Dec. 3, 1886.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



37S 



jiigly good scores. In fhe champion match for the Morton medal 

 which is shot for yearly. Corporal Hem-y Jordan Avas the winner, 

 making 54 points out of a possible 75, at distances of 100. 200 and 

 300yds., w:tTi a Remineton carliine. The second prize was won by 

 Private McHukIi. who made 48 points. The first prize in the hat- 

 lerv match at distances of -'00 and 300yds., was won by Driver G. 

 E. Kflllv, Avi.o nindf -11 points. Private McHugh also took second 

 prize ill tins matcJi. scoring 111 pciiuts. Ex-Lieutenant Henderson 

 won ftrst prize in the honorary meinbers' match, and e.v-Privato 

 Baldwin the second. Oat of the 13 mcmhcrs who sruit won prizes, 

 consisting of silverware. Private Clias. Buhlor ^vas presented with 

 the leather medal for making tlio lowest score. Twentj -i'otir 

 Tnembers of Company D,_l'lth Regiment, of Brooklyn, under oom- 

 mand of Gaiitaln A. D. xjiraberger, also held an annual shoot on 

 the range. The winners are Sergeant E. W. Castwelh First .Ser- 

 geant Marsh, Coi-poral E, J. Tugmann and I. W. Frederick, 



TIICMASTON, Conn.— Scores for Nov. Cr. 



E Thomas - 8 6 9 9 .'i 8 8 10 « 1-79 



f4Canfield.. 898948898 5-76 



GALcmmon.... : 10 !) 5 G 7 5 10 1 8 5-69 



C F Williams. 9 4 5 5 7 7 4 8 7 8— (U 



GPNor!.!) 3 G 6 10 5 5 6 5 4 7-tiO 



Scores for Nov. 20. 



E Thomas 8 10 5 8 10 9 10 5 8 9-82 



GALemmon 864768476 7-63 



The waather conditions of Nov. 25 were very had, it being cold 

 with a heavy rain falling part of the time. Last slioot of the 

 season: 



fJALemmon 10 96779987 7—76 



G C Canlield 7 7 6 7 8 9 9 8 7 5-73 



WHDimbar 6666 10 96 10 fi 7-72 



E Thomas 7 9 8 7 5 6 7 6 8 7-70 



HCaniicld 746 5 67748 6—60 



FA Perkins 5 46864865 6-.'i8 



AYILMiNGTON", Nov. 32.— Two matches were shot by the Wil- 

 mington Rifle Club at 800yds. with the Massachusetts target. 

 First Match.-Ofl-haud. 



CHetnol 10 10 11 8 9 9 11 9 11 12-100 



H B Seeds 11 10 10 13 10 10 7 11 9 8— 98 



.TB BelL 9 7 3 10 8 8 11 7 8 6- 80 



E M Clark 7 11 9 9 9 2 6 9 12 4- 75 



W A Eacon 8 7 6 7 6 9 7 7 7 4- G8 



Second Match.— With Rest. 



HB Seeds 10 11 10 13 11 11 12 11 11 11-110 



JBEell 11 12 10 10 10 13 11 11 11 12-110 



C Heiuel 11 11 9 10 11 12 9 11 12 12— lOS 



J E New-man 12 11 10 11 10 10 10 10 10 13—106 



E :.I Clark 7 9 12 12 10 11 11 9 11 9-101 



W A Bacon 10 10 10 8 13 10 10 11 10 9—101 



Nov. 2,").— Oving to the inclemency of the weather to-day only 

 one of tlie "A'ilniingtOTi Riile Clnb's raatchca was attempted and it 

 was not finished. There were several entries for the Hemirigton 

 i-lfle, residtLDg in foiir tie:3 on 14, which will be decided whr-n the 

 matches for the other prizes -will be shot. The following are the 

 scores otit of a possible 15 points at 200yds. on Creedmoor large L.- 

 John Scott 54.1—14 ,1 erome B Bell 45S--13 



Charles Heine!, Jr 554—14 James E Newman -^io— 12 



Samuel J Newman 554—14 V,'illiam O'Connor 444—12 



Ellis M Clark 545—14 Howard Simpson 54B— 12 



Williatn A Bacon 441—13 Frank Brinton, 3^4—11 



William F Seeds 444—13 Charles Heinel, Jr 33.5—11 



Henry B Seeds 4:>4— 13 



Company F, Delaware IJ. G., in target practice at Schnetzen 

 Park this afternoon, made the following scores at 200yds., Creed- 

 moor target : 



Capt Condon 33.523— 15 Corp McBride o2->3-"— 14 



Lier.l Harkins 3.3,S32— 12 Coi-p Dunn 023."0— 7 



Lieut Glynn 33348-15 Pvt Munda 4*5:13-18 



Sergt Frederick 3:3333—13 Pvt Tyner 03232— 9 



Serart T Brennan 32033—13 Pvt Johnson 02223— 8 



Serct P Brennan 03433—11 Pvt Kelly 0-3233— 9 



Corp McConnell 0323S- 9 Pvt Rics 20303— 6 



Corp Megary 20:323— 9 Pvt Muldoon 00333- 7 



Corp Brennan 00232— 7 P\'t Brown 0222:3 - 9 



Corp Keenan 22302— 9 Pvt Hagerty 20232- 9 



THE TRAP. 



8«»r<j,s for ptihltcation s/iowW he made out on the pridted NanKs 

 prcparfd hjj the F')re.?t aud Strfarn, am! furnished ffratis to club 

 secretaries. Corrc^ixtvd-cnts who favor us witJi chi-h scores are par- 

 ticularly rcqiicntcd to write on one aide of the paper only. 



OSKOLOOSA, la., Nov. 26.— Oskoloosa Gun Club's Thanksgiving 

 shoot, 5 live pi.treons: 



Smith : 01111-4 Regan 10111-4 



Dougherty 11111-5 Golightly 10110-3 



MeiulenlKill 11011-4 Swearingen OlUO-3 



Harrington 11111—5 Carroll Hill— 5 



Baxter 10111-4 Wilson 11111-5 



Harrington first, MendenUoll second, Swearingen third. 



Match at 5 live pigeons: 



Harrington 11101—4 Swearingen 01111—4 



Wilson 01)011—3 MendenhoU llUOl— 3 



Brown 11110-4 Golightly 11100-3 



Baxter : 11100-3 Templeton 11111—5 



Jackson 10111-4 Regan 11101-4 



Janney 11111—5 Obrien 11100—3 



Templeton and Jannev first, Jackson second Mendenholl third. 



BROOKLYN, No\'. S6.— The Long Island Gun Club held its regu- 

 lar shoot to-day. Only 9 members were present, but those present 

 performed \'ery weU. Out of 78 birds shot at .51 \vere killed. H. 

 Knebel won first prize, Brower second and Donnelly third. The 

 full score is as follows: 



H Knebol, 37yds 1101111-8 Brower, 33yds 1110110—5 



Arkhurst, 31yds 1011001-4 Topping, 2Syds 1001011-4 



R Moore, 34vds 1000010—2 Cameron, 25yds 1000011—3 



Donnelly, 31 yes 0010111-4 Lennon, ;31yds 1010011—4 



Yrooman, S3 yds llOlOUl— 4 



Ties for third prize: Arkhux'st 4, Donnelly 0,Vroomau 5. Referee, 

 J. Jones. 



RIVERSIDE CLUB.— Topsham, Mc. — Thanksgiving shoot, 

 weather very disagreeable, only four shooters present. Scores at 

 35 clays, bats and blue rocks, for three badges : 



W Crocker lOOuOlOOlllOlOOOl 01111110 - 13 



A L Goud 0101901011011010110011111—15 



A E Hall 0110001111111010110011010-15 



C Goud 10111111111 llOlllUOllllO-21 



Ties on 15: A. L. Goud. .11000111 ; A. E. Hall. .0011010. O. Goud 

 first, A. L. Hall second, W. Crocker third. 



WASHINGTON HEIGHTS GUN OLTTB.-Thanksgi\ing Day, 

 club grounds. One hundred and sixty-eighth street and Twelfth 

 avenue, live birds, 3 traps, 26yds., weather threatening, whiclr 

 dotibtless had something to do with the slim attendance: 



Veitch 1111100000— 5 EH Fox 1111101110-8 



Geo Snooks lUlllllll— 10 C Terwilliger 1111110100— 7 



Dux UllOlllll- 9 Harrison mUlllll- 10 



Ties did not shoot off, as other pressing engagements called the 

 members elsewhere. — E. H. P. 



CINCINNATI, O., Nov. 27.— A tnrkey shoot was held under the 

 auspices of the Cincinnati Independent Shooting Club on their 

 gi-ounds Thanksgiving Day. The shooting commoiced at 10 A, M. 



CondeRj Frank Baecker, Fred Strunk, Sam Condell, C. W. Eckert, 

 A. D. Whitlock, C. W. McFee and Reno. The new Liigowsky clay- 

 pigeon N. 3 vnta clay tongue was used; it was pronounced by all to 

 be the best artificial target yet produced. It flew in magnificent 

 style and out of 850 throvvn 6 only broke in the ti-ap. This clay 

 tongue is burnt solidly with the target itself, and is thrown from 

 any of the old Ligowsky traps by inserting small rubber disks in 

 the tongue or clamp. This improvement will be welcomed by all 

 trap shotS) as it removes the only objection ever urged against the 

 original Ligowsky target, viz., the softening of the glued tongue, 

 as it substitutes in place thereof a fixed unremovable clay tongue. 

 Over 75 shooters participated in the trial, all of whom expressed 

 themselves as surprised and delighted -with the improvement.- H 

 F. ROBINSON. Pres. Cin. Inpt. Gun Club. 



DEAN TROPHY MA_TCH.-The match for the Dean trophv, 

 representing the clay -pigeon championship of Kings county, N. Y''"., 



Wind blew across the grounds, blowing the bii'ds in all directions, 

 making it difficttlt for high scores. Mr. James Kirbv, referee: Mr.' 

 R. H. Thomas and William Van Horn, .judges. The trophy was 

 won by Mr, F. M. Eames, of Bay Ridge, with the score 44 out' of -50; 

 Mr. S. H. Duryea, Bay Ridge, second, ol out of -30. Mr. O. Heingke, 

 same place, third. Tue shoot passed off very pleasantly. A large 

 number witnessed the match, all joining in giving a rousing vote 

 of thanks to Mr. James Dean for presenting so beautiful a medal 

 and. furnishing so grand a. day's sport.— E.D. W.aejeman (Sec. B. 



K* G. ax 



MIDDLESEX VS. ESSEX.-Danellen, N. J. Nov. Z3.~Editor 

 Forest and Stre<r,m: Will you kindly allow me space to answer an 

 article from the pen of Jacob Pentz? I neglected to state in my 

 article last week "Middlesex vs. Essex," tliat Mr. Pentz was 

 referee for that day. Mr. Pentz states that he is an ex-member of 

 the "Essex Gun Club," which probably accounts for hhs plain 

 '"bias" in favor of that club. Had this fact been known before the 

 match Mr. Pentz would not have been chosen to fill that "unsatis- 

 Cactory position," as there w'ere many well-lcnown gentlemen 

 fri ini neutral clubs who would have aC'ed had they been requested. 

 Ev ery one tliat knows W. F. Quimby (and c.-ei'y one does that 

 faces the traps around New Y^ork) will be 



surprised to hear that 



he made a noi'sv couch, certain it is that no one believes it. Of the 

 twenty-nine "challenges made by the Middlesex members, mostly 

 by one Uiokeus," aiKriiiit one challenge by the Esse.x members, 

 Mr. PentB does not state whether eiv not he scored the twenty-nine 

 birds dead and the uno bird lo.^t. Mr. Dickens's challenges were all 

 made against Mr. Crirringtou's gnn, which, every one but the 

 referee could see, wn« nUv^ e his elbow nearly every time he went 

 toth?.scors. I St;.: . ' ! , k thit tli ' icr:.roc's daci^ions woreall 

 unquestioned, hi; > ; u c further, tiia.l many of them called 



forth smiles from o, ^ < lators.-Dx.NA.MrrE. 



THE ALGONQUIN GUN CLUB, of New York city, will hold 

 their annual meeting to-day (Dec. 2), after which a banquet will 

 be served. 



Those who preach, lecture, declaim or sing, v\ill and do find 

 Halo's Honey of Horehound and Tar the speediest I'estorative of 

 the voice in cases of hoarseness. It cures coughs and sore throats 

 rapidly and completely. Sold by all druggists. Pike's Tooth- 

 ache DKors cure in one minute.— .Adi'. 



Eight Mn,LioN Dollahs Paid in Bknefits, under general 

 accident policies, in the Travelers Insurance Company, of Hart- 

 ford. Every business man should have a policy.— ^ ((r. 



OURSELVES AS OTHERS SEE US. 



THE skipper of the Clara, who has lately returned home, gives 

 his views on .Ymerican yachts as follows to the Glasgow 

 Herald. His remarks are hardly complimentary, but there is 

 enough truth about them to make them interesting: 



"Captain Jolm Barr, of Gourock, has just returned from Amer- 

 ica, v\ nere he has been racing with great snccess the Clyde-built 

 20-ton cut ler Clara, and has been fortunate in obtaining a great 

 deal of insigiit into the sport of yacht racing as enjoyed on the 

 otiier side of the Atlantic. Mr. Bai'r's reputation as a vvell-knowu 

 and clever racing yacht captain gives to the information he has 

 picked up a critical accuracy, which for the first time will enable 

 our own yachting men to understand the present aspects of 

 American yacht racing, and still further increase the interesi so 

 rapidly spreading in the American growth of the sport. iMr. Barr 

 explains thr-t within the last tw^o years yachting has made great 

 strides on the American seaboard, and his testimony toward the 

 entlmsiasm is \-erified by the fact that at one regatta in which he 

 raced the Clara the number of yachts of all sizes entered to race 

 was about 400, of which crowd 2.30 started. And this fleet was not 

 made up of any sort of craft, i)Ut included only yachts fitted for a 

 likely contest. But neither American yachts nor the handling of 

 them has given Mv. Barr cause for surprise. He owns .a large 

 class of centerboard boats, big and little, and canvassed occasion- 

 ally ingeniously and often outrageously, fly down the wind like 

 an open umbrella, but on the vnnd are no good whatever to any 

 British racing yacht unless over a mill-pond cour.so. And besides 

 being useless m a seaway, the same class of boats are most 

 dangerous, lu all the smaller class of centerboards Barr was 

 amused to see the crews occupied in holding sheets in hand to ease 

 away in case of an upset, and in the larger class of centerboards 

 axes are kept at hand to cut across the main sheet in case of a.nv 

 dangerous squall. For it is a peculiarity of the centcrtjoard that, 

 laid over beyond a certain angle, it will not lull no in the wind 

 and becomes wholly unmanageable. In proof of the danger of tlte 

 btuld, Barr saw a, centerboard of large tonnage in which sheet, 

 halliards, rigging, had all been cut away to save horiu a squall. 

 He had a sigiit of the Mohawk schooner, which looked as large 

 and comfortable as the Selene, and was struck (o learn she had 

 capsized while lying at her anchor with her sails up, and had 

 drowned a cabinf ul of people. More or less in connect ion with the 

 dangers attendant on the centerboard form of boat. Captain Earr 

 heard of thirty cases of drowning during the past yacht racing 

 season on the American coast. While the opinion formed as to 

 the needless hazard to life occa.sioned by the centerboard fashion 

 seems founded on good evidence, Barr had exceptional opportun- 

 ity of finding out that the Mayflower, the latest outcome of the 

 American model, is 'a poor tool' in a breeze and not good enough 

 tottu'u to windward against a Clyde 20-tonner. In^a long turn 

 to windward down the coast from Boston to New London, C!lar a 

 came up v\ith the successful champion Mayflower going the 

 same course, and had a famous opporrunity of finding out the 

 value of the centerboard build turning to windward. Clara 

 had topmast housed and double-reef down, while Mayflower 

 was under staysail and had two reefs in mainsail. Clara had no 

 difticulty in coming up with Mayflower, both being close-hauled, 

 and with a board or two Clara weathered Mayflower. Tl le two had 

 the wind dead ahead with a steep, short sea vvhUe workinr? the pas- 

 sage inside the Nantucket Shoals, and Clara was still dropping May- 

 flower astern, wiien Barr's boat carried away lier bowsprit shrouds; 

 Clara Ijad to be hove in the wind for repairs, while Mayflower 

 coming along again took the lead. Clara, all right again, followed 

 and the twenty had again no difficulty in passing and weathering 

 the Mayflower. This centerboard seemed to flndihe iireeze ratJtcr 

 hard for her, for she shortly afterward fetched t.lie slielter of an 

 outlying anchorage, where she remained. Meantime Clara snugged 

 down another reef, and under throe-reefed mainsail and jib^was 

 held on her course for New London. Clearing the Shoals, the 

 Clara had the open fetch and was getting knocked about badlv m 

 the head sea. But Barr kept her going, and f otrnd on getting into 

 harbor Clara had carried away most of her headgear, and along 

 with it about 13ft. of her rail forward. Of course Mayflower, six 

 or seven times the tonnage of Clara, if she had been \vorth anv- 

 thing in such weather, ought to have left. Clara everv mile she 

 sailed, instead of vv^hich she was getting dropped by the little 

 craft. And Mayflower was making very bad weather of it, plung- 

 ing head and shoulders into the head sea, and filling her deck with 

 every icend she gav'e. With little Clara coming up on her, Barr 

 thought iSIayflower a very 'lame duck,' and would have many 

 times preferred to cross the Atlantic in his own small cutter. 

 Clara on other occasions made a signal example of the best Ameri- 

 can centerboards, and through the American racing season beat 

 everything that was entered against her. The American center- 

 board Cinderella, built last winter to beat Ulara, was the only 

 really dangerous rival to the Clyde boat, and, besides being about 

 Clara's length, was, according to British rule, of considerable 

 more tonnage. Cinderella had her lead ballast outside, and, 

 although a centerboai-d, was deep in the body, and somewhat of a 

 compromise between the American and British build. Perhaps 

 Athlon was the next most dangerous rival to Clara, and being so, 

 a private match was arranged between the three for a sweepstake 

 at Larchmont by tho Larchmont Club. This club appears excep- 

 tional in some of its features, for while its members have no 

 objection to matches on Sunday, the club has a rule against square- 

 headed topsails. No doubt a breach of the Fourth Commandment 

 is not so likely to lessen the roU of the club as the capsize of a 

 centerboard; but the crew of Clara did not at first comprehend 

 this view. A Sunday match was sailed between the three boats, 

 and Clara gave both an easy drubbing, arriving 8 minutes ahead. 

 Clara altogether sailed eleven matches, and won eleven first 

 prizes— a very sufficient proof that the British model had it pretty 

 much her ov\n.i waj' against all the varieties of American models 

 entered against her, centerboards included. The Americans con- 

 fess to be thoroughly beaten by Clara, but allege the British model 

 is only superior up to 30 tons, a comfortable and wMmsical assur- 

 ance the coming International contest is pretty certain to dissipate. 

 The ability with which Captain Barr sailed Clara no doubt abetted 

 the result, but the honor is shared by young William Fife, of 

 Fairlie, who built and designed Clara for Mr. George Clark, of 

 Paisley, Before Captain Barr left America he was congratulated 

 on having been selected for the yacht that is to be built on the 

 Clyde for the coming International contest, and no doubt the 

 example Clara has made of the American yachts quite vindicates 

 the selection made. 



"Not the least interesting incident of Captain Barr's American 

 visit was getting a sight of the famous old schooner yacht Ameri- 

 ca, which arrived at Cowes in the sumther of 1851, and captured 

 the Queen's Cup, o\-er the possession of which trophv these tater- 

 nationctl contests have arisen. Bai-r thought the old craft a fine- 

 looking schooner with y. beantifully-modeled bow, but rather full 

 aft and boxy in the quarters. He saw her sailing about in a light 

 breeze, and on even keel she was going very fast. Indeed, tke I 



America had been sailing so fast alongside ISIayflower before the 

 latter got into trim that it was a question whether or not the old 

 schooner might not be as good as any American yacht to protect 

 the cup she had originally won. Not many Clyde yachtsmen will 

 remember wiiat a stir the America's success in beating the best 

 English yachts made. Almost every British yacht of any note was 

 lengthened by the bow, and bluff bows so much approv^ed of were 

 everywhere condemned. Long bows were given to yachts build- 

 ing, and the sudden revolution gave rise to exaggerations and 

 absurd failures." 



MEASUREMENT RULES ABROAD. 



f^PHE following from the Field will show that the measurement 

 JL committee of the Y. R. A. have reported in favor of the altenia- 

 tiv^e sail area rule in use for two seasons past, and that the report 

 has been accepted by the council. It will come before the Asso- 

 ciation at the general meeting Dec. 14: 



A meeting of the council was held at the Royal London Y. C, 

 Savile-row, Xov. IT- There were present the Marquis of Exeter 

 (in the cliair). Col. Leach, Mr. C. W. Prescott-Westcar, Mr. Francis 

 Taylor, M. P., Mv. (x. B. Thompson, Mr. W. G. .l.ameson, Mr. W. 

 Baden-Powell, Mr. E. R. TatcheU, Mr. H. Crawford, Mr. A. Man- 

 ningj Mr. Frank Willan, Mr. John Scott, Mr. James Reid and Sir 

 William Porwood. 



The measurement committee brou.ght up their report as follows : 



"To the Council of tlie Y^acht Racifig Association. Gentlemen— 

 In accordance with your resolution passed on Oct. 13, to consider 

 (l) the rules of measurement now in force, and to suggest any 

 alterations :n the same which may appear likely to have an 

 advantageous effect on yacht building and yacht racing; (2) to 

 report upon the present classification of yachts by tonnage and 

 sail-.arca; (3) to suggest such alterations or new rides of measure- 

 ment or clas.iflcation as may seem desirable. 



^^'e have to report that, to enable us to thoroughly investigate 

 these subjects, we have obtained the evidence of Messrs. A. 

 Richardson, G. L. Watson, C. P. Clayton, D. Kemp, and W. Fife, 

 Jr., naval architects; we have also obtained by letter the views or 

 other naval architects and builders, iucltiding Mr. Beavor Webb, 

 Mr. R. E. Froude, Mr. Wm. Fife, Sr., Mr. Arthur Payne, Mr. E. 

 Wilklns. 



The present Y''. R. A. tonnage rule was introduced in 1881 in sub- 

 stitution for the Thames riue, the object sought in making the 

 cjianKe being to induce yacht designers and builders to use more 

 beam in proportion to len.gth. This object' has not been attained, 

 and although in the larger classe s extreme proportions have not, 

 so far, been reached, yet the tendency is to proceed in that direc- 

 tion. The type of yacht engendered by the rule is extremely cost- 

 ly to produce and maintain, and the latitude which the rule per- 

 mits of increasing speed by continued additions to thelead ballast 

 and sail area, gives a very short racing life even to a successful 

 yacht. Y'our committee is of opinion (shared in by all the wit- 

 nesses) that it is not likely any alteration of the present rule would 

 bo of a satisfactory character. 



The B and C classes were introduced to promote racing between 

 ex-racers and cruisers, and heavy time allowances were arranged 

 to prevent A class yachts entering in the classes. The B class has 

 r.ot been found advantageous and the committee recommend that 

 it be expunged. The C class has afforded a considei able amount 

 of sport, but the hea o' inter-class allowances have enabled C class 

 yachts to compete against the A class with marked success. As 

 this is highly detrimental to A class racing, your committee 

 recommend that the inter-class time allowance he abolished. 



In considering a new rule for the rating of yachts, your com- 

 mittee have been anxious to preserve the present type of yacht as 

 being peculiarly adapted to British waters and to guard against 

 the building of racing macliines. At tho outset they examined 

 proposals to measure the hull only, and to measure the sails only. 

 * * * After a thorough examination of these proposals your 

 committee concluded that to prevent exaggerated proportions in 

 the hull or sail spread, both should be included in the rating. A 

 proposal was made by Mr. G. L. Watson to include length and 

 beam in a rule with sail (that is to say, that the rule should be 

 length plus breadth multiplied by sail and divided by constant), 

 hut after careful consideration the committee concluded that, 

 beam being so necessary for stiffness and deck accommodation, 

 and so detrimental to high speed when carried to excess, it would 

 l)e unwise or unnecessary to penalize it. Length, however, stands 

 in ,1 dilrerent position, and by using it in a rule as of equal value 

 w ith sail, a moderate out salutary check will be placed upon undne 

 proportions in length and sail area. 



The committee therefore recommend that the rule hitherto 

 ;< laced only in tho Y"". R. A. appendix be made the sole rule for 

 rating. The ride is, length on waterline multiplied by sail area, 

 and the product divided by 6,000. The committee is of opinion 

 that, should this rule he adopted, it shotdd remain in force for 

 seven years, unless by a vote to the contrary of three-fourths of 

 the cotmcU present at a meeting and confirmed by a majority of 

 the members of the Association. 



Y'our Committee recommend that the following classification be 

 adopted : 



i ive tons to take in existing yachts of three tons. 

 Ten tons to take in existing yachts of five tons. 

 Twenty tons to take in existing yachts of ten tons. 

 Forty tons to take in existing yachts of twenty tons. 

 Sixty tons to take in existing yachts of forty tons, and above 

 sixty tons. 



To suit this new rtile and new classiflcation, the time scale will 

 rcqtiii-e re-adjusting. 



With this proposed rating tliere will be no necessity for con- 

 tinuing the length class rating, and the committee recommend 

 that it be expunged from the book. 



A regulation will he devised to keep the mainsails of yawls in 

 the proportion they now are." 



Sir V\ . Fcrwood proposed, and Mr. A. Manning seconded, that 

 the report be adopted. 



ilr. J. Reid proposed, and Mr. W. G. Jameson seconded, that the 

 considerariou of the report be deferred for six weeks, in order to 

 allow yacht architects time to consider the matter, and if they can 

 show that the rule will produce an undesirable type of yacht, the 

 committee would then have an opportunity of "considering the 

 advisability of adopting a simple sail .area rule. 



The amendment was opposed on the ground that all the evidence 

 possible to obtain from naval architects had been obtained by the 

 committee, and most carefully considered; and further, that the 

 delay v\ ould only prolong the existing dead lock, so far as yacht 

 building is concerned, and finally lead to the same conclusion 

 arrived at by the committee. 



The amendment was then put, and there voted for it Messrs. 

 Reid, Jameson, Scott, Taylor and Thompson. It was declared not 

 carried. 



The original motion was then put, and there voted for it Col. 

 Leach, Messrs. Prescott-Westcar, G. B. Thompson, Baden-Powell, 

 E. R. TatcheU, H. Crawford, A. Manning, F. WiUan, Sir Wm. For- 

 wood and the Marquis of Exeter. This being a majority of two- 

 thirds of those present, as required by the rules, the report was de- 

 clared adopted. 



It transpired that the expert witnesses expressed opinions as to 

 a new rule as follows: 

 Mr. A. Richardson— Simple sail area. 



Mr. Beavor Webb— Simple sail area, or sail area and length. 

 Mr. C. P. Clayton— Sail area and len.gth. 

 Mr. G. L. Watson— Length, breadth and sail area. 

 Mr. Kemp— Length, breadth and sail area, or length and sail 

 area. 



Mr. Fife, Sr.— Length and sail area, or, if by hull alone, then take 

 in depth or girth. 

 Mr. Fife, Jr.— Length and saU area. 



Mr. R. E. Froude — Simple sail area, or sail area and length. 

 Mr. A. Payne— Sad. area and length. 

 Mr. E. WHkins— Sail area and length. 

 The general meeting was fixed for Dec. 14. 



CLTS FOR NEXT SEASON.— The citizens of Bar Harbor pro- 

 pose to offer prizes for a regatta to be sailed in the latter part of 

 August next, over a 30- mile triangular course from Bar Harbor. 

 The prizes will probably be a $300 cup for schooners; one of ^3-50 

 for cutters and sloops over 80ft. sailing length; one of §200 for 

 those CO to 89ft., and one of .IplSO for cutters and sloops under 60ft. 

 the race to be under the rules of the New Y''ork Y . C. The Bar 

 Harbor Y. C. has the matter in hand at present. 



AIMERICAN Y". C— At a meeting of the A. Y. C. on Nov. 30, the 

 prizes won this year were presented. The Commodore's Cup goes to 

 Atalanta, the Emery Cups, to Yosemite Lagonda and Nereid: the 

 cup under the Hasvvell allow-ance to Inanda, the latter also taking 

 the Bateman Challenge Cup. The Alley Cup for launches goes to 

 Orienta. Mr. Frank R. LawTence made the presentation speeches. 



THE CLYDE CHALLENGE.r-The Field states on authority 

 that the new Clyde boat is now building and will be named 

 Thistle. Her name and measurements will accompany a formal 

 challenge in due time. 



JULIA.— Mr. C. Obapin's new schooner, "was launched on 

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