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pages, explaining everything about it. He wrote back that he never was 

 so interested. He said, "I am coming out next season to see your farm 

 and talk with you." He came out that year and has come out ever}^ year 

 since and brought his companions with him. He came to look at my 

 place. He says, as we came along, "We want to talk of dry farming all 

 the way. I will ask questions and you can answer them." We did 

 so. When we got to the farm I said, "Here is the beginning of my farm." 

 He said, "I would like to have you drive us right through." We turned in 

 along the bottom and drove through the farm. My farm is fenced all 

 around now, and then division fences, so that while I am summer fallow- 

 ing here my stock is running on that to eat up the voluntary grain, which 

 they do and do well. And we rode up through the field, and got up about 

 half way and he says, "I wish you would let me get out." I stopped the 

 team and he got out. He walked into the grain. It took him up about 

 this high. He said, "I never saw the like of this in my life, never, 

 dry farming." He came out again and said, "I wish you would go in 

 there and I will take your picture." He was a shorter man than I am. 

 I walked in and it took me just even here. He said, "The heads on your 

 grain are larger and plumper and nicer than where we have plenty of rain 

 all through the season. How long have you been at this work?" I told him 

 I commenced in 1864. "Well," he says, "you are a wonder. Now, I would 

 like to go into your alfalfa." We drove up into the alfalfa, which was already 

 cut and in the shock, and we walked out into the field, and on the south 

 of that is a row of box elders I planted some 12 or 13 years ago. He 

 said, "I suppose you have plenty of water for them " I said, "No, no 

 water." "Well, how do you manage it?" I said, "When I planted them 

 I dug the holes down till I got the moisture; if I got down to moisture 

 in two feet I stopped; if I had to go three feet I went three feet, and I 

 planted my trees, which were ten feet long and about an inch thick and 

 trimmed all of the limbs off and set them down." My neighbors told me 

 I would kill the trees by digging so deep, but I said, "You see they are 

 not dead yet and never will die; I put them down to moisture and they 

 have been in moisture ever since, and they are doing well." I fenced 

 them in and made a calf pasture, and the calves run around them, and now 

 they are standing about twenty-five feet high. I have plenty of timber 

 now to last me for fire wood. I thought I would tell you about this so 

 that you will all know how to raise timber. Box elders are adapted to 

 this country, and they will grow on dry farms if you put them in right. 



Now as to the question of a man starting to dry farm, I consider 

 this bill that is gotten up by the Hon. Reed Smoot for half a section of 

 land the right thing. A man doesn't want less than 3()0 acres — if he can get 

 it. If he doesn't kilow how to farm but one hundred at a time for the time 

 being, I should advise a man, if he had to buy a dry farm, not to buy less 

 than 300 acres, and if he doesn't know how to manage but one hundred he 

 will learn gradually until finally he can manage the whole thing without 

 trouble. (Applause.) One of our speakers last night from Nephi told 

 us that a man should not have more than a quarter section) that that 



