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Mr. Hall: I did not notice any injurious effect on the tree, only on the 

 scale. I think we ought to make the proper application of this or some 

 other preparation every year, and we will make the fruit business a perfect 

 success in California, and we will have to make the thousands of acres 

 which are now being put out profitable to those who have planted them. 

 We have got to work constantly against the ravages of these insects, and 

 if we do so I am confident it will gradually disappear and we will make 

 the fruit industry the greatest industry of this State. 



Mr. Gray: A year ago we had very good reports from those who had 

 used the lime, salt, and sulphur. I want to know if there are any more 

 members of this convention that have tried that, and if so, with what 

 success. 



Dr. Peck: I want to say one word in regard to that, that they are using 

 it constantly in Placer County, and with success. 



Mr. Block: Do you mean this remedy which Mr. Thomas recommended ? 

 Dr. Peck: Yes, sir. 



Mr. Block: What effect does it have upon the fruit? 



Dr. Peck: I have not heard any complaint. We have good crops, and 

 all the fruit we can handle; as to the time, some of them are spraying 

 now. We have no white or black scale. 



Mr. I. H. Thomas: I have used this lime wash for the San Jose scale, 

 and know that it is effectual for that; I would like to know how it is on 

 citrus fruits. 



Dr. Edwin Kimball: I cannot answer to that; we have only the black 

 scale on the olive and other trees around the bay, but I will say that any 

 of those preparations of lime which are given in the reports, I believe are 

 the cheapest and most effective in stamping it out. I know of one pear 

 orchard planted eight or nine years ago, where the trees were obtained 

 from San Jose and infested with the San Jose scale, and they tried petro- 

 leum, potash, and caustic soda, with severe injury to the trees, and the 

 scale survived all those applications. I have found in one particular 

 orchard of about two thousand pear trees, that one application of this lime, 

 sulphur, and salt wash has seemingly thoroughly eradicated it. The trees 

 were trimmed first after the leaves had fallen, and then the orchard was 

 thoroughly sprayed, and the earth removed from around the roots, and the 

 water allowed to run down and penetrate around the tree. In my exper- 

 ience, it is the very cheapest and most effective wash we have for the San 

 Jose scale on deciduous trees; there are a number of different formulas, but 

 they differ but very little, and it kills every scale it comes in contact with, 

 but as we do not have the cottony cushion scale, I cannot speak as to that. 



Mr. Booth, of Roseville, Placer County: I hope you will not have the 

 idea that old Placer is infested with the scale; because it is not. I have 

 a place that has been growing thirty-five years, and have yet to find the 

 first scale of any description; and I hope you will not have the idea that 

 we all have to wash, for I have not begun yet. 



Mr. Peck: Mr. Booth had better begin right off; for three years ago I 

 said that I had not a scale in my orchard, and the next year I had it; 

 and if I had washed it might have saved trouble. 



Mr. Block: Mr. Hall gave an old remedy, somewhat changed. The 

 reason I asked whether it affected the fruit or not was, that I thought it 

 did affect pit fruit. It was a good remedy for pears and apples; and I 

 was glad to hear that Mr. Hall had no difficulty with the pit fruit. Mr. 

 President, if you will allow me, I would make a suggestion that will be of 

 interest to the fruit growers. I see a recommendation is made of Mr. 

 Ongerth's wash. I know in some cases where it has been injurious, unless 



