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FORfiSt AND STREAM. 



[Jan. 18, 1887. 



THE PLANS OF THE THISTLE. 



LAST week the representative of the Boston Herald was in New 

 York and exhibited tne so-called plans of the Thistle to some 

 of the leading yachtsmen, most of whom testified to a belief in 

 their authenticity. We can only repeat our first assertion that 

 while the dra^vings may have come f romMr. Watson's office, there 

 is every reason for a belief that thev do not, in outline or dimen- 

 sions, represent the now yacht. We can add, on authority, that 

 up to a very recent date the original drawings had not been out- 

 side of Mr. Watson's private room, and the only copv in the yard 

 was in the hands of one trustworthy man. There had been, how- 

 ever, some rough heliograph sketches senn out to several builders 

 as aids in making estimates. To suppose that those interested 

 have taken every precaution to lock up the plans and keep the 

 details confined to two or three persons, and then have given out 

 freely the correct tracings and dimensions is simplv ridiculous. 

 The following telegram from Glasgow appeared In the Neio York 

 Herald of Jan. 9: 



Borne amusement was excited on the Clyde to-day on the arrival 

 of the Boston Herald of Deo. 26, containing the working drawings 

 of the Thistle, with specific dimensions, and interviews based on 

 these alleged plans. The question mooted here is, who hoaxed 

 that enterpiisiug newspaper ? It is well known on the Clyde that 

 Mr. James Bell, in whose name the challenge appears, has ex- 

 pressed himself strongly that he has bound the designer, Mr. 

 Watson, not to divulge any of the dimensions of the Thistle until 

 the yaent is in frame, when the Eoard of Trade officials can see 

 her and give the Custom House a certificate of her tonnage. Then 

 only will the official challenge and the yacht's dimenions be sent 

 to New York. Probably these will be sent in March, so that, al- 

 lo%ving for the necessary six months' notice, the race can take 

 place in the middle of October. It is not generally kno\vn, however, 

 even hereabou's— but it is certainly true— that the Thistle is being 

 huiltby a sjTidicate of five men, tlie principal among whom is Mr. 

 James Coats, Jr., the thread millionaire of Paisley, and the owner 

 of the crack English racing yachts Marjorie and Sladge. Hitherto 

 his name has not appeared in print, the reason perhaps being, as 

 some think, that, doing a vei-y large business in America, it 

 might bo tnought he ought not to oppose America for the Cup. 

 But such a reason is fallacious. Mr. James Bell, as a yachssmau, 

 -was almost unheard of even here until the challenge for the Cup 

 ■was made, but Mr. Coats finding the money and being at the back 

 of the challenge is a guarantee to American yachtsmen that 

 nothing is to be snared to bring back by aid of the Thistle the 

 valued America's Cup, 



"'TWAS A FAMOUS VlCTOIlY."-jEdftor Forest and Stream: 

 The undersigned is one of the benighted individuals who has been 

 laboring imder the false impression that the owners of Uenesta 

 and Galatea put themselves to the trifling expense of a trip acros-s 

 the "pond," with some thought, perhaps shght expectations, of 

 ■Winning glory and reno-\TO for themselves, th; ir vessels and their 

 country. To accomplish this with overwhelming success, I believe 

 it necessa- y that they (Geuesta and Galatea) should be somewhere 

 in the vicinity of the home stakeboat about the time the race was 

 finished. That is what I did think. It seems though, like Galatea 

 al the finish, I was "way off," but thanks to "Loyaliv," I am in- 

 formed through the medium of the Forest akd Stream that 

 "another year is about to close, and with the last, it shows a 

 ■victory for the Englishmen, not that they have secured the Cup, 

 for that of itself is of small value, but that they have forced an 

 acknowledgment from us by the acceptance of their ideas, that 

 we were not able, if lelt to our own resources, independent of help, 

 to successfully cope with them and defend the Cup." From which 

 It would appear that in the pre-arranged programme of our Eng- 

 lish cousins, the winning of tlie Cup figured only as aminor detail. 

 What thoy particularly desired, what the;r hearts yearned for, 

 what they spent their time and their monej' for, was the proud 

 distinction of being defeated vs'ith their o-wn weapons. Nowwhile 

 this may be very gratifying to the Englishmen, the fact of otu- 

 ha\ang taken such an unfair advantage is necessarily humilitating 

 to all good and true Yankees. Perhaps "Loyalty" can furnish us 

 with more or less authentic proof that Noah, if not a native born, 

 at least showed some Yankee characteristics. Did he lay in, for 

 use of first cabin passengers, an tmusua] supply of beans ? Did he 

 try to palm oif on the live stock shoe pegs, sharpened at each end, 

 for oats ? If I say wo can lay no claim to Noah as a fellow country- 

 man, and we must acknowledge him as the original designer and 

 builder, why then should we presume to build boats of any kind ? 

 —Yankee Doodle. 



KNICKERBOCKER Y. C.-The annual meeting of the K. Y. 0. 

 was held on Jan. 5 at the Mount Morris Hotel, Harlem, a large 

 number being present. The following amendmeuts were pro- 

 posed, but only a f e^\^ voted in theii* favor, and neither was car- 

 ried: To amend Article I. Section 1, to read "The initiation fee 

 shall be SIO." The present fee is gSO. To eliminate Section 7, of 

 the sailing regulations, vrtth Seawanhaka rule and substitute the 

 following: "Cabin yachts to be measured as per waterline length, 

 with one-third the overhang added thereto." The present rule is 

 sail area. The length and sail area rule has been in use for two 

 seasons and has worked very well in classifying yachts of various 

 types, but it is opposed by a few whose yachts fare badly under it. 

 No rule can be found that will not bo hard on some few boats out 

 of a large fleet, and as in the majority of cases the rule was satis- 

 factory the majority voted for its retention. The officers for 1867 

 were elected as follows: Commodore, G. W. Rosenquest, sloop 

 Mayotta: Vice-Commodore, R. W. Rathbone, cutter Surf: Treas- 

 urer, 0. W. Lamb; Secretary, A.Varian; Measurer, Chaiies Cough- 

 trey, cutter Nanita; Fleet Surgeon, Dr. Ringer, sloop Supervisor; 

 Steward, Augustus Wagner, sloop Maggie. The Trustees elected 

 were M. J. Greeley, Chairman; W, Potter, Jr., George T. Charlton, 

 I. Paxon and J. Harris. After the conclusion of the meeting the 

 club adjourned to the large hall below, where tables were laid for 

 nearly ninety members and guests. The dinner was followed by 

 songs and speeches and it was late when the party broke up after 

 a very pleasant evening. The dinner was arranged by Messrs. 

 Thos. I. IVIiUer and W. D. Reed, and to them the success of the 

 experiment is due. The club has not been in the habit of holding 

 an annual dinner, but this occasion clearly proved the importance 

 of such meetings m promoting closer relations among the mem- 

 bers and of uniting the club through the winter, and the dinner 

 will probably become a permanent feature of the annual meeting. 



THE PROPORTIONS OF THE THISTLE.-It seems to be 

 generally accepted as a fact on this side that Mr. Watson ■will 

 build a wider boat than heretofore, availing himself of the lati- 

 tude allowed by the new rule, but there is no evidence thus far 

 that this will be the case. No doubt Thistle wiU be -wider than 

 Galatea, but Mr. Webb has gone further in the large sizes than 

 any other designer, the nearest of the other boats being Irex. 

 The Watson" ' i .•.,.._.-„ ,.i,„ 



larger sizes, 



beams, and May 



Galatea .5.8 beams. While Thistle may show a little more beam 

 above water and a rounder side, there is no reason to suppose that 

 she will depart materially from her predecessors. 



SEAWANHAKA 0. Y. C— The first meeting of the Seawanhaka 

 C. Y. C. for 1887 was held at Delmonlco's on Jan. 10, with Commo- 

 dore Canfield in the chair. The reports of the Board of Trustees, 

 Secretary and Treasurer were read, showing a veiT prosperous 

 yeai- for the club. The Trustees reported that the experiment of 

 a cltib yacht had proved a success, as the Venture had been in 

 commission for five months from May 15, and had been used 

 nearly every day. The Secretary's report showed that, in spite of 

 the resignations presented some time since, the club's member- 

 ship was as hi^h as ever, and the Treasurer's report showed the 

 finances to be in good condition. The committee on "club-house 

 and future abiding place" reported progress, but the plans they 

 have nnder consideration are not sufficiently matured to be laid 

 before the club. The special committee on "Revision of the Sail- 

 ing Regulations" presented a full report, embodying a number of 

 important changes in the sailing rules. The report was ordered 

 printed and laid before the club. Mr. Simond's motion to raise the 

 cost of life membership to $2J}0 was adopted. The officers elected for 

 1887 were: Commodore, A. Ca&s Canfield; Vice-Commodore, Robert 

 Center: Rear-Commodore, Ralph W. Ellis; Secretary, L. F. 

 d'Or^miieulx; Treasurer, W. B. Sunonds; Measurer, John Hvslop; 

 Fleet Surgeon, J. W. Roosevelt. M.D.; Fleet Chaplain, Geo. K. 

 Vandewater, D.D.: Board of Trustees, W. B. Simonds, Wm. 

 Fonlke, Jr., J, F. Tarns, Wm. W. Tomldns and R. L. Belknap; 

 Sailing Committee, Louis F. Bayard, F. O. De Luze, L. F. d'0r6- 

 mieulx, J. A. Montant and M. M. Howland; Law Committee, C. 

 W. Wetmore, H. P. Rogers, Sindey Chubb; House Committee, 

 F. O. DeLuze, Chas. H. Leland, H. S. Rokenbaugh. 



YACHTS AT THE BAHAMAS.-The British officials at the 

 Bahamas have lately extended to American yacJits the same priv- 

 ileges enjoyed by the Royal Yacht Squadron, the act reading as 

 follows: "\Vlien any yacht arriving within these islands shall 

 have on board any stores, provisions, liquors, sails or other mate- 

 rials for the use of and belonging to the said vessel, which the 

 owner or master thereof may deem it necessary to laud, but with 

 the intention of taking the same on board again, it shall be lawful 

 for the Receiver- General, nnder such regulations as he may con- 

 sider necessary with respect thereto relat ve to entering and clear- 

 ing the same, to allow such stores, provisions, liquors, sails and 

 other materials to be landed and ^^•arehoused, and to be removed 

 and taken from such Avarehouse for consumption and use on board 

 of such vessel, without the payment of any taxes or charges of any 

 kind whatsoever, anytliing in any act of Assembly to the contrary 

 notwithstanding." A yaciit to be entitled to the foregoing pri Al- 

 leges must produce to the chief revenue officer at the port at which 

 she arrives tlie commission or otiier document issued bj the proper 

 authorities of the foreign nation to which sucJi yacht oelongs and 

 under which such vessel is identiUed and recognized as a j^aclit of 

 such nation. This concession is due to the efforts of Gen. Perkins 

 when at Nassau last winter. 



THE GREAT NEWSPAPER YACHT RACE.-To witness the 

 reckless manner in which the hardy tars of the press have tmder- 

 taken the dangers and discomforts of an ocean race in midA\inter, 

 the enthusiasm with which they sound the praises of ocean yacht- 

 ing, and the promptitude with which they have entered their 

 respective favorites, one would almost believe that they had 

 ahvays favored such I'ough sport. It is amusing to contrast the 

 sportsmanlike spirit with which they discourse now on the glories 

 of Atlantic racing, and the easy victories in store for American 

 yachts, with the cold reception they gave only a few months since 

 to-a bona fide challenge for an ocean race. The distance proposed 

 then was only 1,200 miles, but it was too far. Now they have 

 entered the entire keel schooner fleet for a race across to England, 

 another to NeAV York and back, and a fourth trip home, or about 

 13,000 miles in all. Go slowly, gentlemen, or you may stumble 

 across some takers of these bold oflers, who will be no more ac- 

 ceptaljle than was Lieut. Henu wth Galatea last tall. 



A YACHT CLUB AT ROCHESTER.— The organization of a 

 vacbt club at Rochester, N. Y., was finally eilected at a meeting 

 lately held at the Clinton House. The officers elected for 1887 

 were: Commodore, George H. Newell; Vice-Commodore, Matt 

 Cartwright; Captain, B. M. Walbridge; Secretary, Charles A. 

 Worts; Treasurer, E. Ocumpaugh; Fleet Surgeon, Dr. W. S. Hall; 

 Measurer, J. J. Loary; Directors, H. S. Tomer, W. N. Oothout, 

 George P. Goulding, C. A. PhiUips. These officers, except sm-geon 

 and ineasttrer, constitute the executive committee of the club. 

 Mr. J. Bietry 1 as offered a site for a basin on a ten years' lease at 

 a nominal sum. The constitution and by-laM's, based on those of 

 the Oswego Y. C, were adopted, and the members, fifty in num- 

 ber, signed the roll. The Executive Committee were empowered 

 to apply for admission to the L. Y. R. A., if they considered it de- 

 sirable. A sloop, SOxSft. l.w.l. and 4ft. draft, -will be built before 

 spring, and also a cutter, 30x7ft. and 5ft. draft. Several other 

 yachts vnU be purchased by members. 



THE NEW SECOND CLASS BOATS.-The plans of Mr. Iselin's 

 new yacht have been changed lately, and she will be built of steel 

 by Mr. Piejigrass at his new yard at City Island. Her length is 

 7(5ft. l.w.l., beam 21ft. and draft 8ft., with lead keel and center- 

 board, of the same general t>'pe, but diftering some in detail. Mr. 

 J. it. Maxwell will nave a yacht of 69ft. 1. w. 1. from a model of his 

 own in connection with Mr. John Mtuum, who will build the yacht 

 at Bay Ridge. Mr. W. Ziegler, owner of the sloop Thistle, -will 

 also biiild for the class, and probably from a Herreshoff model, the 

 boat being also built at Bristol. These three yachts make it certain 

 that there -svill be plenty of sport in the second class, and the pros- 

 pects may be still brighter when Thistle's length is made public. 

 The wiseacres are already picking out the winning yacht, and 

 some of them seem to have forgatten that Bedouin is still in the 

 second class. 



ICE YACHTING.— The ice yachtsmen are all ready. The chief 

 events of the season thus far have been the running away -with an 

 iceboat by two boys, one of whom narrowly escaped drowning, 

 being rescued by a'young lady; and a similar accident at Tuxedo, 

 where a lady and gentleman sailed into an air hole, but were fished 

 out. The &rat race of the year took place on Jan. 7, on the North 

 Shrewsbury, the entries being: First Class— Grover Cleveland, 

 George Coley and Uncle Bob. Second Class— Kittie, Ca.pt. James 

 Doughty, and Zero, Capt. Edward Throckmorton. Grover Cleve- 

 land won in her class, time 39min. fi'Zmc., and Kittie in hers, time 

 40min, 20seo. The course was 12}^ miles and wind N.N.E. 



NEW YORK Y. C.-The nominations for officers for 1887 are: 

 Commodore, Elbridge T. Gerry; Vice-Commodore, Charles Cool- 

 edge Haight: Rear-Commodore, Francis C. La\vrence, .Lv ; Secre- 

 tary, John Bird; Treasurer, F. W. J. Htirst; Fleet Sul■geo^, Morris 

 J. Asch, M. D.; Measurer, John Hyslop; Regatta Committee, 

 Gouverueur Kortright, Alexander Tayloi-, Jr., and Stephen Pea- 

 body: House Committee, D. Henry Knowlton, E. A. Houghton, H, 



held on Feb. L 



A SLOOP YACHT MISSING.— The sloop Dream, which left 

 Beaufort, N. C, on Dec. 31, has not yet arrived at Charleston, and 

 much anxiety is felt for her safety. 



A DESIGN FOR A THIRD-CLASS RACER.-Mr. J. Borden, 

 Jr., of the Boston Yacht Agency, has lately made a design for a 

 racer of Clara's class, the dimensions being as follows: Length 

 over all, 67ft.; l.w.l., 52ft.; beam, extreme, IGft.; l.w.l., 15ft. 6in.,' 

 draft, 7ft. 6in.; displacement, 41.03 tons. The design is greatly cut 

 away forward, Avith a strong rake to keel, the sternpost is plumb, 

 and above water the hull has a clinper stern and a long counter. 

 The sheer is peculiar, being high forward, the lowest point far aft 

 and a quick turn up at counter. The yacht is intended tor a good 

 sail area, while the immersed surface has been kept as small as 

 possible. 



SANS PEUR.— The Duke of Sutherland's steam yacht arrived 

 at Charleston, S. C, on Jan. 5, and is now awaiting her owner. 

 She was sixteen days from Plymouth, calling at Bermuda, and 

 the passage is reported as stormv throughout. The worst weather 

 was encountered on the three days' run between Bei-muda and 

 Charleston, several severe gales being met with, while the jibboom 

 and foretopmast were carried away and the gig was swept over- 

 board. Repairs were made at Charleston and she sailed on Jan. 10 

 for Fernandina. 



BURLINGTON BAY.— Mr. Geo. Webster is building at Hamil- 

 ton, Ont., a deep aloop, 42ft. load waterline, lift. oin. beam and 

 with 5 tons on keel. The ya\v'l MoUy -vatIT come out -svith a new 

 cutter rig. The yachtsmen of Hamilton lately held a debate on 

 the question of cutter vs. sloop, in -which the cutter side was -vic- 

 torious, and their claims for safety, more comfort, and equal, if 

 not superior speed, were allowed. 



ECLIPSE Y. C.-Offlcers for 1887: Commodore, Peter Krumlich; 

 Vice-Commodore, D. Shay; Rear-Commodore, T. J. Hume; Secre- 

 tary, E. A. Dunham; Financial Secretary, W. H. Houghton; 

 Measurer, James Gorton; Steward, Herbert Smith; Sergeant-at^ 

 Arms, S. McManus; Regatta Committee. Fred Hammer, Joseph 

 Stroebel, George Mackenzie, E. B. McManus and Lewis McGowam 



LARCHMONT Y. C.-A sp.icial meeting of the Larchmont Y, 

 C. was held on Jan. 6, at which it was decided to purchase tlie 

 Carver estate, near the cluD grounds at Larchmont, the price 

 bring §100,000. The now property will be improved to adapt it to 

 the demands of the club. 



THE PROPOSED OCEAN RACE.-No further action has been 

 taken as yet by the Royal Thames Y. C. in regai-d to theu- offer of 

 a cup. Mr. Bush's proposal for a race has excited some talk 

 among the schooner men, bnt no one has yet come forward to join 

 him. 



A NAME FOR A CUP DEFENDER.— The name Goat has been 

 suggested for oue of the new yachts soon to be built, as that use- 

 ful and picturesque animal is accustomed to swallow Thistles. 



NAMOUNA.— Mr. Bennett's steam yacht is to be at Marsoillos 

 by Jan, 15, where her owner will join her for a cruise on the Afri- 

 can coast. 



MARION AVE2SrTW0RTH.-This schooner, belongiug to tl*6 

 estate of Mr. Thos. W. Pierce, has been ptirchased by iVlr. Lucius 

 H. Smith, of New York. 



THE SALVATION NAVY.-The British schooner Vestal. 

 80x15ft., has been purchased by the Salvation Army for a cruiss 

 in the North Sea. 



STELLA, steam yacht, of New York, arrived at Charleston Jan, 

 4. "Nessmuk," so well known to all our readers, is a guest on 

 board, 



THE CRUISE OF THE BRUNHILDE.-Mr. J. J, Phelps's 

 schooner has arrived at Valparaiso, Chili, fram San Francisco, 



C. G. GREENE, steam yacht, has been sold by Messrs. Field & 

 Young to go to Bermuda. She will fit out at Philadelphia. 



NIRVANA.— Gen, Perkins's schooner has left New York for 

 Nassau, N, P.. her owner going by steamer to join her. 



PILGRIM.— The statement of the sale of Dr. Winslow's Pilgrim 

 was incorrect, as she is still for sale. 



^mwen to ^arresfiandm(S* 



■ No Notice Taken of Anonymous Correspondents. 



Dell, Sauk Centre, Minn.— A white partridge was shot near 

 this town last fall; is not this an uncommon bird? Ans. Albinoes 

 cannot be said to bo common among any birds. The FoRESi' and 

 Stream has contained records of several albino grouse. 



A. S. R.. Windsor, N. C— I send you a sparrow; will you be kind 

 enough to tell me if it is an English sparrow. 1 claim that it is 

 not, as they have been hei'e for a numoer of years and do not in- 

 crease, and therefore are not English, as the English birds in- 

 crease very rapidly. Ans. The bird is a young male English 

 sparrow (Posset- domcsticus). 



The sparrow is indeed a British institution, and a sup- 

 porter of the British arms too — not in the way that the lion 

 and unicorn may be, but in this, that he follo-n-s our armies 

 into every field. Wherever our conquering camps are 

 pitched there the sparrow takes possession of foreign soiL 

 He flies with our battalions, a.s the eagle did with the 

 legions, perched on our flagstaff and chirps his satisfaction 

 in a full-fed, matter-of-fact sort of way that is strongly na- 

 tional. Zululand now knows him and he is familiar in the 

 Soudan; he is at home among the mulberries in the Canda- 

 har bazaar and out on the peach-dotted plains before Cahul. 

 Nor is it only the commissarictt wagons of war that he fol- 

 lows, for he goes abroad a symbol of civilization and the 

 commercial conquests of peace. Following -'the course of 

 empire westward," theBritish sparrow has invaded Ameilca. 

 Five years ago it had spread as tar as Omaha, on the skirt of 

 the great prairie-s, and sailing round the Horn iu oiu- mer- 

 chant vessels had occixpied Sah Francisco on the Pacific and 

 spread, eastward to Salt Lake City. I looked out for it in my 

 travels and made notes of it, and I found then that there was 

 a strip some thousand miles wide running north and south, 

 which the sparrow had not crossed. But by this time he is 

 probably over it, pecking his food in Cheyenne, and travel- 

 ing by tlie Union Pacific across the levels of the Platte. — 

 Corre.sponclence Ooocl Words. 



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 relieves the windpipe and bronchial tubes of mucus, tones the 

 lungs and the membranes of the throat, and restores to the organs 

 of respiration their natural strength and vigor. PrKE's Tooth- 

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