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THIRD ANNUAL SESSIONS 



A DELEGATE: "I want to know, does not the sub-surface packer 

 make that packed condition more thorough?" 



Sub-Surface Packing. 



MR. BAINER: "It certainly packs under the surface better than the 

 corrugated roller. Because it is made with a narrow rim there isn't as 

 much tearing up of the surface." 



A DELEGATE: "Does not the sub-surface packer leave that con- 

 dition that you want with the mulch loose on top?" 



MR. BAINER: "It does." 



A DELEGATE: "Now does that not check the loss hj wind you re- 

 ferred to?" 



MR. BAINER: "It does to a certain extent, but I don't think you can 

 expect much out of it in the way of checking the wind." 



A DELEGATE: "Does not much depend on the direction in which 

 tne packer is run with reference to the prevailing wind?" 



MR, BAINER: "Yes, it does; you should make it nearly at right 

 angles with the prevailing wind if possible." 



Gumbo Soils. 



MR. HALE, OF SOUTH DAKOTA: "I would like to ask the gentle- 

 man whether he ever experimented any in heavy gumbo soil, such as 

 we have lying between the Black Hills and Missouri river? Whether he 

 ever experimented enough to advise that we use a sub-surface packer? 

 Our soil is very heavy, the heaviest I ever plowed in and I have plowed 

 from Pennsylvania to South Dakota." 



MR. BAINER: "I am not able to answer that question." 



Sub-Surface Packer. 



PROF. JARDINE: "It seems to me the sub-surface packer is mis- 

 understood by a great many farmers over the country just as much as 

 the roller is misunderstood. We probably all admit that the roller at 

 Surface Roller. 



certain times of the year when used with proper discrimination and dis- 

 cretion is a good implement, but by no means would we get up in a con- 

 vention like this and recommiend its universal use. I consider — and my 

 judgment is based on a good deal of experience — that the roller placed 

 in the hands of an ordinary farmer is as much of an enemy to dry farm- 

 ing as is the packer. 

 Damage By Wrong Use of Implements. 



"Time and time again I have visited farms over this dry area when 

 ihe farmer has been driving a packer immediately after the plow. In 

 plowing our land or farm on an extensive scale, it isn't alwaj^s possible 

 to plow exactly at the right time; hence, we are turning over the soil 

 in too moist a condition and also in too dry a condition. I haye seen 

 sub-surface packers balled up with mud, made so by dragging over the 

 soil in too moist a condition. Such treatment of the soil will do more 

 damage once than can be recovered in several years of tillage thereafter. 



