

 A. C. A. work and foremost at the meets, it would seem as though 

 their existence should be officially recognized, and t heir aid a? 

 organized bodies rather than as chance groups of individuals 

 should be enlisted by the Association. Some of them, the Mohican 

 for instance, have become powerful factors in the A. 0. A,, and 

 yet they do not appear officially in the records. 



If the question were onlj^ between indi\ idual membership on 

 the one hand and a membership by clubs on the other, it would 

 be simple enough; but the trouble is that there must for a long 

 time at least remain a targe contingent of non-club men, v.dtose 

 interests must be equalized with those of the clubs. To say that 

 all of these should join clubs is very well, but many of them are 

 beyond the reach of clubs and must remain so, while others prefer, 

 for rea.sons of their own, to retain a fancied independence and to 

 belong to no club. Again there are clubs all of whose members 

 will not join the Association, and which consequently cannot 

 join in a body, so those who wish must join simply as individuals. 



NATiat is wanted is to receive the hearty cooperation of as many 

 clubs as possible, offering some inducement to them to join, and 

 at the same time to protect the rights of every non-club man, 

 without forcing him to feel that he must joina clut) on the one 

 hand or lose his voice to a certain extent on the other. This in- 

 tention has been shown in the only transaction in which the clubs 

 are now recognizfd by the A. C. A., the nomination of officers. 

 The representation on the nominating committee at the meets is 

 made up of one member from each club with three members at 

 large who are not club men. On a small scale this plan works 

 very well, but it would be very difiicult to apply it to the Associa- 

 tion generally. If all the A. C. A. members belonged to clubs as 

 well the voting might he by clubs instead of individuals, and this 

 would possess the great merit of giving a voice to every man, 

 whether present or not, as in the main the vote of each club, cast 

 by the one representativ^e present at the meet, would express the 

 views of its members. This would at once secure what is impera- 

 tively needed, a feeling that a man is a part of the A. C. A., and 

 has a voice in its councils, whether or no he attended a meet. 

 The question of representation of large and small clubs might be 

 arranged by giving a single V' ote to each club of say 15 men or 

 less, with an extra vote for every 15 added, putting a direct pre- 

 mium on a large membership and so stinmlating each member to 

 bring new men into his club. 



The adoption of the scheme of divisions now in progress is 

 already working to extend the A. C. A. in new localities. Smali 

 clubs have grown up tmiiotlced, no members being present at the 

 meets, but the news of these gatherings, both annual and local, 

 has spread widely, and the new men want to join them. There 

 have been more local meets this year than ever before, and even 

 now we hear rumors of small meets to be held next spring in new 

 localities and by men thus far unknown. Not only is a local 

 Canadian meet assured, and a grand salt-water meet of Nevv York 

 and New England canoeists, but a meet is talked of on the Passaic 

 River, and perhaps another on the Potomac. All of these act in 

 two ways to recruit the clubs in each locality through the publicitv 

 given to canoeing and the desire to attend such meets regularly"; 

 and also by awakening an increased interest among the older 

 members in friendly meetings and inter-club contests of all kinds, 

 whether at a local or the A. C. A. meet. These changed conditions 

 make it possible to secure a much larger club membership than in 

 1880-81, as most canoeists now are willing to join tlie .\ssoeiation 

 as soon as they see that while they cannot go to it, it is so extend- 

 ing as to come to them in the form of frequent local or division 

 meets, and an A. C. A. meet near at hand once in tliree or four 

 years. 



Probably in two or three years, if canoeing maintains its present 

 promising growth, there will be a very large number of clubs 

 whose members are all joined to the A. C. A., and which can take 

 part in a scheme of club representation; but this state of affairs 

 does not exist at present, and it is difiicult to see how a club repre- 

 sentation could prevail and yet giv-e a fair and equal voice to every 

 unattached member. 



The first scheme of the organizers of the Association, a central 

 body composed of clubs and individuals, was crude and incom- 

 plete, but the fate chauges make possible a more perfect system. 

 The Association itself is subdivided into various geographloal 

 divisions, each under its vice-commodore; these, in turn, are made 

 up of memliers who are largely united in smaller bodies, the clubs. 

 Thus a perfect system of government is possible, the clubs with 

 their commodores forming the divisions under their A. C. A. vice- 

 commodores, all tmited in one national association under a commo- 

 dore. This is in accordance v\ith natural lavs s and the sooner the 

 plan can be put into operation the better; but as we have pointed 

 out, tliere are obstacles which caimot be avoided all at once. "Slow 

 but sure has been" the motto of the A. C. A. in making changes, 

 and in aocordance with that policy the scheme of divisions is now 

 working itself out smoothly and without jar or friction. When it 



is fairly complete the plan of uniting the clubs must foUow, but 

 not until then. The subject is as yet a difficult one and worthy of 

 the consideration of all triends of the A. G. A.; but judging from 

 the successful manner in which d ifllcult matters have been han- 

 dled in tlie past, there is every ground for confidence that the 

 matter will be successfully dealt with in good season. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I haven't been to an "experience meetin'," as they used to call 

 them out West (my old home) for some time, but aii earnest and 

 careful perus.al of your canoeing correspondence in the last few 

 numbers has awakened a feeling witlun me very mucli akin to 

 what one experiences under the influence of one of those good 

 old-time affairs. And like tlip timid ones vvlio wrestle with tliem- 

 selves so long before tJicy find courage to speak out in meeting, 

 I've "been a-rastlin' and a-hesitatiu' aud ;i-doiibtin'," until seeing 

 as how the old tins don't seem to be si-gett ing very much comfort 

 out of their communings witii each other, I've struggled on to my 

 feet I'f/r the purpose of casing my mind, if notliing else come of it. 



1 didn't get (n the meet at Grindstone this year, and so have re- 

 ceived all uiy information as to what went on there at second 

 hand from the newspapers. There was a Washington canoeist 

 there, though, hut as lie is one of the old school of paddlers, and 

 won't or can't tell us anjihing about it except wJiat a glorious 

 time he had, he might as well have stayed away, for all the bene- 

 fit his visit does the rest of ns. So I'm going to tell you just how 

 the meet and its results appear to us who are not A. C. A. 's— 

 haven't seen the crack racers nnd don't know any of the big men 

 wt".o sail them, or who run the Association, 



First, I think the establishment of branch divisions is a good 

 idea, and if a few of your good sailors with their fast craft will 

 come on here next summer and help us get up a meet on the Polo- 

 mac or Chesapeake, .vou'd find pleutj' of material to work with. 

 The neareyi, canoeist to the sonth of us is a regular out-and-outer 

 who li\-es at Staunton, Va., 1 think, and lias appeared in print 

 more than once. Put ''"iiginia and Maryland have numbers of 

 young men who woultl come into the ranks if an annual meet was 

 establislied witliin reasonable distance of their homes. On a 

 recent cruise, wiien tlie Avrifor, in company with tliree other mem- 

 bers of the Washington C. C., was v^^(^rking along down the trail of 

 the dear old Coot, we ran inshore al Old Point and into a whole 

 nest of admiiing and enthusiastic young men, who were all ready 

 to buy canoes and start olf at once, to j iidge from their expression's 

 of interest and the number of qnostions they asked. They were 

 most of them stopping at the elegant Hygeia, and the rough cos- 

 tumes of the canoeists contrasted strongly with their baud-box 

 appearance, but they didn't seem to mind "iiiat much, and had it 

 not been for the big rollers I he!ie\^e several of them would have 

 been willing to try the reach with us across to Willoughby Spit, 

 \\iiich we were aliout to make. On inquiry 1 foimd they were 

 mostly Virginians, from Norfolk, Peter,sburg, Richmond, Lynch- 

 burg luid other places, all of which places have good, and some 

 delightful water for cruising. So if any self-consecrated A. C. A. 

 men feel like coming this v^-ay next spring or summer, we will 

 insure tliem a good time, and they can also do a little missionary 

 work in a promising held at tlie same time. 



In this connection I'd like to, if 1 may be so bold, indorse what 

 Mr. Colin Eraser says in lis recent letter about club membership 

 of the A. C. A. We have two gc" ■.i-sizeii clubs here — about fifteen 

 members in each— but 1 don't think a single member of them has 

 united with the A. C. A. since these clubs were organized. The 

 man who went to Grindstone this summer happened along in a 

 Canadian trip and was made a welcome and happy guest; and an- 

 other member. Lorna, joined the A. C. A. before he came to 

 Washington. But tlie trouble is Grindstone is too far for us, and 

 the trip with boats takes more time and money than most of us 

 can spare. If we belonged as clubs we would doubtless make a 

 strong effort to be represented, but as it is, we don't feel much in- 

 centive that way. 



Now we'll go about and try you on the other tack, and I'll try 

 to make this a short leg. Pecowsic— decapitating that word you'll 

 find a suggestive phrase ow-sic, or cockneyieed, hovv-sic. And how 

 sick she has made somebody. Not you, Mr. Editor, nor "R. W. 

 G.," or the redoubtable lad with his Lassie; but somebody— at 

 least it looks that way to a greeny. >Jobody would hav-e tiie 

 cranky three-master for a gift apparently, but all of us— I beg 

 >our pardon for including myself, but I'm with you in the wish- 

 would give our old boots to go to vvind'rd of her, as "R. vv . G." 

 puts it. Seems to me vviiile everybody is looking for the coming 

 canoe, it might be well to slick a small-sized pin down somewhere 

 about the neigiiborliood of that boat. 



Is ow we've been sort of bushwhackers dowm here in our canoeing. 

 Not being A. C. A.'s we built canoes regardless of limits, regula- 

 tions or anything else but our owm sweet wiUs. Our canoes are 

 mostly all 16ft. long and over, and from 33 to iOin. in beam. And 

 we have centerboards, heav^y and liglit, and keels— rockered and 

 otherwise— and all sorts of rigs, Mohican, lateen, leg-o'-mutton 

 and sprits; and .several of us carry (I must confess it) jibs, for ap- 

 pearance sake and other reasons (?), and one of us has a canoe cut- 

 ter, that is, cutter-rigged, with mainsail, staysail or jib and jib- 

 topsail, and leoibs. of iron on her keel. Aud among them all is a 

 little 16ft.x33in. V-shaped canoe, that threatens to throw you out 

 of her every time you get in, and is sailed by a, quiet, lame little 

 fellow, who can't swim a stroke, that has gone through the hard- 

 est cruises and the biggest blows, along with her flat-bottomed 

 and hcav-j'-keeled and boarded companions, without shipping near 

 .so much water as they, and never once spilling her crew, and al- 

 wa>'s manages to get to camp among tlie first arrivals. 



1 think I've read that the Pecowsic is V-shaped, have I not? 

 Well, if she is, the pin can be stuck somewhere about there in my 

 opinion. 



I've just come in to-night from a little spin over the course with 

 our commodore in his big, flat-floored, Mohican-rigged canoe, (with 

 a 3in, keel by the way) and as we had lots of the peculiar flawy 

 wind that is found sometimes in the neighborhood of our boat- 

 house, we had, as the Commodore expressed it, a llvelv time of it. 

 Considering the temperature of the water on this ROth "of October, 

 I don't like to liave such a lively time at this season of the year. 

 Who's afraid? Neither of us, hut we're both married men with 

 families, and we're just educating our wives up to the appreciative 

 pohit, and an involuntary bath with the possibilities of resulting 

 colds, coughs, or worse ills, is not to be thought of just now. 



Tlie moral of all of which is— might not it be possible that skim- 

 ming dishes for sailing canoes vvill have to follow in the wa,ke 

 of their larger tyiie, that even you, Mr, Editor, think, must a la 

 Chinese, go ? Skipper. 



TORONTO C. C. RECORD. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



Iclonot think in general that the average record prov-ea any- 

 thing, but if others take advantage of it, it is only fair to point 

 out by the following extract from the Toronto Glohc how the Tor- 

 onto C. C. stands: 



The Toronto Club sent four members down and they returned 

 with five first prizes, three seconds and one fourth. This fourth 

 prize is probably the most important of the lot, as it means that 

 Mr. W. G. McKendrick, secretary of Toronto C. C, was fourth in 

 a list of sixty-one entries for all the record races, obtaining a rec- 

 ord of 33,38 in five races out of a possible 50. The first prize man 

 had 30.76. 



. , Points. Races. 



WG McKendrick S3 38 5 



MF Johnson 20.00 3 



W A Leys 17.28 5 



D B Jacques , , , 15.73 3 



Total 86.38 16 



Or an average of 21.. 57. 



Average 



Men. Points. Races, per man. 



Toronto 4 86.28 15 31.37 



BrockviUe 6 83.04 13 13.34 



Brooklyn 4 73.03 13 18.36 



Rochester 6 70.69 13 U.78 



Mohican 5 58.34 8 11.65 



Royal Militarv College 3 43.68 7 14.56 



Nev,' York 3 36.78 7 13.26 



Hartford 3 40.85 5 20.43 



Messrs. Le> s Hud Jacques also won the Lachine challenge cups 

 for best and best open tundem canoes at the races of the Lachine 

 Club, which took place just before the American Canoe Associa- 

 tion meet. B. 



CAW AS CANOES.— Cloverdale, Sonoma County, Cal., Nor. 3. 



—Editor Forcift and Stream: Have been for the greatest part of 

 my life an enthusiastic canoeist and camper and read with much 

 pleasure your paper. In your columns I have seen more than 

 once inquiries about canvas canoes and would suggest they write 

 to the Ontario Canoe Company, of Peterboro, Ontario, Canada^ 

 vviio build the most shapel.s' and durable canvas canoes to he found 

 and which have made trips ot hundreds of miles on such riv'crs as 

 the Saskatchewan, coming through all sorts of hardships safely. 

 Hoiiing to again find myself on the beautiful Canadian lakes or 

 somevvliere w^here there is water enough for cauoes.— Geokge B, 



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