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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Jan. 6, 1887. 



In tie challenge class for St. Bernards Plinlimmon won 

 easily OA^er Giiylord. In open, dogs, Duke of Marlborough 

 ir. is a grand specimen, not shown in as good condition as 

 his successful opponents, but we believe him to be quite 

 equal to Pnnce Battenberg when judged as a St. Bernard. 

 The latter won the cup over Plinlimmon, a decision we could 

 not indorse, as after looking both dogs carefully over, we 

 consider Plinlimmon much the better dog, and Duke of 



in face. Bernardine won again this year, closely pressed by 

 Queen Mab. The two classes provided for smooths were a 

 failure. 



In mastiffs, first went to King Canute, a good win, but we 

 beard some talk about objections owing to lameness; second 

 went to Victor Hugo, a good, strong dog, just large enough 

 in face and not perfectly straight on his legs. Third to 

 Albert Victor, a very large, .strong made don, vrith an enor- 

 mous skull, very weak before the eye, but owing to deep flews 

 he does not appear so at first sight; eye large and light in 

 color. Reserve went to a small-sized dog, short in face, with 

 badly carried ears. Nap, vhc, is a strong, powerful dog, not 

 as short and square in head as the fancy requires. In bitches, 

 first went to Cambrian Princess, looking well. Second to 

 Toosie, often reported upon. Third to a' moderately good 

 brindle bitch. Countess of Woolands is a lengthv bitch of 

 good size, but not with the sliort, square face of the -winner. 



In sheepdogs champion Rutland had no opponent. He 

 was looking remarkably well. In open dogs Claudian, fourth 

 prize, is a black and tan with a good coat. He is getting 

 heavy and loaded looking. Oakham, third prize, is a nice 

 sable, showing character and quality. Fred, fifth prize, is 

 coarse. Bendigo, a very good sable dog, also won in puppies, 

 possessing a very level long head, good ears, good coat, with 

 body, shoulders, feet and legs all that could be wished for. 

 In open bitches we liked Miss Posey equally as well as the 

 second prize Bertha. We also fancied the vhc. Precious. 

 Lady of the Lake, we considered deserved her position, 

 po.ssessing feet, legs, shoulders and with a collie head and 

 ears, showing plenty of style and character all through. 

 "White Heather is a nice bitch with small ears carried well 

 up. 



Rustic King won easily in the challenge class for bulldogs 

 over Mr. Shirley's entry. In open dogs, large size, first went 

 to O-swego. He is leggy with a good head, but small loin, 

 good in body and skull, but pinched in face. In bitches 

 'Royal Heiress is too le^gy. The second prize is small in 

 face. The third is plain and bad in ear. In small dogs 

 Sailor Prince was a good first. The second is leggy. In 

 bitches the first is small In face vsdth a good chest, but stands 

 too high on her legs. 



In the challenge class for bull-terriers Trentham Dutch 

 won well from Murderer II. In open dogs White Sam is a 

 good dog, spoiled with a spotted nose. Royal III. is wide in 

 chest. Dutch Lad is thick in skull. Eclipse is cheeky. 

 King of Hearts has improved since the summer show in 

 London, and we thought should have won here. In bitches 

 Duchess III. is a good, medium-sized bitch. Duchess, second 

 prize, is a large stjdish bitch; she falls off before the eye. 

 West End Maggie, he, does not carry her ears properly, 

 otherwise we consider her the most level-headed ancf best 

 bitch in the class; she is of medium size. First went to 

 Matchless, with a lemon mark on cheek; this bitch is much 

 imjiroved since the K. C. summer show, where she was un- 

 noticed, and taking her condition and form into consider- 

 ation, she may have been in her proper place on both occa- 

 sions. Candidate, second prize, is cheeky. The Rake (late 

 Peter II.) won here last year in the same class; he has grown 

 coarse and cheeky since then- he is also much too large for 

 the small class. In the small class Cribben, first, is a grand 

 bodied little dog, mth good feet and legs. ' Kelpie, second, 

 is best in head but falls oft" in quarters. 



There was a challenge class provided for white English 

 terriers, which had one entry. Leading Star, who seems 

 going back. For open dogs, Chesseth Model, from the same 

 kennel, won, Mr. James Hinks coming second with a mod- 

 erate young dog. In bitches Lady Lilly, small, very light in 

 bone, and evidently not in good health, won second, with a 

 very nice old bitch winning first. 



In the challenge class for black and tans Mr. Royle's Sir 

 Fredrick won well from Kenwood Queen. In the open class 

 the winners were well placed, but nothing jjarticularly good 

 in quality turned up. A very moderate bitch, uncropped, 

 won the special offered by the Black and Tan Terrier Club, 

 although unnoticed in the open class. 



Mr. John King won easy in prick-eared Skye terrier dogs 

 -with his well-knowm Pnnce Charlie II., and a very nice 

 bitch from the same kennel won in a small class of bitches. 



In drop-eared dogs Mr. King again won with Benmore, a 

 strong dog, just large enough, and of a light-gray color, but 

 with a good head, good body and plenty of coat. In prick- 

 eared bitches Kirk Ella was the only entry. She was looking 

 well, and is about the best of her class. 



In the challenge class for Bedlingtons The Bishop won 

 over Hairdresser, who is not as good as he was some time 

 ago, yet we think he ought to have won on this occasion. 

 Open dogs were a good class, so far as numbers, but from the 

 point of general quality the Bedlingtons are not improving. 

 Only two bitches turned up, the best winning. 



In Irish terriers Gaily won easily over Buster, shown too 

 fat. The open class was a very good collection, the winners 

 were all cropped. We think the unnoticed Jaques and Be- 

 gum were equal to any in the class. There were two classes 

 proA^ded for uncropped dogs and bitches, which turned out a 

 failure, second prize in each class being withheld and the 

 winning bitch was unnoticed in the open class. 



Dundee won again in the Scotch terrier dogs, Mr. Ludlow 

 coming second with a very nice small dog in Alister, while 

 Truth pressed the rest very closely. In bitches Ashley Nettle 

 won well, Glengyle coming second and changing hands at a 

 good figure. "We prefered the unnoticed Glen Brisbane, from 

 the same kennel, as being much better in head and coat, but 

 at present rather high on the legs. In bitches he. is small 

 and of good type, perhaps as good as any in the class. 



Welsh terriers were a very unlevel lot both in size and 

 quality. The winning dog is fine in bone, leggy and only 

 moderate in coat. 



Poodles were a very fair class. The winner, a very good 

 dog, was quickly claimed at the catalogue price, £10. The 

 second prize we liked very much, but he was all damp with 

 oil. However, at 1.5 guineas he was a cheap dog. 



In Pomeranians the winner, a nice little black dog, is 

 undershot. The white Charlie, showing age, coming sec- 

 ond. 



Mrs. Foster won first and second in Yorkshire terriers. 

 Bradford Hero shows age and is losing his color. 



In pugs Stingo Sniffles just won from Little Count. In 

 the open dog class Mr. Sheffield won with a very nice dog, 

 breeder and pedigree unknown, yet the a^e is given as two 

 years and one month. Mr. Lud, third prize, is of nice size 

 and quality, very dark along his back. King of Diamonds 

 was here unnoticed, which we think a decided mistake. 

 Bitches were only a moderate class, third prize being with- 

 held. Miss Boffin, unnoticed, is good in character, but 

 wide in front. Sunset is small and cobby but small in skull 

 and face. 



There were no entries in Maltese. 



Italian greyhounds were a very good class. Bankside, 

 Daisy II. and Beauty II. were best to our mind, but Polo 

 showed better, the others being more timid. 



In the challenge class for toy spaniels Olivette won, look- 

 ing very well with good coat ana feather. 



In Blenheims we preferred Prince Charlie to the winner, 

 being better in color and best in coat, and equally as good in 

 skull and face. j o 



-fn King Charles second prize was withheld, which we 

 think hard lines, as the reserve. Crown Princess, is a very 

 good specimen, but a trifle dark in color. The winner, Jules, 

 IS a good dog, with not quite enough underjaw. 



Tri-colored spaniels had no entry. 



There was a very good class of black and tan toys, and the 

 winners were correctly placed. 



In rough toys Mr. Poster won with Daisy II., rather light 

 in color but good in coat. The reserved. Little Wonder, has 

 a good coat for the age and is good in color, and sure to be 

 heard of again. 



Thelistof premiums will be published in the u4.mcriean 

 Kennel Begister. 



A. K. R. NUMBERS. 



BELOW are given the numbers and owners' names of the 

 190 dogs entered in the December number of the Amer- 

 ican Kennel Begister: 



BASSET. 



4312. Louisette, R. If. Hart. 



BEAGLES. 



4313. Blue Cap III., F. Hotchkiss. 4315. Pinch, B. HilL 



4314. King William, S. C. Graff. 



BULLDOGS. 



Hillside Belle, J. E.Thayer. 4318. Hillside Juan, J. E.Thaycr 

 HiUside Crusoe,J.E.T]iayer 4319. HiUside Queen,J.E.Thayer' 



CHESAPEAKE BAY DOGS. 

 Dyesha, J. L. Turner. 



COLLIES. 



Balmoral, J. Watson. 4334. Nellie Allen, C. J. Allen. 



Belle of Kalmia, J. D.Shot- 4385. Noble, E. & R. H. Bui-deall. 



well. 4.m Orphan Girl, Glencoe Collie 



Blanche D., W. P. Krom. Kennels. 

 Bonnie Jean XL, W. R. G. 4337. Queen Bess XL, G. A. Drape. 



Andrews. 4338. Queen Mai-y, J. Watson. 



Fantilla, J. Lynn. 4339. Robert Lee, P. Burns. 



Flossie Bldred, J. C.Eldred. 4340. Sandv IXL, J. Hone, Jr. 

 Genlivat, A. R. Kyle. 4341. Scotcli Rover. G. F. Liddy. 



Heather Belle XX.,A.R.Kyle m3. Scotia, G. A. Smith. 

 Henrietta, .J. Hone, Jr. *"'" " " 



Kenihvortli, .J. Watson. 

 LadyBcascc. J. McCain. 



ms. Shep II., W. Z. Cozens. 

 4314. Silva, J. Greenlee. 



'1815. Storm King, D. H. Hays. 



Lochinvar 11., .J .R. Slicpley . 434G. Tarn O' Shunter, J.Watson. 

 Mr. Laddie, T. C. Beer. 4347. Vixen H., J. Hone, Jr. 



4316. 

 4317. 



4320. 



4331. 

 4322. 



4323. 

 4324. 



432.5. 

 4326. 

 4327. 

 4328. 

 4329. 

 4330. 



mi. 



4333. 

 4333. 



DEERHOUNDS. 



4348. Dauntless, J. E. Thayer. 4Sr)]. LornaSecnnda, J.E.Thayer 



4349. Highland Chieftain, J. E. 4352. Robber Chieftain, J. E. 



Thayer. Thayer. 



4350. King of the Forest, J. E. 



Thayer. 



ITALIAN GREYHOUNDS. 

 4353. Goldie, C. J. Tanner. 4354. Italie, C. J. Tanner. 



MASTIFFS. 



Beech Grove Ajax, J. B. 4368. John, W. "Von Steinwehr, 



Heywood. 4369. Judge II., L. D. Ely. 



Beech Grove Lion, G. W. 4370. Louise, M. C. Harvcv. 



Cohvell. 4371. Lulu Zuhr, L. 1\ Ely. 



Beech Grove Patsy, W. H. 4372. Mars XL, P. LeClare. 



McCurdy. 4.373. Plato, D. L. Fry. 



Beech Grove Queen, E. R. 4374. Quakeress. G. S. Roberts. 



Brown. 4375. Rover II., H. Mead. 



Bismarck Ashmont, G. P. 4376. Tiger, G. Von Steinwehr. 



Zeiss. 4377. Wacouta Baby, Wacouta 



Brock, D. F. Gulliver. Keimels. 

 Chispa, P. LeClare. 4378. Wacouta Belle, Wacouta 



Count Rosko, J.L.Winchell Kennels. 

 Countess Lofty, M. C. Har- 45579. Wacouta Don, Wacouta 

 Kennels. 

 4380. Wacouta Jester, Wacouta 



, Kennels. 



Duke de Richelien, E. W. 4381. Wacouta Tiger, Wacouta 



Jester. Kennels. 

 Emperor William, W. 4382. Wacouta Zulu, Wacouta 

 Ramsay. Kennels. 



NEWFOUNDLAND. 

 Bruno, J. H. Gallagher. 



POINTERS. 



Bessie ni., J. E. Alexander 4389. Mayflower, G. L. Wilms. 



and J. M. Odiorne. 4.390. Philley, C. A. C. Bernan. 



Bravo, Jr., H. C. Britton. 4391. Nick of NasOj^C^ J. Peshall. 

 Cola, J. M. Odiorne. 

 Fairy II., L. Gardner. 

 Glen Graphic, G . W; LovelL 



PUGS. 



BudgeW.,S. G. Wiest. 4397. Chequasset Ruby. W. E. 

 Chequassct Diamond, Adolf Ramsey. 



Stucky. 4398. Flossy II., Jack Griffith. 



Chequasset Pearl, Adolf 4399. Thalia, W. E. liarasey. 

 Stucky. 4400. Tristram, W.B.Woodward. 



ST. BERNARDS.— Rough-Coated. 



4355. 



4356. 



4357. 



4358. 



4359. 



4300. 

 4361. 

 4362. 

 4363. 



4364. 

 4365. 

 4366. 



4384. 



4385. 

 4386. 

 4387. 

 4388. 



4394. 

 4.395. 



vey. 



DondaUj J. Clary & Son. 

 Dread, A. A. Bennett^ 



4:jyi. JN'icfc ot JNaso, C. J. Peshall. 



4392. RosaMay, J.P.Cartwright. 



4393. Time, H. W. Wiencke. 



4l01. 

 4403. 



ms. 



4404. 

 4405. 

 4408. 



4407. 

 4-108. 



4118. 



4419. 

 4420. 

 4421. 

 4422. 

 4-123. 

 44S4. 



4425. 



4433. 

 4434. 

 4435. 

 4436. 

 4437. 

 443S. 

 4439. 



4446. 

 4447, 



4449. 



4450, 

 4451. 

 4453. 

 4453. 

 4454. 



4461. 



4463. 

 4403. 

 4464. 

 4465. 

 4466. 

 4467. 



4468. 

 4469. 



Adelheid, Jas. Watson. 4409. Pike's Peak, Hospice K'a. 



General Butler, Hospice 4410. Pilot, Hospice Kennels. 

 Kennels. 4411. Pioneer, Hospice Kennels. 



Jungfrau, Jas. Watson. 4413. Pocahontas, Hospice Ken- 



Max,Rocklngham Xvennels. nels. 



Paleface, Ho.spice Kennels. 4413. Prince Barry, H. S. Pitkin. 



Pathfinder, Hospice Ken- 4414. Ruthett, Rockingham Ken- 

 nels, nels. 



Pepin, Hospice Kennels. 4415. Silberhorn, Jas. Watson, 



Phoebe, Rockingham Ken- 4416. Theo, Mrs. L. Hamilton, 

 nels. 4417. Theophania, Jas. Watson. 



Smooth-Coated. 



ApoUonia, Hospice Ken- 4426. Monitor, J. Turnbull. 

 nels. 4427. Monk S.. J. R. Draper. 



Barney, P. Smith. 4428. Monte Christo, H.T.Adams. 



Bess W., E. Walther. 4429. Queen of Sheha, Hospice 



Betty. J R. Draper. Kennels. 



Dick T., E. Walther. 44-30. Swiss Alp, Hospice Ken- 



Earlking, C. Wills. nels. 



Edelweiss, Hospice Ken- 4431. Swiss Home, Hospice Ken- 

 nels, nels. 



Hector, Hospice Kennels. 4432. Thuna, Hospice Kennels. 

 SETTERS— English Setters. 



4440. Gretchen Gladstone, R. E. 

 Fenton. 



4441. Miss Dot, W. Mai-lner. 



4442. Pima Girl, T. A. Judd. 



4443. Roger, L. Gardner. 



4444. Rose Laverack, F. C. 

 Sayics, Jr. 



4445. Spot Premier, J. A. Vamey. 

 GoBDON Settees. 



4448. Veeder Mab, J. S. Veeder. 



Daisy C, C. A. Ives. 

 Dell B„ G. W. Lovell. 

 Dian, H. H. Stoddard. 

 Diomed II., E. M. Crouch. 

 Discount, J. D. Niccimi. 

 Fannie Druid, W. Mariner, 

 Gladstone Shot, W. G. 

 Comstock, Jr. 



Laird, T. H. Stryker. 

 Rob Roy, W. Huntington. 



IBISH Settehs. 

 Annie Elcho, U. S. Kennel 4455. King Ban H., W. Seaman. 



Club. 



Claud, A. C. Hubbard. 

 Con II., E. K. Lefflngwell. 

 Duke, C. P. Fox. 

 Grouse, P. C. Laselle. 



4456. Larry O'Moore, G. E. Sears. 

 4157. Meg, T. H. Watson. 

 4458. Rex H., T. A. Judd. 

 44.59. Ruby Glencho, L. A. Van 

 Zandt. 



Bnxii-TEBRIERS. 



4480. 

 4481. 

 4482. 



Baronet, A. Perrin. 

 Countess, F. F. Dole. 

 Nellie ll., White Moun- 

 tain KeimeLs. 

 Nelly, C. Wanner. 



4484. Puss, A. Perrin. 

 44«5. Royal Dandy, J. W. New- 

 man. 



4486. Silver, F. F. Dole. 



4487. White Pink, J. Forrest. 



FOS-TEBRrEBS. 



4488. Blemton Veda, A. Belmont, 4496. Jersey Trix, W. H. Joeckel 



4489. 

 4490. 

 4491. 

 4493. 

 4493. 

 4494. 

 4495, 



Jr. 



Bruce, J. N. Holton. 

 Damietta, A. Belmont^, Jr. 

 Diadem, A. Bebnont, Jr. 

 Don, C. Stuckert. 

 Fakir, G. H. "VVTiitehead. 

 Festive, A. Belmont, Jr. 

 Gamma, A, Belmont, Jr. 



Jr. 



4497. Resolute, A. Belmont, Jr. 



4498. Saucy, G. H. Whitehead. 



4499. Safety. A. Belmont, Jr. 



4500. Terra, A. Belmont, Jr. 



4501. Tiara, A. Belmont, Jr. 



4502. Witch, G, H. "Whitehead, 



Handy Andy, Julia Turner. 4460. Trixey B., G. W. Boyce. 



SHEE PDOGS— Bob-Tailed. 

 Daisy, H. HiU. 



SPANIELS— Field and Cocker Spaniels. 

 Charlton, S.R.Hemingway. 4470. Lucy, Am. Cocker Kennels. 

 Count Oho, G.M.MacBride. 4471. Midnight IL, C. W.WDson. 

 Dick XL, J. Brombach. 4472. Pagan, S. R. Hemingway. 

 Dixie, Am. Cocker Kennels 4473. Plato, R. J. Carroll. 

 Don Jaime, J. O'Leary. 4474. Prince III., J. E. Leaiy. 

 Hornell Mikado, Hornell 4475. Rose, .J. Brombach. 



Spaniel Club. 4476. Schneider. J. H. Vaill. 



Jet XV., McP. Kennedy. 4477. Teddy, C. Bonney. 

 Keno, C. A. Ives. 4478. Tip, J. W. Palmer. 



TERRIERS— Black and Tan Tebbiees. 

 Mahomet, H. Muss. J 



MASTIFF TYPE. 



Editor Forest nnd Stream: 



I am very far from agreeing with Mr. Wynn's willingness 

 to bury the hatchet on the above subject, for the facts are so 

 strongly with Mr. Haldeman and myself that the more it is 

 discussed the stronger our positions lieconie. I will grant 

 that there is not muchfun m arguing with Mr. Wvnn, as he 

 IS the one conspicuous instance of a fancier that I know of 

 who always applies the rule of common sense, and does not 

 let the hus.sy run away with him. As for instance I warrant 

 that he scorns clipping a poodle, a la vogue, and I doubt if 

 he entertains a very high opinion of the endeavors of the St. 

 Bernard Club to make their pets six-toed dogs. 



However, as his is the second tramping on a com of mine, 

 I must have something to say in reply to' what he says as to 

 the misleading tendency of photographs of dogs. Full well 

 do I know that no photo or perhaps no dozen of them can 

 give a true opinion of a dog; if they could there would be 

 no reason for a judge looking at a dog in more than one point 

 of view; but this I do maintain, and will stick it out against 

 a thousand of "authorities," and defy them to a solmiission 

 of the question to any intelligent tribunal, that if a photo 

 of a dog, taken squarely in profile, shows him square in 

 muzzle, he cannot be as undershot as Mr. Wynn's pet Uford 

 Caution, and I insist that the photos of such eminent dogs 

 as Turk, Colonel, Taurus, Taurus II., Anlaf, Duchess i2366). 

 Peeress, Rajah, Countess, Hanbmy's Prince and Field's Nell, 

 all taken squarely in front of the camera, show no such dis- 

 gu.sting layback as I have cited in CroMm Prince, Ilford 

 Caution, etc. Further, I maintain again that no dog -with 

 properly bent hocks could possibly assume the position of 

 hindlegs that is shown in the profile photo of Crown Prince. 



If I am wrong in either of these propositions, it follows 

 that a photo in profile of a freshly imported African may be 

 a likeness of Sir Isaac NcAvton, or that a man may walk with 

 Tiis ankle joint perfectly vertical. It iust amounts to this: 

 If a photo shows a fault, plainly and unmistakably, the 

 fault must exi.st, and I see no escape from this conclusion. 

 As to "fancy" pictures, those of King in Avicrican Kennel 

 Begister and Fokest and Stkeam and the original of Turk, 

 have been admitted by Mr. Wynn himself as good likenesses. 

 As to how .short-faced mastiffs" may have Ix en in the past, I 

 do not pretend to dispute with Mr. Wynn, but 1 do assert 

 that none of the dogs I have cited could have been as short- 

 faced as, say Crown Prince, Orlando or Ilford Caution. Re- 

 member that I have always made a very broad distinction be- 

 tween "undershot" and "layback." If the dog is only so 

 much undershot that the lips mu.st be opened to determine 

 it, it would seem almost a necessity; but when the lower jaw 

 sticks out like the ram of an ironclad ship, it is as disgust- 

 ing a deformity as I know of. Do not say this is an exag- 

 geration; look up the pictures of an ironclad ram and see if 

 a certain dog is not suggested. Further, on the ciuestion 

 whether a dog can be too short-faced. Surely it will be ad- 

 mitted that a bulldog is the exemplar of short face? And it 

 will also be admitted that Mr. Frank Adcock should be an 

 authority on them? Well, did not he expressly characterize 

 it as a great mistake to hold that a bulldog's head 

 could not be too short? I am thoroughly in accord 

 with Mr. Lukey and Mr. Wynn as to dislike of 

 a narrow head, domed skull (a marked feature of Ilford 

 Caution) and taper muzzle, but I dispute both of them in 

 their saying that it is accompanied by ill temper, or a want 

 of faithful guarding intelligence. ^STo two mastiffs ever 

 lived ^vith higher qualifications in this line than my old 

 Gripaey and her son Lion, yet both had muzzles that would 

 have thrown Mr. Wjmn into con\ailsious. Mr. Wynn very 

 properly quotes Mr. Thompson as an authority. I accept it. 

 Did not Mr. Thompson say that he wanted no better type of 

 head, if it was nottoo long, than Mr. Wynn's Peeress?' And 

 she shows almost an exact copy of the head of Old Turk! 

 I base this on a magnificent crayon drawing of her, in pro- 

 file, that Mr. Wynn kindly sent me, and which forms the 

 most prized ornament of my dog sanctum, and the idea that 

 .such di.sgusting-looking brutes as Ilford Caution, Crown 

 Prince, etc., should be mastiffs in the same day as this noble- 

 looking animal is too calamitous for contemplation. Take 

 Orlando; he is apparently the shortest-faced of the whole 

 lot, yet his photo shows a dog of a dignified, amiable, noble 

 appearancej not quite the equal of Turk, Colonel or Peeress, 

 but Hyperion to a Satyr compared with the .snub-nosed 

 beasts I have mentioned. If Mr. Wynn thinks it worth 

 while worrying with such desperate cranks as Mr. Halde- 

 man and me, fellows who obstinately persist in quoting 

 hard facts in the teeth of "fancy," perhaps he will enlighten 

 me as to whether Orlando shows the layback of Hford Cau- 

 tion. I ask in good faith, a.s the photo is a front view of his 

 head. 



Again and again, I protest that I do not admire long 

 heads. Peeress, Turk, King and Rajah are plenty long in 

 face for my taste, but I do insist that because a mastiff is a 

 short-faced dog, it doesn't follow that he may not be too 

 short-faced. 



However, as it is somewhat profitless to set up opinion vs. 

 opinion, assertion against assertion, I propose this: Submit 

 it to a trio of dog men, not mastiff men. I will fur- 

 nish photos of Rajah, Duchess (23()f)) her sister, Mrs. 

 Rawlinson's Countess, dam of The Emperor, Governor, King, 

 Mr. Wynn's Young King II. and Peeress, Turk, Ilanbury's 

 Prince, I'ield's NeU (dam of King) Taurus and his son 

 Taurus II., as samples of dogs of fame of past years, and as 

 samples of true mastiff" heads. Per contra, I will furnish 

 photos of Crown Prince, Pontiff, Beaufort, the Lady Clare, 

 and the cut in A.K.B. of Ilford Caution, as sam'ples of 

 "short-faced," snub-nosed dogs. All these were furnished 

 me by Mr. "Wynn himself, except Rajah's, which I got from 

 Mr. Hanbury, and Crown Prince's, which is copied from one 

 bearing Crown Prince's name in Mr. Woolmore's own hand- 

 writing. Let this committee say if the short-faced, .snub- 

 no.se layback of the last lot is characteristic of the former 

 lot? I name as my selection Mr. John Davidson, and trust 

 that you, Mr. Editor, will be kind enough to name the 

 others. I specify non-niastiff men, because all fanciers have 

 some prepossessions as to their own hobby, and are, to that 

 extent, unsatisfactory judges on such a point. 



Nobody who knows his similarity to the masti.ff he loves 

 will suspect Mr. Wynn of "funking'' on any controversy, 

 and as to my being laughed at in the Stock-Keeper for 

 attacking "Fancy" in her entrenchment of follies, I would 

 say that those who laugh la.st laugh best, and until some- 

 body else undertakes to attack me there, instead of leaving 

 it all to Mr. Wymn, I can only twirl extended fingers at 

 them. As I said before, there is not much fun in arguing 

 with Mr. Wjmn, but I would like to skin a fool on this 

 subject. W. Wade. 



HtTLTON, Pa., Dec. 17, 



